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Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:55 pm
by Grifman
NBA exec supports Hong Kong protestors, China protests, NBA backs down, then NBA grows a pair after anger is expressed in the US:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/media/nb ... index.html

Just a few days later, a Hong Kong resident playing in a Hearthstone tournament is banned by Blizzard and all of his winnings are confiscated because he made mention of his support for Hong Kong in a post match interview:

https://www.businessinsider.com/blizzar ... ew-2019-10

Blizzard also cancelled contracts with the two interviewers though there is no evidence that they knew what was going to happen.

Apparently Blizzard hasn't learned from the NBA. At least some people are cancelling their WOW subscriptions because of this, but don't now how many or if it will have an impact.

While I think Trump's trade war is ill planned and ill considered, I would be in favor of penalizing Chinese companies operating in the US if US companies are penalized due to free speech issues.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:00 pm
by El Guapo
Trump is more interested in emulating China in this respect than punishing it.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:20 pm
by El Guapo
Also - the Hearthstone player should hire a lawyer.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:24 pm
by stessier
El Guapo wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:20 pm
Also - the Hearthstone player should hire a lawyer.
Blizzard's terms of service seem to pretty clearly let them do it.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:14 pm
by em2nought
The Communist State of China no longer owns the Port of Long Beach https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/20 ... beach.html

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:29 pm
by Holman
So authoritarianism is bad, right? You'll agree?

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:16 pm
by Toe
stessier wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:24 pm
El Guapo wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:20 pm
Also - the Hearthstone player should hire a lawyer.
Blizzard's terms of service seem to pretty clearly let them do it.
ToS's don't seem to carry a lot of weight in the courts though.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:50 am
by ImLawBoy
Toe wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 10:16 pm
stessier wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:24 pm
El Guapo wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:20 pm
Also - the Hearthstone player should hire a lawyer.
Blizzard's terms of service seem to pretty clearly let them do it.
ToS's don't seem to carry a lot of weight in the courts though.
Contracts of adhesion like click through licenses and terms of service do have a higher burden than a contract negotiated between peers.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:53 am
by Kurth
I love LeBron, but he stepped in it with his tweet taking Morey to task for being “uneducated” for making his statement in support of the Hong Kong protests. Not a good look, Bron. Not a good look.

Re: All things: China

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:13 am
by Isgrimnur
Daryl Morey
- bachelor's degree in computer science
- MBA from the MIT Sloan School of Management
- co-founded the annual MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

LeBron James
- graduated high school
- tried to trademark "Taco Tuesday"

Re: All things: China

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:01 am
by Isgrimnur
A detailed look at the NBA/China timeline:
In the ordinary setting, the commissioner laid out the extraordinary situation, spending 10 to 15 minutes, according to a source present, appearing "vulnerable and transparent" as he detailed the issues and challenges facing the league.

He expressed to the players that the best thing for the league would be for the Nets and Lakers to become ambassadors for the sport, to show a positive front and face the questions that would come from the throng of nearly 200 reporters set to descend upon the hotel in mere hours. One of the league's core values is freedom of expression, Silver said. "It's what you guys stand for." And to not speak, he said, could lead to criticism for staying silent.

Silver opened the floor. James raised his hand.

His question was related to Morey -- and the commissioner's handling of the Rockets' GM. James, to paraphrase, told Silver that he knew that if a player caused the same type of uproar with something he said or tweeted, the player wouldn't be able to skate on it. There would be some type of repercussion. So, James wanted to know, what was Silver going to do about it in Morey's case?

Silver pushed back, reminding the players that the league never doled out discipline when they publicly criticized President Donald Trump. Morey was exercising the same liberty when he challenged China. Regardless of the financial fallout of one versus the other, that's not what should matter. Silver might have disliked the ramifications of Morey's tweet, but he would defend the right to say it.