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LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:10 pm

Speaking in Hanoi after his summit with Mr Kim broke down, Mr Trump said he did not believe the North Korean leader was aware of Otto Warmbier's ordeal.

Mr Trump said: "He tells me he didn't know about it, and I will take him at his word."

Are you fucking kidding me?

Full article.

Very proud of perhaps the greatest golf course anywhere in the world. Also, furthers U.K. relationship!

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 2:31 pm Not on the same level as the ridiculousness with Kim, but please do enjoy the President of the United States promoting his golf course in Scotland. This is normal.

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Very proud of perhaps the greatest golf course anywhere in the world. Also, furthers U.K. relationship!

Holman wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:55 pm Daniel Dale live-blogged Trump's rambling two-hour mostly off-script CPAC speech.

It's a doozy. Thread:

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:12 pm Is there a video posted yet of his speech? Because from the Daniel Dale posts, Trump sounds absolutely insane - like the most deranged and unhinged to- date.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:00 pm 30 minutes in...and I need a double. He's a goddamn carnival barker; that's my takeaway.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:00 pm 30 minutes in...and I need a double. He's a goddamn carnival barker; that's my takeaway.

There is simply no potential candidate in the Democratic Party who wouldn't be absolutely blown off the stage by him. I say this as someone who is neither a Trump fanboy nor a Never Trumper. But he was not simply good, he was Prince-at-the-Super-Bowl great, deftly flinging juvenile taunts at everyone who has ever crossed him, tossing red meat to the Republican faithful, and going sotto voce serious to talk about justice being done for working-class Americans screwed over by global corporations.

In a heavily improvised speech that lasted over two hours, the 72-year-old former (future?) reality TV star hit every greatest hit in his repertoire ("Crooked Hillary," "build the wall," "America is winning again," and more all made appearances) while riffing on everything from the Green New Deal to his own advanced age and weird hair to the wisdom of soldiers over generals. At times, it was like listening to Robin Williams' genie in the Disney movie Aladdin, Howard Stern in his peak years as a radio shock jock, or Don Rickles as an insult comic. When he started making asides, Trump observed, "This is how I got elected, by going off script." Two years into his presidency and he's just getting warmed up.
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None of this is to suggest that this speech wasn't as fact-challenged as almost every utterance Trump has given since announcing his candidacy for the Republican nomination (go to Daniel Dale's Twitter thread for a running count of misstatements of fact). He hammered trade deficits in a way that will remind anyone with an undergrad economics course under their belt that he fundamentally doesn't know what he's talking about. He misrepresented both NAFTA and the new trade bill he crafted with Mexico and Canada, and at the exact moment that hundreds of wearied listeners started leaving the ballroom at The Gaylord Resort and Convention Center, he claimed that not a single person had left their seat.

But the 2020 presidential race is not going to be decided based on which candidate is more tightly moored to reality. It's going to be decided, like these things always are, by the relative health of the economy and the large vision of the future the different candidates put forward. As the economy continues to expand (however anemically compared to historical averages) and he continues to avoid credible charges of impeachable offenses, Trump is becoming sunnier and sunnier while the Democrats are painting contemporary America as a late-capitalist hellhole riven by growing racial, ethnic, and other tensions.

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:09 pm I'll be honest, the democratic candidate needs to hire a comedic writer to counter his bullshit.

hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:15 pm I've lost any hope that Trump will lose in 2020. Trump supporters, by and large, are scared and angry; and the only thing the constant news of corruption and idiocy from the White House has done is driven them to become even more hardline in their support due to spite. The divide we had has always been there, but there has never been a leader more willing to use that divide for his own purposes than Trump. He's incapable of bringing Americans together because he instinctively knows that he needs to demonize someone in order to keep scrutiny off himself.

He's here for the long haul, I'm afraid. And even were Satan to decide he could stand the man enough to bring him back home to hell, I have no doubt Ivanka or Jared would climb over his still warm body as fast as they could to get control of his legacy.

hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 4:15 pm I've lost any hope that Trump will lose in 2020. Trump supporters, by and large, are scared and angry; and the only thing the constant news of corruption and idiocy from the White House has done is driven them to become even more hardline in their support due to spite. The divide we had has always been there, but there has never been a leader more willing to use that divide for his own purposes than Trump. He's incapable of bringing Americans together because he instinctively knows that he needs to demonize someone in order to keep scrutiny off himself.

He's here for the long haul, I'm afraid. And even were Satan to decide he could stand the man enough to bring him back home to hell, I have no doubt Ivanka or Jared would climb over his still warm body as fast as they could to get control of his legacy.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:09 pm In the same way that people voice their hatred of Nickleback in polite company, but the band has actually sold 50+ million albums worldwide.

Trent Steel wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:10 pm

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:09 pm In the same way that people voice their hatred of Nickleback in polite company, but the band has actually sold 50+ million albums worldwide.

Nickleback is off the hook now that Imagine Dragons are the world's most hated band.

For the Democrats to interview in open hearings a convicted liar & fraudster, at the same time as the very important Nuclear Summit with North Korea, is perhaps a new low in American politics and may have contributed to the “walk.” Never done when a president is overseas. Shame!

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:38 pm President Bonespurs had his fee fees hurt by what Cohen was saying, so he had to leave North Korea. I think that's the message here.

For the Democrats to interview in open hearings a convicted liar & fraudster, at the same time as the very important Nuclear Summit with North Korea, is perhaps a new low in American politics and may have contributed to the “walk.” Never done when a president is overseas. Shame!

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 5:09 pm I'm with Hepcat. My gut feeling is that there are still people willing to publicly display their support for Trump (not as many as there were in 2015) but there are now more people that support him in private - and they'll vote accordingly.

In the same way that people voice their hatred of Nickleback in polite company, but the band has actually sold 50+ million albums worldwide.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:58 pm Did someone fix the gerrymandering issue and I missed it?

$iljanus wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:04 am

Ewwwwww! I feel so gross just looking at this picture. WHY IS HE GROPING AMERICA!

$iljanus wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 1:04 am

Ewwwwww! I feel so gross just looking at this picture. WHY IS HE GROPING AMERICA!

The flag should never touch anything beneath it