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Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Maybe he's talking about the bomb at the Atlanta Olympic games? Oh wait, that wasn't a terrorist attack - it was done by a white guy.
Right but I think we can all agree that we clearly remember hearing Richard Jewell yelling 'Allahu akbar!' at the time.
It was labeled as terrorism according to wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Rudolph
Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American domestic terrorist convicted for a series of anti-abortion and anti-gay-motivated bombings across the southern United States between 1996 and 1998, which killed two people and injured over 120 others.[1]

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Post by Jeff V » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:48 pm

A travel ban to and within Atlanta so would have prevented this terrible incident.

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Post by $iljanus » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:01 pm

Jeff V wrote:A travel ban to and within Atlanta so would have prevented this terrible incident.
The South had a sort of travel ban in place for certain people. Some say that was the cause for eventual burning of Atlanta...
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:02 pm

Was this already covered? Can't keep up with all the bullshit.
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Post by Pyperkub » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:09 pm

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Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Maybe he's talking about the bomb at the Atlanta Olympic games? Oh wait, that wasn't a terrorist attack - it was done by a white guy.
Oh, I'm sure he probably is. However, if he repeats the words "radical Islam" enough times, his supporters won't care/believe that it was actually a home-grown white Christian.
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It's a good day for the Alt-Facts. From Pyperkub:

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Post by Paingod » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:06 am

The stream of bullshit and lies coming out of the White House is so strong, it kind of feels like I'm watching World War Z. It's impossible to escape, and I'm afraid it'll overwhelm everyone in time.

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:06 am

Who is this Jake Tapper dude, and does he actually have some spine, or is it all for show and ratings? I've seen his name come up a few times now regarding pushing back on the bs more than the other news sheep.

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:13 am

LawBeefaroni wrote:Was this already covered? Can't keep up with all the bullshit.
Yeah, sorry, I let the thread down. Honestly cannot keep up...there's way too much. Someone warned me about that early on. Maybe I should just link to Politifact in the first post? :P

Let's just say there are lots of lies...LOTS. Daily. And the biggest liars are loudly criticizing everyone else for lying. It's mind-numbing, which I think is probably the goal. Well played, if so.

Also, speaking of lying liars and the lies they repeat, whither Kelly Ann Conway? Has her desiccated shell (with fully functioning, oversized mouth) been retired to a broom closet in the WH somewhere?

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Post by Zarathud » Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:17 am

There is a great appearance by Jake Tapper on Colbert's Late Show where they talk about meeting on the campaign trail as junior reporters following McCain. He gets what's going on and is doing a pretty decent job standing his ground.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:26 pm

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Touting the first jobs report of Donald Trump’s tenure, White House press secretary Sean Spicer claimed without evidence Friday that the jobs figures “may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.”

Spicer, addressing reporters at the afternoon briefing, did not back up the assertion that previous federal jobs reports were “phony,” as Trump repeatedly said during the campaign without backing up the claim. But Spicer nonetheless confirmed that the president believes the figures are legitimate now that they signal economic growth under his administration.

“In the past, the president has referred to particular job reports as phony or totally fiction,” a reporter asked. “Does the president believe that this jobs report was accurate and a fair way to measure the economy?”

“I talked to the president prior to this, and he said to quote him very clearly,” Spicer said. “They may have been phony in the past, but it’s very real now.”

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:32 pm

And everybody laughed at that in a good-natured way... HA HA HA HA HA HA! Welp, that's Trump, amiright? Oh man, that is rich!

Too bad he's serious you wankers.

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Post by Kraken » Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:58 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:And everybody laughed at that in a good-natured way... HA HA HA HA HA HA! Welp, that's Trump, amiright? Oh man, that is rich!

Too bad he's serious you wankers.
...and probably believes it himself. The man is dazzled by his own brilliance.

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Carpet_pissr wrote:And everybody laughed at that in a good-natured way... HA HA HA HA HA HA! Welp, that's Trump, amiright? Oh man, that is rich!

Too bad he's serious you wankers.
I'm seeing Twitter light up with indignant complaint about the reporters' laughter, but I don't think this is the press being complicit with Trump alt-reality. The initial question wouldn't have been asked that way if there weren't a sense that Trump's past claims were 100% bullshit.

Most of all, notice that no one took Spicer's/Trump's implication and reported it as truth. Spicer's answer is being reported as weird, not definitive.
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Post by tjg_marantz » Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:30 pm

Not sure if it's posted anywhere but Feb 15 and Feb 16 had higher gains. Also saw a media release by some flunky about the great feb 17 numbers next to the press release from last year about how they were too low.

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tjg_marantz wrote:Not sure if it's posted anywhere but Feb 15 and Feb 16 had higher gains. Also saw a media release by some flunky about the great feb 17 numbers next to the press release from last year about how they were too low.
https://twitter.com/samsteinhp/status/8 ... 6737340420
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That's the one! Thanks :)
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Post by hepcat » Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:20 am

Wow, Trump dropped unemployment from 42 percent to 4.7 percent in less than 3 months! :shock:
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Post by tgb » Sat Mar 11, 2017 10:42 am

hepcat wrote:Wow, Trump dropped unemployment from 42 percent to 4.7 percent in less than 3 months! :shock:
He hired everyone who showed up for the inauguration. They are now gainfully employed as voices in his head.
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tgb wrote:Just thought I'd share the t-shirt that arrived the other day.

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Post by RunningMn9 » Sat Mar 11, 2017 5:10 pm

hepcat wrote:Wow, Trump dropped unemployment from 42 percent to 4.7 percent in less than 3 months! :shock:
Without passing any legislation or signing any EOs that actually had anything to do with jobs!

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Post by Jeff V » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:13 am

Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:

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Post by Holman » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:18 am

Mandrake, do you realize that in addition to fluoridating water, why, there are studies underway to fluoridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream? Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream!
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Post by morlac » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:44 am

malchior wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Maybe he's talking about the bomb at the Atlanta Olympic games? Oh wait, that wasn't a terrorist attack - it was done by a white guy.
Right but I think we can all agree that we clearly remember hearing Richard Jewell yelling 'Allahu akbar!' at the time.
Talk about Alt Facts... poor guy is still getting blamed for it.

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Post by morlac » Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:49 am

Jeff V wrote:Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:

Not entirely untrue...


https://www.wired.com/2017/02/smart-tv- ... ttlement/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2 ... t-way-spy/

If it's connected to the net, it can be used to spy.

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Post by LordMortis » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:11 am

Jeff V wrote:Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:
I thought Smart TVs had been demonstrated to not only have the capacity to spy on you, but in fact had been (though not for gubmint)

http://www.snopes.com/2016/02/12/samsun ... vs-spying/

Pretty much anything with a mic and voice recognition records info and stores it somewhere for a period of time. There have been court cases about subpoenas for Alexa data.

http://crimefeed.com/2016/12/alexa-do-y ... of-things/

Laptops left on have had their cameras taken over by botnets...

https://www.howtogeek.com/210921/how-to ... ou-should/

The idea that there is such a thing as a general contemporary privacy when we are nigh constantly surrounded by Internet enabled active electronic recording devices is kind of a happy naivete.

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Post by tgb » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:28 am

Jeff V wrote:Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:
That was part of the same interview, I think.

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Post by Defiant » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:04 pm

tgb wrote:Kellyanne thinks the gubment is spying on you through your microwave.

I never did trust that Redenbacher guy.
Turning microwaves into Cameras?

If there were chewing gum and paper clips involved, I suppose MacGyver could manage to do that...

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LordMortis wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:
I thought Smart TVs had been demonstrated to not only have the capacity to spy on you, but in fact had been (though not for gubmint)

http://www.snopes.com/2016/02/12/samsun ... vs-spying/

Pretty much anything with a mic and voice recognition records info and stores it somewhere for a period of time. There have been court cases about subpoenas for Alexa data.

http://crimefeed.com/2016/12/alexa-do-y ... of-things/

Laptops left on have had their cameras taken over by botnets...

https://www.howtogeek.com/210921/how-to ... ou-should/

The idea that there is such a thing as a general contemporary privacy when we are nigh constantly surrounded by Internet enabled active electronic recording devices is kind of a happy naivete.

Edit, this was a timely thing to show up in my FB feed:

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Enough wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Microwaves, huh? This morning on the Today show she claimed that everyone knows you can be spied on by your TV. :roll:
I thought Smart TVs had been demonstrated to not only have the capacity to spy on you, but in fact had been (though not for gubmint)

http://www.snopes.com/2016/02/12/samsun ... vs-spying/

Pretty much anything with a mic and voice recognition records info and stores it somewhere for a period of time. There have been court cases about subpoenas for Alexa data.

http://crimefeed.com/2016/12/alexa-do-y ... of-things/

Laptops left on have had their cameras taken over by botnets...

https://www.howtogeek.com/210921/how-to ... ou-should/

The idea that there is such a thing as a general contemporary privacy when we are nigh constantly surrounded by Internet enabled active electronic recording devices is kind of a happy naivete.

Edit, this was a timely thing to show up in my FB feed:

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Post by Max Peck » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:05 pm

It doesn't have to be an either/or proposition. When Bannon is finished, you'll have A Brave New World for the exploiters and Nineteen Eighty-Four for the exploitees.
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