[Poll] Who will be the 2020 Democratic Presidential Nominee?

[LordMortis]

Warren is 68? I had no idea. She seems very healthy and young for 68. I suppose we'll see what 70 brings.

I don't think she'll be the right person for the job 2020 but she's the best from the field I've seen, irrespective of her age. We've got a good 18 plus months for someone to rise up.

I'm a little surprised Shurmer's name is being tossed around. I don't know enough about him but he's been a focal point and not in Pelosi sort of way for over a year now.

[El Guapo]

Warren is 68? I had no idea. She seems very healthy and young for 68. I suppose we'll see what 70 brings.

I don't think she'll be the right person for the job 2020 but she's the best from the field I've seen, irrespective of her age. We've got a good 18 plus months for someone to rise up.

I'm a little surprised Shurmer's name is being tossed around. I don't know enough about him but he's been a focal point and not in Pelosi sort of way for over a year now.

Pretty sure that Pat Shurmer is taking the Giants job.

Also, there is a 0% chance that Chuck Schumer will run for President.

[Moliere]

Warren is 68? I had no idea. She seems very healthy and young for 68.

Must be all those native American genes.

[Kraken]

Warren is 68? I had no idea. She seems very healthy and young for 68.

Must be all those native American genes.

Since you brought this up, I'll link a thorough Boston Globe column on Elizabeth Warren's Native American problem.

The tl;dr version is that while this is of minor concern in state politics, she still needs to lay it to rest definitively if she has presidential ambitions.

[Carpet_pissr]

I can't believe only one other person here is voting for Sanders. He's very likely to run, and he's going to start as the primary front-runner.

It's likely some are voting for who they hope it will be vs who they think it will be.

[El Guapo]

Warren is 68? I had no idea. She seems very healthy and young for 68.

Must be all those native American genes.

Since you brought this up, I'll link a thorough Boston Globe column on Elizabeth Warren's Native American problem.

The tl;dr version is that while this is of minor concern in state politics, she still needs to lay it to rest definitively if she has presidential ambitions.

I don't think that Warren will run. She hasn't given much indication that she really wants to be president. Assuming Sanders runs (and it seems like he does want to run again), then I think she'll elect to stay in the Senate and support his candidacy.

[YellowKing]

I don't like Sanders because the last thing we need in the White House is another angry old white man. And yeah, I know Biden technically fits that category, but at least he has a sense of humor.

[LordMortis]

I can't believe only one other person here is voting for Sanders. He's very likely to run, and he's going to start as the primary front-runner.

It's likely some are voting for who they hope it will be vs who they think it will be.

I think he was the best in horrid field in 2016 (with Kasich being an "I fear he'll cave to the GOP who have become insane and I can't vote for a Republican" distant second) Since then, he's been sliding further and further off the deep end concurrent with his inconsistencies and baggage published under more of a microscope by the GOP. It would take Trump to not have Sanders absolutely crushed in a general election this next cycle and I don't think the Donkey's will take that chance. That said, they were quite arrogant with their persistence in Clinton and her method, so shrug what do I know from stupid? If the dyed in wool blue want a progressive, the should choose a sane progressive, with long history of baggage to cherry pick, probably younger, and ideally female who is known to women's activist groups without actually being poster child for feminism.

[Jeff V]

I don't like Sanders because the last thing we need in the White House is another angry old white man.

If he does, I predict a Ross Perot off-his-nut moment that ends it badly for him. If he wishes to continue advocating for a platform different from the mainstream donkey party, he'd probably be better off taking an advisory role in supporting a candidate that can deliver the same message but be less abrasive in doing so. Someone less angry from too much losing.

[El Guapo]

I'm not a huge Sanders fan (I supported Clinton pretty much throughout the primary), BUT I think people are overstating how angry/crazy/kooky he is. He's just a solid leftist as compared to Clinton's center-leftism. It's not like he wants to socialize vast swaths of American industry or anything.

That said, that that stuff gets raised a lot indicates that Sanders has a perception issue of being crazy, which would definitely be exploited in the election.

[LordMortis]

That said, that that stuff gets raised a lot indicates that Sanders has a perception issue of being crazy, which would definitely be exploited in the election.

He has one on the extreme right. No big deal, socialism is the WASP American Exceptionalismist that cried wolf, but the perception is growing beyond right's base and it's growing because of his own inconsistencies that are being set side by side. His own words are being used against him successfully in McConnell light sort of way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ32qoj ... e=youtu.be

[Kraken]

It's (un)official: Sanders is pulling together his team for '20.

The second potential challenge (after his age) is that the field will also likely be dominated by candidates who have hastily pinched parts of his 2016 platform to appeal to the significantly more progressive electorate his candidacy revealed. Kirsten Gillibrand, Cory Booker, Elizabeth Warren, and Kamala Harris have all signed on to his Medicare for All bill. Initiatives like free college and a $15 minimum wage are now mainstream. It’s plausible that by the time 2020 rolls around, the party’s top-tier candidates may be running campaigns that resemble Sanders’ enough that he could have a hard time differentiating himself. On the other hand, it’s doubtful that voters truly invested in, say, Medicare for All would trust and back a Cory Booker over him. It’s also possible that Sanders will push the bounds of the party again, and commit himself to a set of policies that have been the subject of more and more conversation among progressives, like universal basic income or a job guarantee.

Whatever happens, the mere prospect of a Sanders run could pull many of his potential opponents further left. That’s good news for his supporters, even if he doesn’t jump in himself.

[pr0ner]

You can cross Oprah off the list - she's not interested.

[GreenGoo]

Good.

[Pyperkub]

I really want to say Kamala Harris, but if Biden runs, it's his to lose.

[em2nought]

It's (un)official: Sanders is pulling together his team for '20.

I hate being forced to give the RNC money, thanks Bernie!

[Pyperkub]

It's (un)official: Sanders is pulling together his team for '20.

I hate being forced to give the RNC money, thanks Bernie!

Why would you actually give them money? I don't understand donating money to politicians you have never met - which may just be me.

[Holman]

I really want to say Kamala Harris, but if Biden runs, it's his to lose.

Biden/Harris would be unstoppable.

[Defiant]

Apparently, there are rumors that Kerry is considering running for President again.



At least, I hope it is a joke.

[Holman]

Joe Kennedy is giving the Dem response to Trump's SOTU address. That's usually kind of an audition.

[stimpy]

I certainly hope he has much better presence than Chris Kennedy.

[El Guapo]

Joe Kennedy is giving the Dem response to Trump's SOTU address. That's usually kind of an audition.

Sort of. In the past giving the SOTU response has been kind of a shit gig, because you look small after the President has been speaking in front of Congress and getting (ritualized) standing ovations. I'm not sure that any presidential contenders want to do it anymore.

[Fitzy]

Joe Kennedy is giving the Dem response to Trump's SOTU address. That's usually kind of an audition.

Sort of. In the past giving the SOTU response has been kind of a shit gig, because you look small after the President has been speaking in front of Congress and getting (ritualized) standing ovations. I'm not sure that any presidential contenders want to do it anymore.

Don't the bigger names give their own responses?

[El Guapo]

Joe Kennedy is giving the Dem response to Trump's SOTU address. That's usually kind of an audition.

Sort of. In the past giving the SOTU response has been kind of a shit gig, because you look small after the President has been speaking in front of Congress and getting (ritualized) standing ovations. I'm not sure that any presidential contenders want to do it anymore.

Don't the bigger names give their own responses?

There's usually one "party response to the SOTU" broadcast right after the SOTU. I think lots of individual bigwigs will give responses of one sort or another (though not broadcast remarks, usually).

[Kurth]

Seth Moulton for President!!!

Politico story on Moulton from this summer

Generals Love Him. Top Democrats Despise Him. Can He Be President Anyway?
Seth Moulton, the junior congressman from Massachusetts, has a war record that appeals to voters and makes opponents nervous.

[Kraken]

Moultin has a great resume and talks a good game, as that article makes clear. I don't have a strong opinion of him because he's not my representative. If he becomes my senator -- the solid but dull Markey might be vulnerable in a primary -- then I will have to form one. Likewise if he runs for president. Interesting story, anyway.

[El Guapo]

There's no way that Moulton could be competitive in 2020. I also think there's virtually no chance that he runs.

I feel like the smart move for him is to either run for governor in 2022, or run for the Senate if a seat opens up (like if Warren winds up as president or VP, or Markey retires).

[Kurth]

There's no way that Moulton could be competitive in 2020. I also think there's virtually no chance that he runs.

I feel like the smart move for him is to either run for governor in 2022, or run for the Senate if a seat opens up (like if Warren winds up as president or VP, or Markey retires).

First, I look askance at anyone that says "there's no way" about anything these days!

Second, I think normally, a run for governor would make a lot of sense, but Charlie Baker is really well liked and wouldn't be easy to take down. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Baker run in 2020 either!

The Most Popular Governor in the Country is a Republican from Massachusetts. Yes. Really.

[Kraken]

There's no way that Moulton could be competitive in 2020. I also think there's virtually no chance that he runs.

I feel like the smart move for him is to either run for governor in 2022, or run for the Senate if a seat opens up (like if Warren winds up as president or VP, or Markey retires).

First, I look askance at anyone that says "there's no way" about anything these days!

Second, I think normally, a run for governor would make a lot of sense, but Charlie Baker is really well liked and wouldn't be easy to take down. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Baker run in 2020 either!

The Most Popular Governor in the Country is a Republican from Massachusetts. Yes. Really.

Baker's popularity owes much to the firewall that he built between himself and the national R Party. He hasn't shown any signs of higher ambition and he will not breach that wall.

He does exemplify the vanishing breed of Good Republicans, and his party has no room for those anymore.

[El Guapo]

There's no way that Moulton could be competitive in 2020. I also think there's virtually no chance that he runs.

I feel like the smart move for him is to either run for governor in 2022, or run for the Senate if a seat opens up (like if Warren winds up as president or VP, or Markey retires).

First, I look askance at anyone that says "there's no way" about anything these days!

Second, I think normally, a run for governor would make a lot of sense, but Charlie Baker is really well liked and wouldn't be easy to take down. In all honesty, I wouldn't mind seeing Baker run in 2020 either!

The Most Popular Governor in the Country is a Republican from Massachusetts. Yes. Really.

That's why I said 2022. I assume Baker will get reelected this year, and then leave office in 2022.