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Place your bets ladies and gents.
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I assume this is a poll that us Tapatalkers can’t see. I will manually vote ‘no’.
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Yes, but only if he's still in office by then. I honestly don't think he wants to do the job. However, he also won't willingly let himself be seen as less than a complete success, campaigning is the only part of the thing that he enjoys, and Obama was a two term President, so he'll run again if he can. If he runs, it means that the Dems haven't managed to wrest enough control to force him out. The GOP won't want to risk fragmenting their base by primarying Trump, so I think they back him if he runs. They've proven they're perfectly happy to ignore everything he's doing that they don't like so that he can do the stuff they do like.

Also, if we're in a war by then, they're even more likely to stay in line.
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There's no "we're all going to die before then" option.
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NickAragua wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:04 am There's no "we're all going to die before then" option.
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I think that there are several realistic paths to him not being the nominee in 2020. He could be impeached. He could quit. His health is a serious issue. And he's deeply unpopular, so I don't think it's completely out of the question that he loses in the primary (although that's the least likely scenario, IMO).

Having said all that, I still think he is more likely than not to be the nominee in 2020.
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It's one of those things where I both can't imagine him making it to reelection, but also can't imagine him not making it. My gut is that the answer is "yes". If Trump's going to be removed from office before 2020, that almost necessarily means the democrats took the House in 2018 (which is doable, maybe likely). But even then, and even if the democrats wind up with 51 senate seats (which is plausible but not probable), you'd still need to get 16 Republicans to vote to impeach Trump... still don't see that happening (though it depends on Mueller bombshells drop).

If Trump remains in office, he could plausibly draw a primary opponent (Kasich or Romney being the most likely options) ... but I haven't seen much out of the Republican primary base to think that Kasich or Romney have a great shot at unseating Trump in a primary.
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If he isn't impeached, quits, or shot and he makes it 4 years I think he'll want to be as far away from that 'dump' as he can be.
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:17 am His health is a serious issue.
Mental or other?
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Daehawk wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:21 am If he isn't impeached, quits, or shot and he makes it 4 years I think he'll want to be as far away from that 'dump' as he can be.
Yeah, I don't see him wanting to own who we are 2020. I see him wanting to claim victory and leaving the drumpster fire for the next person, but it's hard to say. Angry arrogance is his fuel and the fuel of his following as well as no small amount of detractors. I'd like to think Mueller and a shift of Congress in 2018 gets us off the hook but I just see it. Mueller's investigation is our only hope but as of today it looks like Trump gets be Reagan. People around him will fall. He will pardon them. The national debt will spin out of control. WallStreet will grow richer. We turn a blind eye to domestic problems. Infrastructure will crumble only there will be no Gorbachev's wall crumbling with it but rather there will be a funnel of assets to Russia where that wall once stood.
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Impeachment is possible, but only if Mueller indicts all the top cronies and names Trump as a co-conspirator. Otherwise, Republicans will hold the line, and Dems will have to settle for thwarting the GOP agenda until 2020.

In 2020 I think Trump will claim victory and go home, especially if Dems are enjoying a wave that looks to end him. "I was the greatest president! I saved the country from Obama! Now I'll give some lesser but still great Republican a chance to continue MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

Trump is a quitter, and refusing to run again sidesteps defeat.
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Carpet_pissr wrote:
msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:17 am His health is a serious issue.
Mental or other?
Both. He’s clearly unhealthy and famously refuses to exercise while continuing to eat a large amount of fast food.

My order on what is most likely to happen:

-Trump is the nominee
-Trumps physical health deteriorates to the point he can no longer serve
-Trump quits and does not run for re-election
-Trump is removed via 25th amendment
-Trump is impeached
-Trump is primaried
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The other thing with Trump's mental health, is that (especially with the Wolff book), the issue is now lodged pretty firmly in the public consciousness. Given that, all it takes is one major public instance of public confusion by Trump (not remembering something basic or confusing two people), and the "is Trump losing it?" talk will kick into another gear. Which I suppose is something else that could wind up drawing a primary challenger. In fact, to some degree a primary challenger could act as a sort of insurance policy if Trump loses it too much over the course of 2019.
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El Guapo wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:00 pm The other thing with Trump's mental health, is that (especially with the Wolff book), the issue is now lodged pretty firmly in the public consciousness. Given that, all it takes is one major public instance of public confusion by Trump (not remembering something basic or confusing two people), and the "is Trump losing it?" talk will kick into another gear. Which I suppose is something else that could wind up drawing a primary challenger. In fact, to some degree a primary challenger could act as a sort of insurance policy if Trump loses it too much over the course of 2019.
We should start a whisper campaign now. "Oh, no - he's another Reagan. Poor Melania..."
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El Guapo wrote:The other thing with Trump's mental health, is that (especially with the Wolff book), the issue is now lodged pretty firmly in the public consciousness. Given that, all it takes is one major public instance of public confusion by Trump (not remembering something basic or confusing two people), and the "is Trump losing it?" talk will kick into another gear. Which I suppose is something else that could wind up drawing a primary challenger. In fact, to some degree a primary challenger could act as a sort of insurance policy if Trump loses it too much over the course of 2019.
Which is what happened with Hilary and her physical health.
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Paingod wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:02 pm
El Guapo wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:00 pm The other thing with Trump's mental health, is that (especially with the Wolff book), the issue is now lodged pretty firmly in the public consciousness. Given that, all it takes is one major public instance of public confusion by Trump (not remembering something basic or confusing two people), and the "is Trump losing it?" talk will kick into another gear. Which I suppose is something else that could wind up drawing a primary challenger. In fact, to some degree a primary challenger could act as a sort of insurance policy if Trump loses it too much over the course of 2019.
We should start a whisper campaign now. "Oh, no - he's another Reagan. Poor Melania..."
FWIW this is one thing that Trump did during the 2016 campaign. His flunkies started talking about Hillary's health and stamina. Then when she got sick during a 9/11 memorial event (apparently she had pneumonia), we got a couple days of "OMG is Hillary's health failing?!" stories from the press, when otherwise it would have been a "Hillary got sick at a 9/11 event today" blip story, if that.
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
Yes, Trump loses in the primary.
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Holman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:56 am Impeachment is possible, but only if Mueller indicts all the top cronies and names Trump as a co-conspirator. Otherwise, Republicans will hold the line, and Dems will have to settle for thwarting the GOP agenda until 2020.

In 2020 I think Trump will claim victory and go home, especially if Dems are enjoying a wave that looks to end him. "I was the greatest president! I saved the country from Obama! Now I'll give some lesser but still great Republican a chance to continue MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

Trump is a quitter, and refusing to run again sidesteps defeat.
This seems likely to me, assuming one of the other exit routes doesn't get him first. If he can anoint a successor (Pence, or maybe Nikki Haley, who is said to be jockeying for the job), then he can just campaign, which he enjoys doing, and throw himself fully into cashing in, which he also enjoys.
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Yeah I'm more leaning towards him not running at all in 2020 to avoid defeat. But it's so hard to tell with that idiot.
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Unless things crash in some way and defeat seems certain, he’s going to run again. He’s already held discussions about setting up a new campaign organization.
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:26 pm
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
Yes, Trump loses in the primary.
Unless things crash in on him, how? His base is the majority of the Republican Party and they worship him.
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There's a lot of time between now, and the 2020 primaries. I expect a lot of Republican officials who are going along with Drumpf now will start re-examining the situation when they get crushed in the 2018 midterms.
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Grifman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:20 pm
msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:26 pm
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
Yes, Trump loses in the primary.
Unless things crash in on him, how? His base is the majority of the Republican Party and they worship him.
I think he was listing those options in order of likelihood that they would happen. Trump losing a primary was least likely to occur.
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Grifman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:19 pm Unless things crash in some way and defeat seems certain, he’s going to run again. He’s already held discussions about setting up a new campaign organization.
He doesn't really need to set up a new campaign, given that he never stopped campaigning in the first place; he registered to run in 2020 back on 20 Jan 2017.
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:56 pm Yeah I'm more leaning towards him not running at all in 2020 to avoid defeat. But it's so hard to tell with that idiot.
Do you think he's capable of thinking he has a chance of losing?
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Grifman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:20 pm
msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:26 pm
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msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
Yes, Trump loses in the primary.
Unless things crash in on him, how? His base is the majority of the Republican Party and they worship him.
Correct - these hypocrites are looking past conduct any of which would have them burning Dem's images in effigy. Plus barring some extreme action you will have to have a person with courage to stand up to a barrage of tweets about how they are disloyal. Good luck with that.

The only opposition he'll likely face as things stand now would be someone principled which pretty much excludes the entire set of Republicans. And they'd have no chance to win so it'd be all about making a point or positioning for 2024. 2020 is Trump's to lose as long as he remains President.
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pr0ner wrote:
Grifman wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 1:20 pm
msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:26 pm
pr0ner wrote:
msteelers wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:57 am -Trump is primaried
By this I assume you mean Trump loses a primary challenge? Because someone's going to challenge him, I'm almost certain of it.
Yes, Trump loses in the primary.
Unless things crash in on him, how? His base is the majority of the Republican Party and they worship him.
I think he was listing those options in order of likelihood that they would happen. Trump losing a primary was least likely to occur.
Correct.
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Trump will be both the Dem and GOP candidate in 2020! Furthermore, he'll ascend to God King and be given THREE scoops of ice cream while everyone else has one. Ivanka will run for Vice President (Tiffany will get a closet to sleep in at the WH finally). And Jared will be named Ambassador to Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Narnia.

Barron will remain in his position as head of national cybersecurity.

Melania will, sadly, be escorted out by security after she hits the cut off age.
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hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:46 pm

Barron will remain in his position as head of national cybersecurity.

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hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 2:46 pm Trump will be both the Dem and GOP candidate in 2020! Furthermore, he'll ascend to God King and be given THREE scoops of ice cream while everyone else has one. Ivanka will run for Vice President (Tiffany will get a closet to sleep in at the WH finally). And Jared will be named Ambassador to Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Narnia.

Barron will remain in his position as head of national cybersecurity.

Melania will, sadly, be escorted out by security after she hits the cut off age.
Pfft. At that point he is going to go full Henry the 8th. I'm working on my ax skills for the application process as I'll probably need a job at that point since all public schooling will have been shut down.
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I'm 95% confident he won't finish out his term, so no.
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YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:20 am I'm 95% confident he won't finish out his term, so no.
I wish I had your confidence.
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GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:39 am
YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:20 am I'm 95% confident he won't finish out his term, so no.
I wish I had your confidence.
As am I. My greatest hope is that the Dems grab enough power in the legislature to create complete gridlock and that he doesn't actually start (or get us involved in any way shape or form - and by us I mean the world not just America) a nuclear war.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:32 am
GreenGoo wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:39 am
YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:20 am I'm 95% confident he won't finish out his term, so no.
I wish I had your confidence.
As am I. My greatest hope is that the Dems grab enough power in the legislature to create complete gridlock and that he doesn't actually start (or get us involved in any way shape or form - and by us I mean the world not just America) a nuclear war.
What caused WW1? Well, there was this arch duke that got assassinated amidst a complex political climate as various countries started to align with each other... It's kind of hard to explain.

What caused WWII? Ok, this one's a bit easier to talk you through.

What caused WWIII? A guy got insecure about his dick on twitter.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:32 am As am I. My greatest hope is that the Dems grab enough power in the legislature to create complete gridlock and that he doesn't actually start (or get us involved in any way shape or form - and by us I mean the world not just America) a nuclear war.
His "big button that works" should start a sequence where multiple monitors start displaying CGI images of various cities he hates sprouting mushroom clouds all while The 1812 Overture plays in the background. One monitor should show a static image of Washington DC. As a finale, a mushroom cloud sprouts with the White House in the foreground, and suddenly the lights go red, a klaxon sounds, and doors to the room are sealed. And remain sealed, with the klaxon still blaring as he slowly starves to death pondering what he thinks he's done.
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The problem is that "cities he hates" are all in America, many of which require zoning permits and have building regulations. And some, of course, just hate white people.
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2018 12:56 pm Yeah I'm more leaning towards him not running at all in 2020 to avoid defeat. But it's so hard to tell with that idiot.
Do you think he's capable of thinking he has a chance of losing?
Not sure at all. Feels right though. Probably wrong.
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