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http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
For the question about which image went with which inauguration, 41 percent of Trump supporters gave the wrong answer; that’s significantly more than the wrong answers given by 8 percent of Clinton voters and 21 percent of those who did not vote.
But what’s even more noteworthy is that 15 percent of people who voted for Trump told us that more people were in the image on the left — the photo from Trump’s inauguration — than the picture on the right. We got that answer from only 2 percent of Clinton voters and 3 percent of nonvoters.
Even when the photographic evidence was directly in front of them and the question was straightforward, one in seven Trump supporters gave the clearly false answer.
But with the POTUS deciding to go after illegal voter fraud 1/25 became a glorious day with the market catapulting to over a 20K DJIA. Leaving little doubt to Trumps ability to send the markets to meteoric highs.LordMortis wrote:The market, noting Obama is on vacation again, loses a full 50% of the gains made post cabinet confirmation this afternoon, forcing a close at a devastating +0.63%, distracted, having never reached its full potential under the current administration. Much fear and trepidation looking at the horizon for what lies ahead in the upcoming morning of 1/25.LordMortis wrote:At a total of +0.80%, they actually managed to double the gains made in this morning already nearly historic rally, surpassing even the boom times of 1/20 that we all so fondly remember.Rip wrote:Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.LordMortis wrote:News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.LordMortis wrote:Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring?
On my Facebook timeline the Trump supporters are claiming the 2017 photo was taken at 7:30am. It is a weird time we live in.Defiant wrote:This is what Trump voters said when asked to compare his inauguration crowd with Obama’s
For the question about which image went with which inauguration, 41 percent of Trump supporters gave the wrong answer; that’s significantly more than the wrong answers given by 8 percent of Clinton voters and 21 percent of those who did not vote.
But what’s even more noteworthy is that 15 percent of people who voted for Trump told us that more people were in the image on the left — the photo from Trump’s inauguration — than the picture on the right. We got that answer from only 2 percent of Clinton voters and 3 percent of nonvoters.
Even when the photographic evidence was directly in front of them and the question was straightforward, one in seven Trump supporters gave the clearly false answer.
Someone shared a great 60 second video that puts this stupid-ass photo "controversy" to rest.Fitzy wrote:On my Facebook timeline the Trump supporters are claiming the 2017 photo was taken at 7:30am. It is a weird time we live in.Defiant wrote:This is what Trump voters said when asked to compare his inauguration crowd with Obama’s
For the question about which image went with which inauguration, 41 percent of Trump supporters gave the wrong answer; that’s significantly more than the wrong answers given by 8 percent of Clinton voters and 21 percent of those who did not vote.
But what’s even more noteworthy is that 15 percent of people who voted for Trump told us that more people were in the image on the left — the photo from Trump’s inauguration — than the picture on the right. We got that answer from only 2 percent of Clinton voters and 3 percent of nonvoters.
Even when the photographic evidence was directly in front of them and the question was straightforward, one in seven Trump supporters gave the clearly false answer.
Just an example of alt-time.Fitzy wrote:On my Facebook timeline the Trump supporters are claiming the 2017 photo was taken at 7:30am. It is a weird time we live in.Defiant wrote:This is what Trump voters said when asked to compare his inauguration crowd with Obama’s
For the question about which image went with which inauguration, 41 percent of Trump supporters gave the wrong answer; that’s significantly more than the wrong answers given by 8 percent of Clinton voters and 21 percent of those who did not vote.
But what’s even more noteworthy is that 15 percent of people who voted for Trump told us that more people were in the image on the left — the photo from Trump’s inauguration — than the picture on the right. We got that answer from only 2 percent of Clinton voters and 3 percent of nonvoters.
Even when the photographic evidence was directly in front of them and the question was straightforward, one in seven Trump supporters gave the clearly false answer.
No time for this today but I would say this was largely based on positive popular reaction to Trump's epic decision to reel in the over reach of the EPA while concurrently remobilizing an oil industry long tangled by federal bureaucracy to begin job creating national infrastructure projects on on DAPL and Keystone.Rip wrote:But with the POTUS deciding to go after illegal voter fraud 1/25 became a glorious day with the market catapulting to over a 20K DJIA. Leaving little doubt to Trumps ability to send the markets to meteoric highs.LordMortis wrote:The market, noting Obama is on vacation again, loses a full 50% of the gains made post cabinet confirmation this afternoon, forcing a close at a devastating +0.63%, distracted, having never reached its full potential under the current administration. Much fear and trepidation looking at the horizon for what lies ahead in the upcoming morning of 1/25.LordMortis wrote:At a total of +0.80%, they actually managed to double the gains made in this morning already nearly historic rally, surpassing even the boom times of 1/20 that we all so fondly remember.Rip wrote:Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.LordMortis wrote:News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.LordMortis wrote:Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring?
Photos can be 'shopped. Which might explain why a couple of the screens show completely different images compared to the others.Grifman wrote:Show them these photos, you can clearly see Trump's face on the video screens which proves they were taken at the time of the speech:
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/ ... ck/514253/
I actually noticed that tooMax Peck wrote:Photos can be 'shopped. Which might explain why a couple of the screens show completely different images compared to the others.Grifman wrote:Show them these photos, you can clearly see Trump's face on the video screens which proves they were taken at the time of the speech:
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/ ... ck/514253/
Trump has been at the very least implying it, especially by saying things such as "we have no country without borders" or such similar nonsense. Why else would he be committing massive amounts to stop a problem that doesn't really exist?Carpet_pissr wrote:Find a quote from him or his spokesturd saying that illegal immigration has skyrocketed or something like that and I'll add it to the list.
*stares at Tweet*Defiant wrote: ...
See, he is capable of saying actual facts.
I think a more accurate question is are there any moderate republicans left that aren't in denial of where their party is. I can't see how there could be.RunningMn9 wrote:Are there moderate Republicans left? You and I might fancy ourselves that way, but the Party clearly has moved away from anything that I recognize as "Republican".
Charlie Baker is trying hard to walk that line. Before Trump took office, Baker was the most popular governor in the US, notable for getting along with our solidly Democratic legislature while insisting on fiscal conservatism. His approval rating has dropped since then.RunningMn9 wrote:Are there moderate Republicans left? You and I might fancy ourselves that way, but the Party clearly has moved away from anything that I recognize as "Republican".
Bill Krystol, Evan McMullin. A few others.LordMortis wrote:I think a more accurate question is are there any moderate republicans left that aren't in denial of where their party is. I can't see how there could be.RunningMn9 wrote:Are there moderate Republicans left? You and I might fancy ourselves that way, but the Party clearly has moved away from anything that I recognize as "Republican".
Derek Smart!!!!!malchior wrote: https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/826145391431266304
Neither of them are moderate Republicans, nor do they represent anything to do with Republican principles pre-Reagan and the rise of conservatism. They are both conservative Republicans.tjg_marantz wrote:Bill Krystol, Evan McMullin. A few others.
At this point, that's the best we can hope for I fear. I'll give you they are not moderate.RunningMn9 wrote:Neither of them are moderate Republicans, nor do they represent anything to do with Republican principles pre-Reagan and the rise of conservatism. They are both conservative Republicans.tjg_marantz wrote:Bill Krystol, Evan McMullin. A few others.
They are however, sane Republicans so I'll give you that.
Hey, look! Also not on the Ban list! Anyone surprised?em2nought wrote:Poor misunderstood individual shot while visiting the Louvre by evil French soldiers
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38863431
Don't hit Li'l Rip with facts. He hates that.Freyland wrote:Hey, look! Also not on the Ban list! Anyone surprised?em2nought wrote:Poor misunderstood individual shot while visiting the Louvre by evil French soldiers
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38863431
If I read further down, will I see a tweet from Cleve Blakemore?tgb wrote:Derek Smart!!!!!malchior wrote: https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/826145391431266304
I would consider Graham a conservative and not a moderate (if more moderate than most Republicans), but I wouldn't characterize him as lockstep with Trump at all, especially compared to the other two(!!)Smoove_B wrote:The internet tells me that examples of moderate Republicans are: former Secretary of State Colin Powell, Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski, South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham (!), former NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (!!), NJ Governor Chris Christie (!!!) and former California Governor and current Trump foil, Arnold Schwarzenegger.
So in summary, no?
Is moderate (by my standards) and not in denial. That's one. I can't speak for Powell or Murkowski. Powell seems moderate enough but he's been quiet.Smoove_B wrote:Arnold Schwarzenegger.
"The campaign is over," Romney said. "I think we come together with hope. And there are encouraging signs on a number of fronts and I’m holding on to those at this stage."
While there have been "some bumps in the road" for Trump, Romney said the new president has stayed true to the commitments he made as a candidate, signing a slew of executive orders on immigration and other issues.
"We're all watching with interest. He’s obviously gotten off to a very strong start in terms of making a series of executive orders and making the changes that he promised during the campaign," Romney said.
Trump is proving wrong those who "wondered whether he would abandon his agenda. He has not. He has pursued it with vigor," Romney said. He added at this point he is hopeful America's interests will be enhanced by the new president.
And so far, Romney said, Trump has appointed "good people" to serve in his administration. He praised the president's choice for the U.S. Supreme Court, 10th Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Neil Gorsuch, as "superb."