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Post by Defiant » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:22 pm

Days after being sworn in, President Trump insisted to congressional leaders invited to a reception at the White House that he would have won the popular vote had it not been for millions of illegal votes, according to people familiar with the meeting.
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Post by Blackhawk » Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:53 pm

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Re: Thread for 'Alternative Facts'

Post by Carpet_pissr » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:01 am

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:04 am

Moliere wrote:Federal Hiring Freeze Announcement
At a press conference today new White House press secretary Sean Spicer stated that the freeze was established because it "counters the dramatic expansion of the federal workforce in recent years." Just one problem: There has not been a dramatic expansion in the federal workforce in recent years. According to the latest Office of Personnel Management, the number of federal civilian employees stands at around 2.7 million, just about where it was in 1966. In fact, civilian federal employment is down from its 1990 peak of just under 3.1 million. Relatively speaking this means that in 1966 there was 1 federal employee per 70 citizens and now there is 1 per 121 citizens.
Dammit. That's going on the list. SLOW DOWN, SPICER YOU DICKBAG, it's just the first week!

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Post by LordMortis » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:17 pm

LordMortis wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring? :)
Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.
News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.

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Post by Jeff V » Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:18 pm

They have to now react to incendiary things they made up during the campaign. Gotta stick with those lies! I mean alternate facts The stupid goobers might catch on otherwise!

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Post by Rip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 3:55 pm

LordMortis wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring? :)
Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.
News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.
Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.

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Post by Blackhawk » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:04 pm

Rip wrote: Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.
That 'some' would be Trump, or those echoing his statement. Tell me, is Trump honest?
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Post by Grifman » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:05 pm

Rip wrote:Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
This definitely belongs in the Alt-Fact thread.
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Post by LordMortis » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:07 pm

Rip wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring? :)
Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.
News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.
Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.
At a total of +0.80%, they actually managed to double the gains made in this morning already nearly historic rally, surpassing even the boom times of 1/20 that we all so fondly remember.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:10 pm

Taking credit for continued economic growth trend that's been ongoing for years? We've been regularly hitting historic highs since November, 2013. Twenty-four of them before this past election day, to be specific. And another six between November 10th and December 13th.

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Post by Rip » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:11 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Taking credit for continued economic growth trend that's been ongoing for years? We've been regularly hitting historic highs since November, 2013. Twenty-four of them before this past election day, to be specific. And another six between November 10th and December 13th.
Keep your facts out of the alt-facts thread.

But just to drag it back on topic that growth has obviously been because Trump won the election. It was just the tremors before the eruption.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:12 pm

Sorry. I didn't realized you had claimed this sandbox.

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Post by geezer » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
This definitely belongs in the Alt-Fact thread.
Rick Perry LOL. Dude got a C in "Feeding Goats" (and apparently a "D" in doing, er.. other things with 'em) :ninja:

Edit: It was actually a D in feeding. The C was in the other stuff :)
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Post by Jeff V » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:15 pm

Hey, don't give Rip a hard time because he does so well in the Alt-Facts thread. After all, he's had years of practice.

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Re: Thread for 'Alternative Facts'

Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:36 pm

geezer wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
This definitely belongs in the Alt-Fact thread.
Rick Perry LOL. Dude got a C in "Feeding Goats" (and apparently a "D" in doing, er.. other things with 'em) :ninja:
a C in Sheep & Angora Goat Production
That is an awfully narrow subject! Also a C in breeding animals? Don't you just have to put a male and female together and let them go at it? It works for horseshoe crabs!

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Post by Unagi » Tue Jan 24, 2017 4:44 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:That is an awfully narrow subject! Also a C in breeding animals? Don't you just have to put a male and female together and let them go at it? It works for horseshoe crabs!
That only works when you are around. You're a natural aphrohorseshoedisiac

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Post by LordMortis » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:12 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Rip wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring? :)
Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.
News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.
Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.
At a total of +0.80%, they actually managed to double the gains made in this morning already nearly historic rally, surpassing even the boom times of 1/20 that we all so fondly remember.
The market, noting Obama is on vacation again, loses a full 50% of the gains made post cabinet confirmation this afternoon, forcing a close at a devastating +0.63%, distracted, having never reached its full potential under the current administration. Much fear and trepidation looking at the horizon for what lies ahead in the upcoming morning of 1/25.

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Post by Jeff V » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:22 pm

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Post by RunningMn9 » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:29 pm

Rip wrote:which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
Literally one human being on planet earth is calling them that. One.
And in banks across the world
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And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
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Make up bags of change
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Post by El Guapo » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:34 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
geezer wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
This definitely belongs in the Alt-Fact thread.
Rick Perry LOL. Dude got a C in "Feeding Goats" (and apparently a "D" in doing, er.. other things with 'em) :ninja:
a C in Sheep & Angora Goat Production
That is an awfully narrow subject! Also a C in breeding animals? Don't you just have to put a male and female together and let them go at it? It works for horseshoe crabs!
Seriously. Any idiot can research animal reproduction related issues.

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Post by Archinerd » Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:44 pm

LordMortis wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
Rip wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
LordMortis wrote:
RunningMn9 wrote:+0.48% is soaring? :)
Then we're having a devastating crash right now, after the market came back down to earth after the great birth 1/20, the US experienced a cataclysmic event of 1/23 seeing them market dip as low as -0.55% or perhaps worse at lowest valley. Even as it struggles to climb, we've not seen lose like this since the last great crash of 1/19.
News of renewed pipelines talks shook the world, lifting the market 0.43%, a level a rarely seen since the soaring of the stock market during Trump's Inauguration speech of 1/20. This meteoric level rise, however, was not enough to counteract the great crash of 1/23 ultimately caused by so called progressive protests around the US during the turbulent time of 1/21.
Miraculously as Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled, began getting confirmed and taking office markets erupted in celebration reaching historic highs.
At a total of +0.80%, they actually managed to double the gains made in this morning already nearly historic rally, surpassing even the boom times of 1/20 that we all so fondly remember.
The market, noting Obama is on vacation again, loses a full 50% of the gains made post cabinet confirmation this afternoon, forcing a close at a devastating +0.63%, distracted, having never reached its full potential under the current administration. Much fear and trepidation looking at the horizon for what lies ahead in the upcoming morning of 1/25.
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Post by Max Peck » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:06 pm

RunningMn9 wrote:
Rip wrote:which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
Literally one human being on planet earth is calling them that. One.
Wait, are you asserting that Conway and Spicer are, in some way, not human beings? Actually, that would... explain... a lot of things... :think:

(Although you're being awfully kind to Trump, unless he is not the one you speak of.)
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:21 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
geezer wrote:
Grifman wrote:
Rip wrote:Trump's cabinet, which some are calling the most intelligent ever assembled
This definitely belongs in the Alt-Fact thread.
Rick Perry LOL. Dude got a C in "Feeding Goats" (and apparently a "D" in doing, er.. other things with 'em) :ninja:
a C in Sheep & Angora Goat Production
That is an awfully narrow subject! Also a C in breeding animals? Don't you just have to put a male and female together and let them go at it? It works for horseshoe crabs!
Seriously. Any idiot can research animal reproduction related issues.
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Post by Max Peck » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:40 pm

None of this comes as a surprise, of course. The Atlantic, for one, called it immediately following the election.

The U.S. Media Is Completely Unprepared to Cover a Trump Presidency
Donald Trump and his surrogates have shown an uncanny ability to lie in the face of objective facts. They will now have the power of the federal government to help them.

Saddam Hussein was allied with al-Qaeda, and helped finance the 9/11 terrorist attacks. The Hussein regime had sought uranium from Niger. Iraq had obtained aluminum tubes to be used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.

All of those assertions turned out to be false. But they echoed throughout the press in the months-long run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, and only after the war turned to disaster did the media engage in soul-searching and self-criticism. And even then, many sought to deflect blame. Judith Miller, the Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times reporter whose front-page story about the aluminum tubes bolstered the case for war in Iraq explained: “My job isn’t to assess the government’s information and be an independent intelligence analyst myself. My job is to tell readers of The New York Times what the government thought about Iraq's arsenal.”

During the 2016 presidential campaign, reporters marveled at the ability of Donald Trump and his surrogates to create an alternate reality in which statements made by the candidate had not been made at all—from his view that global warming is a hoax, to his nonexistent opposition to the Iraq War, to his refusal to say he would concede in the event of a loss, to his remarks about his relationship to Russian strongman Vladimir Putin. These are people who could argue that the sky is green without a blink. They were able to win a presidential election while doing so. Now they will have the entire apparatus of the federal government to bolster their lies, and the mainstream press is woefully unprepared to cover them.
Happiness, comrades, Minitrue will rectify oldthink malquotes doubleplusquick. Given time, alt-facts will simply become goodthink.
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Post by Jeff V » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:10 am

News reported this morning that sales of 1984 have skyrocketed since Sunday.

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:13 am

You mean "News", right?

Obviously fake news. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

As an aside, I think Huxley fits better for our current situation than Orwell (pretty sure we are discussing this in another thread, no?).
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Post by Jeff V » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:20 am

Carpet_pissr wrote:You mean "News", right?

Obviously fake news. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

As an aside, I think Huxley fits better for our current situation than Orwell (pretty sure we are discussing this in another thread, no?).
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Is news about fake news OT in this thread? :think:

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Post by Max Peck » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:30 am

Carpet_pissr wrote:You mean "News", right?

Obviously fake news. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

As an aside, I think Huxley fits better for our current situation than Orwell (pretty sure we are discussing this in another thread, no?).
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Why does it have to be an either/or scenario? I see aspects of both visions unfolding, so there's no reason that we can't have a Huxwellian Dystopia.
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Post by Carpet_pissr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:32 am

In all seriousness, I do think we have reached a point in time in this country, sadly, where someone simply stating "it's being reported in the news" (lowercase n, as in "generic news") can be given no credence whatsoever. Almost all news brands have become tainted by association with left or right agendas, whether that is true or not...the perception is there on both sides.

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Post by Carpet_pissr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:34 am

Max Peck wrote:there's no reason that we can't have a Huxwellian Dystopia.
Sounds awesome! Throw in a little Cthulhu for some overt soul-crushing/mind-fucking chaos and I'm sold on that future!

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Okay, this was pretty good.
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Post by Jeff V » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:04 pm

stessier wrote:Okay, this was pretty good.
I would like to know the name of even one non-fiction book that would be found in his library.

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Post by Max Peck » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:17 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote:
Max Peck wrote:there's no reason that we can't have a Huxwellian Dystopia.
Sounds awesome! Throw in a little Cthulhu for some overt soul-crushing/mind-fucking chaos and I'm sold on that future!
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Post by Carpet_pissr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 12:26 pm

As an admitted non-reader, will he even have a library? Based on what we know of his personality, does a library seem like something he would do as a memorial to his greatness? I think no. Soviet era sized museum - lots of concrete, massive. No books. Printouts or video screens rolling his tweets over the years, and maybe some of the Apprentice episodes.

Lots of busts and statues (of him, obviously!)

A "list of enemies" and how, specifically they were wrong, in a prominent position.

Museum guides will be hot, white, young women (only). Entrance fee will be $1,500K per head, because of course nobody wants poor losers milling about in there...got to keep the place classy!

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Post by Blackhawk » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:04 pm

I've been to several Presidential libraries. All were mostly just museums from the public's view, with storehouses of documents from that President's reign.

So, yeah. What you described, plus a thumb drive.
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Post by Carpet_pissr » Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:09 pm

Interesting. I've never been in one that I can remember. Strange that they are called libraries then. Perhaps it's an alt-fact like "World Series" and "National Guard"? :P

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