Re: The Trump Presidency Thread
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:21 pm
I learned in college backs in the 90s that conservative student groups are whiny little snowflakes. They appear to have only doubled down on the bullshit since then.
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
Eh? They invite a speaker, campus loses its mind, administration shuts it down, conservatives complain (and rightly so). That doesn't make them whiny or snowflakes.
This is normal."A senior administration official with direct knowledge of the meeting described Trump’s stance: 'He doesn’t want another single dollar going to the island.'"
Completely. They are being abused (worse than ignored) and with no representation. If so many of them weren't currently preoccupied with staying alive, I imagine they'd be in the streets en mass.
President Trump’s Twitter habits are up for argument Tuesday morning, as federal judges consider whether he and other elected officials can block critical voices from their social media accounts.
Justice Department lawyers, defending the president, say the @realDonaldTrump account is Trump’s personal platform to share his views, not an extension of the federal government. The president, they say, can choose to silence followers “he does not wish to hear” without violating the First Amendment.
The Trump administration is appealing a District Court judge’s ruling from May siding with seven individuals blocked on Twitter after they posted comments critical of the president and his policies. Judge Naomi Buchwald of the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York said the comment threads attached to Trump’s tweets, open to anyone without restrictions, are a public forum. Blocking individuals from those interactive spaces because of their views, she said, is unconstitutional.
The Supreme Court has not directly addressed how the law applies to expanding digital spaces for public debate, and the case involving the president’s Twitter account is a high-profile legal test.
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Among the Twitter users blocked by Trump and expected to attend the hearing Tuesday at the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit are a D.C. writer and legal analyst; a University of Maryland professor; a surgery resident from Nashville and a comedy writer from New York. They are represented by the Knight First Amendment Institute at Columbia University.
It's an attempt to drive them away, plain and simple.Kurth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:12 amCompletely. They are being abused (worse than ignored) and with no representation. If so many of them weren't currently preoccupied with staying alive, I imagine they'd be in the streets en mass.
Seriously, I cannot imagine. To be stuck in a situation where you are relying on the government of the United States for critical services. You are subject to its laws and policies. Yet you have no representation within that government. WTF?
Is it likely to drive them away, though? Emotionally that makes sense. But logically if they become independent they have even less claim to U.S. support, whereas if they became a state a lot of this would become automatic (and they would have federal representation). Plus I imagine that statehood would be more of a direct FU to Trump.Holman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:22 amIt's an attempt to drive them away, plain and simple.Kurth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:12 amCompletely. They are being abused (worse than ignored) and with no representation. If so many of them weren't currently preoccupied with staying alive, I imagine they'd be in the streets en mass.
Seriously, I cannot imagine. To be stuck in a situation where you are relying on the government of the United States for critical services. You are subject to its laws and policies. Yet you have no representation within that government. WTF?
Trump is a lifelong racist from NYC. It's not hard to imagine his feelings about Puerto Ricans.
I dunno.El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:29 am
Is it likely to drive them away, though? Emotionally that makes sense. But logically if they become independent they have even less claim to U.S. support, whereas if they became a state a lot of this would become automatic (and they would have federal representation). Plus I imagine that statehood would be more of a direct FU to Trump.
The plurality has supported continued Commonwealth status, I think. The last referendum actually voted for statehood, although the pro-independence people boycotted the last referendum. That also complicates assessing public opinion on the island, although I would assume that if pro-independence people thought that they were likely to win the vote they wouldn't have boycotted.Holman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:36 amI dunno.El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:29 am
Is it likely to drive them away, though? Emotionally that makes sense. But logically if they become independent they have even less claim to U.S. support, whereas if they became a state a lot of this would become automatic (and they would have federal representation). Plus I imagine that statehood would be more of a direct FU to Trump.
I seem to recall that PR rejects statehood whenever it comes to a referendum. I don't know if there's an independence movement of any size.
The main point, of course, is that Trump hates brown people, especially brown people who criticize or embarrass him.
tRump is a Jet all the way.Holman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:22 amIt's an attempt to drive them away, plain and simple.Kurth wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2019 11:12 amCompletely. They are being abused (worse than ignored) and with no representation. If so many of them weren't currently preoccupied with staying alive, I imagine they'd be in the streets en mass.
Seriously, I cannot imagine. To be stuck in a situation where you are relying on the government of the United States for critical services. You are subject to its laws and policies. Yet you have no representation within that government. WTF?
Trump is a lifelong racist from NYC. It's not hard to imagine his feelings about Puerto Ricans.
U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry has approved six secret authorizations by companies to sell nuclear power technology and assistance to Saudi Arabia, according to a copy of a document seen by Reuters on Wednesday.
The Trump administration has quietly pursued a wider deal on sharing U.S. nuclear power technology with Saudi Arabia, which aims to build at least two nuclear power plants. Several countries including the United States, South Korea and Russia are in competition for that deal, and the winners are expected to be announced later this year by Saudi Arabia.
What could go wrong?Skinypupy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:29 am Let's pretend for a moment that Obama did this and think of what the reaction would have been from literally EVERY conservative, shall we?
U.S. approved secret nuclear power work for Saudi Arabia
U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry has approved six secret authorizations by companies to sell nuclear power technology and assistance to Saudi Arabia, according to a copy of a document seen by Reuters on Wednesday.
The Trump administration has quietly pursued a wider deal on sharing U.S. nuclear power technology with Saudi Arabia, which aims to build at least two nuclear power plants. Several countries including the United States, South Korea and Russia are in competition for that deal, and the winners are expected to be announced later this year by Saudi Arabia.
Are we so far down the road to Shitsville that this will even register a blip in the public consciousness?Skinypupy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 28, 2019 11:29 am Let's pretend for a moment that Obama did this and think of what the reaction would have been from literally EVERY conservative, shall we?
U.S. approved secret nuclear power work for Saudi Arabia
U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry has approved six secret authorizations by companies to sell nuclear power technology and assistance to Saudi Arabia, according to a copy of a document seen by Reuters on Wednesday.
The Trump administration has quietly pursued a wider deal on sharing U.S. nuclear power technology with Saudi Arabia, which aims to build at least two nuclear power plants. Several countries including the United States, South Korea and Russia are in competition for that deal, and the winners are expected to be announced later this year by Saudi Arabia.
Even better, every Trump budget has massively cut this program, and each year Congress has ignored him and funded it.
Trump's Great Lakes whoppers. Just in case anyone here is keeping score.
Trump tweeted, "In honor of his past service to our Country, Navy Seal #EddieGallagher will soon be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits his day in court. Process should move quickly!
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Gallagher has been charged with various violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice while deployed to Mosul, Iraq, in 2017. He has been accused of stabbing and murdering a wounded person, shooting at noncombatants and posing for a photo and performing his re-enlistment ceremony next to a dead body.
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Several dozen members of Congress, led by South Carolina Republican Rep. Ralph Norman, have been pushing to move Gallagher as he awaits trial in May.
Norman said Friday on Twitter he had spoken with Trump about moving Gallagher and that it was "appropriate that he be treated as a decorated soldier who still has the presumption of innocence." Austin Livingston, a spokesman for Norman, said he did not have any details about the timing of Gallagher's relocation and said the congressman was not taking a position on Gallagher's guilt or innocence.
Or those stuck under a bridge in El Paso.
But Schumer wrote an op-ed this weekend saying there was still $20B sitting unspent from an authorization 18 months ago.The federal government has spent $6 billion on disaster relief efforts since Hurricane Maria devastated the island last year, according to FEMA. The federal government is estimated to spend more than $55 billion on Maria’s recovery, with Congress preparing to pass new spending bills in December.
This story from Oct, 2017 says that $36.5B was authorized, but it included refunding a bunch of other programs, not just help for Puerto Rico.ABC News wrote:Over the weekend, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer penned an op-ed in The New York Daily News, saying the Trump administration "has yet to disperse nearly $20 billion in long-term recovery and mitigation funds for Puerto Rico, more than a year after they were approved by Congress and a year-and-a-half after the historic hurricanes made landfall."
55B+36.5B = $91B, but it sure didn't all go to Puerto Rico and there is apparently questions of how much has actually been distributed.President Donald Trump signed a $36.5 billion emergency aid measure on Thursday to refill disaster accounts, provide a cash infusion to Puerto Rico and bail out the federal flood insurance program.
The president signed the bill after the Senate sent him the measure earlier this week to help Florida, Texas and Puerto Rico after a devastating string of hurricanes. The funding will also bolster Western states dealing with massive wildfires.
To date, Congress has approved more than $50 billion in disaster aid this fall but more money will be needed. The states and Puerto Rico continue to assess the damage from an onslaught of damaging storms.
The measure provides $18.7 billion to replenish the Federal Emergency Management Agency's accounts, and $16 billion to allow the flood insurance program to keep paying claims.
Led by the Florida and Texas delegations, Congress will be pressed for additional funding to help homeowners without flood insurance rebuild and to cover damage to water and navigation projects, crops, public buildings and infrastructure.
But White House budget director Mick Mulvaney said earlier this week the next request for disaster aid, expected to cost tens of billions of dollars, should be paired with cuts to other government programs to finance the money.
The current measure would permit FEMA to allocate up to $5 billion to assist Puerto Rico's central government and various municipalities dealing with a cash crisis.
These tweets -- Part 1 and Part 2 -- are so over the top. I know he controls his own twitter account, but how can his advisors let him put stuff like this out? It's like the Emperor is going out and telling the world, point blank, "Look . . . I have no clothes!!!" This shit is just moronic.
Anti-intellectualism. He talks like "us." I'm related to the people that elected him. They love it.Kurth wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:54 am And it's bad enough the substance is wrong/evil/racist. I can't get past his writing: "Puerto Rico got 91 Billion Dollars for the hurricane, more money than has ever been gotten for a hurricane before". I mean, I know this is twitter, but "more money than has ever been gotten"??? It's just embarrassing that this guy is the elected leader of the free world. Fucking mortifying.
White supremacists/nationalists that didn't think the act was the real deal the first time around but are on board now? Brett Kavanaugh fans? Florida felons that weren't able to before? But no, I can't imagine he has expanded his base in any meaningful way.
Don't discount idiot teenagers who have lived on 4chan or /r/the_donald for their high school years. I mean it'll probably be in the hundreds but surely not zero.
Yeah I’m sure there will be some young people who are old enough to vote now but weren’t in 2016 that will vote Trump.malchior wrote:Don't discount idiot teenagers who have lived on 4chan or /r/the_donald for their high school years. I mean it'll probably be in the hundreds but surely not zero.