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A 16-year-old boy accused of shooting a classmate at a Texas high school on Monday had a history of aggressive actions at school, a fellow student said.

The injured student, a 15-year-old girl, was airlifted to a hospital in Dallas following the shooting inside the cafeteria at Italy High School, which is in the small town of Italy about 40 miles (64 kilometers) south of Dallas. The boy fled after being confronted by a school district official but was later arrested.

Cassie Shook, a 17-year-old junior at the school, told The Associated Press that she was driving up to the building when she saw "the doors fly open and everyone screaming and running out of the building." She said she was angry when she learned who the suspect was because she'd complained about the boy at least twice to school officials, including to a vice principal.
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Shook said she first went to school officials after the boy allegedly made a "hit list" in eighth grade and her name was on it. Then last year, the boy got angry during a class and threw a pair of scissors at her friend and later threw a computer against a wall, she said.
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Shook said police came to talk to the class after the incident. She said the boy was removed from the school but eventually was allowed back.
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Ellis County Sheriff Chuck Edge said during a news conference that the suspect "engaged the victim" and fired several shots from a semi-automatic .380 handgun just before 8 a.m. Edge did not say how many times the victim was shot.

Investigators have said they don't know the relationship between the victim and shooter, or what may have been the shooter's motive.

Edge said the suspect fled when confronted by a school district official but was later arrested by law enforcement on school grounds. Edge said the handgun was recovered at the scene and is in evidence.

At least one person was killed in a shooting Tuesday at a Benton, Kentucky school, according to Gov. Matt Bevin.
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The shooter is in custody, according to Bevin. Kentucky State Police said the scene was secured as of 10:11 a.m.

There are multiple victims, though only one confirmed fatality, according to the KSP.

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 11:49 am Today in Kentucky

There are multiple victims, though only one confirmed fatality, according to the KSP.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:02 pm Should this be "School Shootings?" If it's for all shootings it may get a bit hard to keep track of.

The one in Texas sounds like the school had plenty of warnings.

We could just exclude Chicago to its own thread.

The audio is clear: One of the teens tells the guard he’s not armed, saying of his weapon, “It’s fake! It’s fake!”

“Oh, well,” says the guard. “Mine is real.” He then shoots the robbers.

Gardena police say both of the teens survived the shooting and the guard faces no charges.

EASLEY, S.C. —
Two people were injured after a shooting in Easley on Monday night, Easley police said.

LONDON, Ohio (WSYX/WTTE) — Two people are dead after a late night shooting in Madison County Monday.

The shooting happened on Lamplight Court around 11:30 p.m. London Police said they were dispatched on reports of shots fired at an apartment complex.

Police said they found two men suffering from apparent gunshot wounds outside a Lamplight Court apartment. Police then located another man suffering from an apparent gunshot wound. A fourth man suspected of being involved was reportedly treated at Springfield hospital with gunshot wounds.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:35 pm

Not Chicago:

The audio is clear: One of the teens tells the guard he’s not armed, saying of his weapon, “It’s fake! It’s fake!”

“Oh, well,” says the guard. “Mine is real.” He then shoots the robbers.

Gardena police say both of the teens survived the shooting and the guard faces no charges.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 23, 2018 2:40 pm Possible to change the thread title to "Killings"?

The way it's worded currently makes it seem like guns are some kind of problem, and we all know that dynamite, cars, falling pianos and even common, blunt objects (!) can be used by a motivated criminal to kill someone. Really seems like you are unfairly singling out "guns" (really, I prefer to call them "dangerous tools").

The Meal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Aj22000 (@TheCaptainAidan)
My school is being shot up and I am locked inside. I’m fucking scared right now. (40 m)

The suspect in a deadly high school shooting in Parkland, Florida, is in custody, the Broward County Sheriff's Office said.

A shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Broward caused "numerous" fatalities, Broward County Public Schools Superintendent Robert Runcie said. He did not know the exact number.

The Meal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:42 pm

Aj22000 (@TheCaptainAidan)
My school is being shot up and I am locked inside. I’m fucking scared right now. (40 m)

At least 17 people were killed Wednesday in a high school shooting in Parkland, Florida, Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel said.

The suspect, 19-year-old former student ... is in custody, the sheriff said. The sheriff said he was expelled for unspecified disciplinary reasons. Police are investigating his digital profile, he said. So far, what they've found is "very, very disturbing," Israel said.
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Twelve were killed inside the building and two died outside, he said. One died in the street and two died at the hospital, the sheriff said.

Chaz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:26 pm Vote in November.

Isgrimnur wrote:

Chaz wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:26 pm Vote in November.

For everyone but Texas, vote this summer. We get an early jump in March.

Default wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:49 am Any chance you can register as another party for the primaries and then revert to being independent after the primary?

Sun Sentinel wrote:Twenty years ago, however, the revision commission had a good partial solution and voters agreed. They amended the Constitution to open any primary that would elect the winner for lack of a rival on the November ballot.

However, the Department of State and the courts held that a write-in candidate counts as opposition, even though their name doesn’t appear on the ballot, they never win and they serve no purpose except to close a primary. Now, write-in candidates are commonly used to keep roughly two-thirds of voters from voting in a race. (About 37 percent of Florida voters are Democrats, 35 percent are Republican and 27 percent are unaffiliated, the fastest growing constituency.)

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 am Someone who goes into a school and murders dozens of kids isn't a "gun owner." He is a mass murderer. Conflating the two is exactly why gun owners get all defensive.

Do we have a problem with too many firearms? Yes. But we also have a problem with too many murderous pieces of shit.

A pro-gun person sees the a shooting like this and thinks, "If only there was someone there to take this guy out." An anti-gun person sees this and thinks, "If only there were no guns for this guy to use." And their call for action will probably reflect their initial thoughts. As more details come out, both perspectives may change but that's the initial reaction.


Extreme pro-gun people will think, "Oh, no, this may be a threat to my guns! Quick, write a check to the NRA!" Extreme anti-gun people will think, "Let's use this opportunity to finally ban [x]! Quick, make this incident all about guns!"

And with every shooting more and more people are driven to the extremes on both sides.

Chrisoc13 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:51 am Less access to guns won't hurt. Acting like our gun culture isn't a huge part of the problem (including massive gun ownership) is just putting your head in the sand. Increased mental health resources and coverage is necessary. Decreasing our society's obsession with guns and violence is a necessity. But guns are a problem. It is far too efficient a tool of mass murder that "murderous pieces of shit" have way too much access to. Pretending they are not is getting a bit ridiculous.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 amDo we have a problem with too many firearms? Yes.

Chrisoc13 wrote:Less access to guns won't hurt. Acting like our gun culture isn't a huge part of the problem (including massive gun ownership) is just putting your head in the sand. Increased mental health resources and coverage is necessary. Decreasing our society's obsession with guns and violence is a necessity. But guns are a problem. It is far too efficient a tool of mass murder that "murderous pieces of shit" have way too much access to. Pretending they are not is getting a bit ridiculous.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:12 am There are two things required for every shooting. A gun and a person willing to pull the trigger. You take away either one and you don't have a shooting. Since we can never guarantee to be rid of either, it makes sense work on both of them.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 am Someone who goes into a school and murders dozens of kids isn't a "gun owner." He is a mass murderer. Conflating the two is exactly why gun owners get all defensive.

Do we have a problem with too many firearms? Yes. But we also have a problem with too many murderous pieces of shit.

A pro-gun person sees the a shooting like this and thinks, "If only there was someone there to take this guy out." An anti-gun person sees this and thinks, "If only there were no guns for this guy to use." And their call for action will probably reflect their initial thoughts. As more details come out, both perspectives may change but that's the initial reaction.


Extreme pro-gun people will think, "Oh, no, this may be a threat to my guns! Quick, write a check to the NRA!" Extreme anti-gun people will think, "Let's use this opportunity to finally ban [x]! Quick, make this incident all about guns!"

And with every shooting more and more people are driven to the extremes on both sides.

Exodor wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:23 am I find it difficult to believe that the US has a different media diet or rate of mental health issues and yet we have a dramatically higher rate of gun violence - not just these mass shootings but the daily incidents. According to the linked article our rate of gun violence is eight times higher than Canada's.

What makes the US different from every other western country other than easy access to guns that accounts for the higher rate of gun violence?

Until another reason can be found it seems the answer is right in front of us - our politicians are just too afraid of the gun lobby to do anything about it.

msteelers wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:19 am

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:38 am Someone who goes into a school and murders dozens of kids isn't a "gun owner." He is a mass murderer. Conflating the two is exactly why gun owners get all defensive.

Except many of these mass murderers are gun owners. Some of them, like the Vegas shooter, are enthusiastic gun owners.

Lawbeefaroni wrote:A gun and a person willing to pull the trigger. You take away either one and you don't have a shooting. Since we can never guarantee to be rid of either, it makes sense work on both of them.