Researching the table for Q1 2016 employment data puts the civilian employed labor force for HS grad, no college, at 33,599,000, so that would be something on the order of 3.36M at or above the 90th percentile of $80k/year.Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:59 am BLS: Weekly earnings by educational attainment in first quarter 2016
That puts 90th percentile for Men with a HS diploma, no college at $80,288/year.Full-time workers age 25 and older without a high school diploma had median weekly earnings of $494 in the first quarter of 2016. That compares with a median of $679 for high school graduates who never attended college and $782 for workers with some college or an associate degree. Median weekly earnings were $1,155 for workers with a bachelor's degree and $1,435 for workers with an advanced degree—a master’s, professional, or doctoral degree.
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It's almost as if people are the problem.
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You were trained by the military.Rip wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:02 pmI don't have a college degree and have earned over $300K one year. Lack of a college degree != uneducated. I have enough technical certification to line an entire wall with. I know dozenss of people who make $100K or more by themselves and few of them have degrees.GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:43 am Then wtf are they complaining about? Why do they give two shits about washers and dryers being manufactured in America if they are employed and make more than most Americans?
It doesn't make a lick of sense.
Worse, how can low education people make more than the average american, assuming high education people are included in these numbers? Isgrim's reports on employment SHOW that low education is a sure way to less employment.
Honestly Lawbeef, something doesn't add up, but I'm not sure what it is.
How do you make six figures in America without a college education? Obviously I can think of examples, but we're talking whole swathes of people, not just the occasional outlier.
That poll implies that there are $50k (assuming 2 person households) jobs just waiting around for uneducated people to apply to. How is that possible? What fields are they in? If education is not a barrier to a good paying job, WTF is the problem that the GOP base have been complaining about? I don't get it.
http://money.cnn.com/2012/05/10/news/ec ... /index.htm
In any case, the mistake was mine, not the data. Educated means educated. Whether that's college or a series of IT certs or whatever. The people we're talking about are uneducated, presumably, as that's what the poll suggested.
There are uneducated people who make millions of dollars. We're not talking about them. We're talking about enough people to be called a statistic.
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And it's almost never suspect in my mind, because I assume legitimate methodology. If the methodology is broken, then the data is useless, but I would expect a broken poll to only be reported by partisan hacks.
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44!
92% of Democrats are so unimaginative.
92% of Democrats are so unimaginative.
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That estimate of how many republicans make more than $250k is just bizarre.
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I'd say about half of Republicans are Texas Oil Tycoons, so makes sense to me.
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Not quite.
Just FYI, note the date of the poll (March 2015). Not sure how (if?) awareness (from either side) would have changed as we got into the Trump era.
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Wait, 44 is not equal to an obscene scientific notification number?
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44 factorial is equal to an obscene scientific notation number.GreenGoo wrote:Wait, 44 is not equal to an obscene scientific notification number?
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Heh, just goes to show that D-identified people are morons too. Well, except for the crazy religious thing, that's pegged pretty well.
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Asking random people about the statistical breakdown of other groups is a pretty shit way to measure intelligence. Where's the control where they were asked to measure "their own" groups.
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It all depends on your compiler/interpreter. I have yet to see one that would accept a space between the 'not' and 'equals' operators.
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My eyes are fine. Next you're gonna be telling me there's only 1 space after a period. Plus you're just lucky google is smart enough to figure out that the space Meal put in between the 44 and ! was a typo but the one it put in after ! is not.
A little consistency would be nice, google.
A little consistency would be nice, google.
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Meal didn't screenshot his input. That's Google's formatting.
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I intended to use "morons" as a quick-to-type place holder for "people holding misconceptions about other groups of people without bothering to do their own research".
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No, 44! = the number of Trumptard tweets it takes until you get something non-offensive and sensible. It's just that you stand a much better chance waiting for the million monkeys to bang out Shakespeare on their typewriters.
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I'm trying to decide if this tone is more "narcissistic parent" or "abusive boyfriend."Harley-Davidson should stay 100% in America, with the people that got you your success. I’ve done so much for you, and then this. Other companies are coming back where they belong! We won’t forget, and neither will your customers or your now very HAPPY competitors!
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In trumps case, both.Holman wrote:
I'm trying to decide if this tone is more "narcissistic parent" or "abusive boyfriend."Harley-Davidson should stay 100% in America, with the people that got you your success. I’ve done so much for you, and then this. Other companies are coming back where they belong! We won’t forget, and neither will your customers or your now very HAPPY competitors!
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Merkel caves in
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Lol, did bat kid tell you that?
Hopefully you've posted the smiley because you understand you posted an article from a tabloid.
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A trade war? You ain't seen nothin' yet:
President Trump has repeatedly told top White House officials he wants to withdraw the United States from the World Trade Organization, a move that would throw global trade into wild disarray, people involved in the talks tell Axios.
What we're hearing: “He’s [threatened to withdraw] 100 times. It would totally [screw] us as a country,” said a source who’s discussed the subject with Trump. The source added that Trump has frequently told advisers, "We always get fucked by them [the WTO]. I don’t know why we’re in it. The WTO is designed by the rest of the world to screw the United States."
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Idiot. The WTO was designed by the US to make other countries dependent on America and preserve our central role in the world economy.
If anything makes the Republican Party turn on Trump, it will be the economic chaos he causes.
If anything makes the Republican Party turn on Trump, it will be the economic chaos he causes.
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What would be the immediate consequences of withdrawing from the WTO? I assume that we'd lose a lot of reciprocal tariff reductions?
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You'd no longer get the newsletter, for one thing.
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I imagine the immediate consequence would be breaking many trade treaties which rely on the WTO as the mediation function. The shock of that as every supply chain would be affected could cause a market panic. This would be beyond drastic. Luckily it seems Congress would have to agree and I can't imagine they'd want to go down in history as sparking this big a disaster.
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Just another bullet point on the long list of atrocities they are aiding and abetting.
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I could talk about consequences forever on this topic, but here's a quick example of something mundane that could have very big ripple effects wrt trade:
99% of countries rely on certain norms and guidelines set out by the WTO (and the UN Council on Trade), which is the basis of much of our (globally) data regarding transactions, trade information, etc. It greases the wheels of international commerce. It provides the infrastructure for common language regarding all things trade.
If a country does not follow the guidelines, especially a major trading country, it will create havoc for analysts, Wall St., exporters, government agencies trying to negotiate with other countries regarding trade, and a million other things.
It's almost like us deciding "You know what, FUCK the English language. We're going to create an AMERICAN language, still based on the alphabet, but completely new. No one else in the world speaks AMERICAN. It's not related to any form of English at all. Every word is BOINGA.
My company manufactures BOINGAS. We have BOINGA BOINGAS available for export to the following countries: BOINGA BOINGA and North BOINGA. Who wants to buy some BOINGA?
99% of countries rely on certain norms and guidelines set out by the WTO (and the UN Council on Trade), which is the basis of much of our (globally) data regarding transactions, trade information, etc. It greases the wheels of international commerce. It provides the infrastructure for common language regarding all things trade.
If a country does not follow the guidelines, especially a major trading country, it will create havoc for analysts, Wall St., exporters, government agencies trying to negotiate with other countries regarding trade, and a million other things.
It's almost like us deciding "You know what, FUCK the English language. We're going to create an AMERICAN language, still based on the alphabet, but completely new. No one else in the world speaks AMERICAN. It's not related to any form of English at all. Every word is BOINGA.
My company manufactures BOINGAS. We have BOINGA BOINGAS available for export to the following countries: BOINGA BOINGA and North BOINGA. Who wants to buy some BOINGA?
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I always figured the threat to the US would come from carefully orchestrated plans implemented over decades by corporate oligarchs.
Instead, we got Caligula.
Instead, we got Caligula.
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Well, Trump *is* kind of the result of various plans by corporate oligarchs and corporatist dictators.
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There is truth in this. Those inside our borders wanted to elect a corporate Dark Lord. Russia still gave them Caligula.
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What Republican party? I think it's time to let go of the hope that some remnants of the party will step up to save the nation. There's a personality cult made up of a lot of former Republicans and looslely under the former Republican structure. There is no Republican party.
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