Octopus Overlords

Vive La France

Rip wrote:Might as well have a thread for the next big win.

Whoopsie. Not even close, thank goodness.

The Austrians, Dutch, and French have all now rejected the far-right candidate in their elections. Perhaps Trump was a wake up call to these nations, though the fact that these candidates are legit contenders means that we can't assume the tide has completely turned. Still, a 30 point trouncing today is a nice relief.

A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.

I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.

Holman wrote:A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.

I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.

The mainstream right-leaning party in France had enough sense to reject Le Pen. Here, the GOP embraced Trump and adopted Trumpism as the platform of the Republican Party. I don't know how they retreat from that now, at least until it starts costing them elections. We'll see if that happens.

Captain Caveman wrote:

Holman wrote:A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.

I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.

The mainstream right-leaning party in France had enough sense to reject Le Pen. Here, the GOP embraced Trump and adopted Trumpism as the platform of the Republican Party. I don't know how they retreat from that now, at least until it starts costing them elections. We'll see if that happens.

No evangellically motivated tribal hate towards moderates does help.

Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.

gbasden wrote:Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.

Keep on drinking

gbasden wrote:Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.

em2nought wrote:
Keep on drinking

You're just trying to make Putin feel better after he wasted all that money, aren't you.

em2nought wrote:
Keep on drinking

And I'm certain you think it's all just another inexplicable coincidence that the candidate most hostile to Russia's interest just happened to get hacked. P. T. Barnum would be proud of you!

At this point none of that matters.

The only thing that does is the number and severity of terror attacks under his watch.

That will determine if his stay in power lasts.

I predict France will become even more of a powder keg than it has been, we shall see.

Putin thanks you for trying to change the discussion.

It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.



President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.

Zarathud wrote:President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.

I believe Dubbya was referring to the lifestyle of fat cats in Washington D.C. not changing, and he was correct.

If anything, corruption has become even more common place in Washington with the Mangerine in power.

Thanks Putin!

em2nought wrote:

Zarathud wrote:President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.

I believe Dubbya was referring to the lifestyle of fat cats in Washington D.C. not changing, and he was correct.

Zarathud wrote:It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.



President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.

While I agree that his sentiment was better the Patriot act proved it a lie. Our way of life changed substantially.

Trump just replaced it with nepotism (Ivanka/Jared), direct sales of government access (Mar a Lago/Kushner family visa sales) and direct control of government by billionaires, oil industry and Wall Street. He's upgraded to even fatter cats--and Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan seem pretty comfortable too.

But that has nothing to do with the French being on the front lines of fighting Russian and terrorist influence while maintaining a multicultural democracy. They didn't surrender -- but America did.

Zarathud wrote:It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.



President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.

What? Did they put Macron in office? I am outraged, outraged I tell you.

You realize that Macron's was the victim of an email hack, just like Hillary Clinton was (an hour after the release of the infamous Trump p@%#y grabbing tape, oddly enough), right? Putin has favorites. Macron is not one of them. Neither was Hillary. He likes candidates who he feels might weaken NATO and destabilize countries/regions he sees as threats. So he seeks to embarrass and damage them via these methods.

Congratulations, Comrade! You serve a new master...and you're probably not even aware of it.

Sorry, I can't get too worked up by hackers exposing people's dirty laundry.

Also not convinced Putin is behind it. There are tons of hacking(and government) groups that enjoying doing these things.

So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.

But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!

You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?

Rip wrote:Sorry, I can't get too worked up by hackers exposing people's dirty laundry.

You were so "not worked up" that you posted links to alt-right propaganda about fake news dirty laundry within 36 hours.

The forensic evidence proves what you deny. Bury your head in the sand, but your blind lies are Hurting America.

Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.

But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!

You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?

Proven to be fakes? Source?

The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.

http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear

Dude. "animeright.news"? Your number one source for up-to-date legitimate tentacle rape news? AWESOME!

Rip's already got his Russian uniform picked out. Quit raining on his parade!

I could link straight to 4chan if you prefer.

Or you could look to reputable news sites for your information instead of rabid alt-right sites and porn boards.

But hey, whatever tells you what you want to hear, amirite?

NickAragua wrote:Dude. "animeright.news"? Your number one source for up-to-date legitimate tentacle rape news? AWESOME!

When you're a star, they let you tentacle rape them.

What happens between two sentient beings with assorted appendages is their own business.

Plus, I mean - "news" is right there in the URL. How much more legitimate can you get?

Macron Won, But The French Polls Were Way Off

Emmanuel Macron’s 32-percentage-point victory in France’s presidential election runoff may end up being touted as a triumph for French pollsters, who consistently gave him a huge advantage. But it shouldn’t be. The polls leading up to the contest between the centrist Macron and his far-right opponent were the least predictive in French history, underestimating Macron’s support, rather than Marine Le Pen’s, to the surprise of some.

Rip wrote:

Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.

But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!

You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?

Proven to be fakes? Source?

The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.

http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear

Here's an article from France24, a genuine news source, which details the release of the docs and the rumor-mongering around them.

Macron's campaign has launched a highly public lawsuit, which seems like the wrong thing to do if you've got easily verifiable bank accounts (complete with alleged docs and account numbers) you're trying to keep hidden.

I'll continue watching the story to see what truths come out. In fact I can think of other public figures whose tax information deserves very close inspection. Can't you?

Come on man, animeright.news is far more credible. I know, I saw a video by a guy who runs an Inuyasha fan blog on myspace!

Their recreation of the Iran nuclear deal using characters from Ranma 1/2 was both thought provoking and funny.

I'm still pulling for Ahmadinejad to win Dubya's heart.

Holman wrote:

Rip wrote:

Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.

But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!

You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?

Proven to be fakes? Source?

The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.

http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear

Here's an article from France24, a genuine news source, which details the release of the docs and the rumor-mongering around them.

Macron's campaign has launched a highly public lawsuit, which seems like the wrong thing to do if you've got easily verifiable bank accounts (complete with alleged docs and account numbers) you're trying to keep hidden.

I'll continue watching the story to see what truths come out. In fact I can think of other public figures whose tax information deserves very close inspection. Can't you?

All of the debunking in that article come down to the pdf having some blurred images. Which I say again isn't an issue now that image scans are out and they DO NOT have the blurs in question. The only thing they use beyond that to "debunk" is badmouthing the source.

Far too much bunk in the debunking.

So nothing from you about whether Russian interference in western elections is bad?

Or are you sticking to the "180kg guy in Marseille" version?

Sure it is bad but it isn't new or very effective.

Rip wrote:Sure it is bad but it isn't new or very effective.

It isn't new, but why do you say it isn't effective?