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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by pr0ner » Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:59 pm

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...charged... defrauded a bank by using phony tax returns to obtain millions of dollars in loans.
Manafort, Trump, Avenatti. Three have done, two have been charged...
I am sure that is part of why we may never see Trump's tax returns.
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by stessier » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:03 pm

I can't wait for this week's episode of All the President's Lawyers! Last week Avenatti called Ken and yelled at him and nearly every week Ken has to field the question "Is Avenatti a good lawyer?" :D
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Post by pr0ner » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:22 am

36 counts for Avenatti in California!

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Post by Smoove_B » Wed May 22, 2019 4:06 pm

Avenatti charged by the feds with defrauding Stormy Daniels:
Michael Avenatti, the attorney who rocketed to fame through his representation of porn star Stormy Daniels in her battles with President Donald Trump, was charged Wednesday with ripping her off.

Federal prosecutors in New York City say Avenatti used a doctored document to divert about $300,000 that Daniels was supposed to get from a book deal, then used the money for personal and business expenses. Only half of that money was paid back, prosecutors said.

Daniels isn’t named in the court filing, but the details of the case, including the date her book was released, make it clear that she is the client involved.

Avenatti denied the allegations on Twitter.

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Post by Kurth » Thu May 23, 2019 10:22 am

No surprise there. Good riddance. Scumbag from the get go.
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Post by Holman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:49 pm

Respected magazine writer accuses Trump of raping her 23 years ago.
When Carroll meets Donald Trump in Bergdorf Goodman, the encounter starts as a friendly one. Trump recognizes her as “that advice lady”; Carroll recognizes him as “that real-estate tycoon.” Trump tells Carroll that he’s there to buy a gift for “a girl,” and though we don’t learn the identity of this mystery woman, Carroll places the ensuing incident in late 1995 or early 1996, during which time Trump was married to Marla Maples. When Trump asks Carroll to advise him on what to buy, she agrees, and the two eventually make their way to the lingerie section. Trump suggests a lace bodysuit and encourages Carroll to try it on; she, deflecting, jokingly suggests that he try it on instead. After they reach the dressing rooms, events turn violent. In Carroll’s account, Trump shoves her against a wall inside a dressing room, pulls down her tights, and, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.”
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by LawBeefaroni » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:53 pm

He didn't do it. He has a calendar. She's a bitch. He's president, she is just some old writer.

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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by stimpy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm

Holman wrote:
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Respected magazine writer accuses Trump of raping her 23 years ago.
When Carroll meets Donald Trump in Bergdorf Goodman, the encounter starts as a friendly one. Trump recognizes her as “that advice lady”; Carroll recognizes him as “that real-estate tycoon.” Trump tells Carroll that he’s there to buy a gift for “a girl,” and though we don’t learn the identity of this mystery woman, Carroll places the ensuing incident in late 1995 or early 1996, during which time Trump was married to Marla Maples. When Trump asks Carroll to advise him on what to buy, she agrees, and the two eventually make their way to the lingerie section. Trump suggests a lace bodysuit and encourages Carroll to try it on; she, deflecting, jokingly suggests that he try it on instead. After they reach the dressing rooms, events turn violent. In Carroll’s account, Trump shoves her against a wall inside a dressing room, pulls down her tights, and, “forcing his fingers around my private area, thrusts his penis halfway — or completely, I’m not certain — inside me.”
Wow....her recollection is so crystal clear and full of detail. She can even pinpoint the incident within a 6 month period!!!!
I do appreciate the not so subtle dig at his junk though.....makes her story all that more believable......
It makes my dookie twinkle.

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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by LordMortis » Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:15 pm

stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm
Wow....her recollection is so crystal clear and full of detail. She can even pinpoint the incident within a 6 month period!!!!
I do appreciate the not so subtle dig at his junk though.....makes her story all that more believable......
I don't know her story or that kind of trauma but what you read as six months, I read as probably two months or less. late one year, early the next suggest December or January, February at the latest. I read her saying it was winter and that's about how well my sense for time goes as well. For my memory that's not an unreasonable jump, even with horrible events. Though I have no frame of reference for physical abuse.

I can't but feel I would also make all my statements in to attacks if I was violated.

None of that means her story is true but nothing there leads me to doubt either. Especially given the consistency with POtuS own words and arrogance.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321

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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by stimpy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:16 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:15 pm
stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm
Wow....her recollection is so crystal clear and full of detail. She can even pinpoint the incident within a 6 month period!!!!
I do appreciate the not so subtle dig at his junk though.....makes her story all that more believable......
I don't know her story or that kind of trauma but what you read as six months, I read as probably two months or less. late one year, early the next suggest December or January, February at the latest. I read her saying it was winter and that's about how well my sense for time goes as well. For my memory that's not an unreasonable jump, even with horrible events. Though I have no frame of reference for physical abuse.

I can't but feel I would also make all my statements in to attacks if I was violated.

None of that means her story is true but nothing there leads me to doubt either. Especially given the consistency with POtuS own words and arrogance.

https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321
Well...when you wait 23 years to say anything, details tend to get muddy.
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by Holman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:19 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:15 pm
stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm
Wow....her recollection is so crystal clear and full of detail. She can even pinpoint the incident within a 6 month period!!!!
I do appreciate the not so subtle dig at his junk though.....makes her story all that more believable......
I don't know her story or that kind of trauma but what you read as six months, I read as probably two months or less. late one year, early the next suggest December or January, February at the latest. I read her saying it was winter and that's about how well my sense for time goes as well. For my memory that's not an unreasonable jump, even with horrible events. Though I have no frame of reference for physical abuse.
If I'd been even, say, violently mugged in my 20s, I'm pretty sure i'd be able to recall the season and year it happened even here at 50.

She's not claiming that this is a recovered memory or something.
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by Holman » Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:26 pm

stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:16 pm
Well...when you wait 23 years to say anything, details tend to get muddy.
Did I report it to the police?

No.

Did I tell anyone about it?

Yes. I told two close friends. The first, a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc., begged me to go to the police.

“He raped you,” she kept repeating when I called her. “He raped you. Go to the police! I’ll go with you. We’ll go together.”

My second friend is also a journalist, a New York anchorwoman. She grew very quiet when I told her, then she grasped both my hands in her own and said, “Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you.” (Two decades later, both still remember the incident clearly and confirmed their accounts to New York.)
Why haven’t I “come forward” before now?

Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women who’ve come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward.
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by stimpy » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:21 pm

Holman wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:26 pm
stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:16 pm
Well...when you wait 23 years to say anything, details tend to get muddy.
Did I report it to the police?

No.

Did I tell anyone about it?

Yes. I told two close friends. The first, a journalist, magazine writer, correspondent on the TV morning shows, author of many books, etc., begged me to go to the police.

“He raped you,” she kept repeating when I called her. “He raped you. Go to the police! I’ll go with you. We’ll go together.”

My second friend is also a journalist, a New York anchorwoman. She grew very quiet when I told her, then she grasped both my hands in her own and said, “Tell no one. Forget it! He has 200 lawyers. He’ll bury you.” (Two decades later, both still remember the incident clearly and confirmed their accounts to New York.)
Why haven’t I “come forward” before now?

Receiving death threats, being driven from my home, being dismissed, being dragged through the mud, and joining the 15 women who’ve come forward with credible stories about how the man grabbed, badgered, belittled, mauled, molested, and assaulted them, only to see the man turn it around, deny, threaten, and attack them, never sounded like much fun. Also, I am a coward.
Oh....and I have a book about to be published.
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Post by malchior » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:38 pm

Holman wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 5:19 pm
LordMortis wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:15 pm
stimpy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:58 pm
Wow....her recollection is so crystal clear and full of detail. She can even pinpoint the incident within a 6 month period!!!!
I do appreciate the not so subtle dig at his junk though.....makes her story all that more believable......
I don't know her story or that kind of trauma but what you read as six months, I read as probably two months or less. late one year, early the next suggest December or January, February at the latest. I read her saying it was winter and that's about how well my sense for time goes as well. For my memory that's not an unreasonable jump, even with horrible events. Though I have no frame of reference for physical abuse.
If I'd been even, say, violently mugged in my 20s, I'm pretty sure i'd be able to recall the season and year it happened even here at 50.

She's not claiming that this is a recovered memory or something.
Yep. People have varying reactions to traumatic events. Some forget details and some remember every detail. I do not see that or the timing of the release with a book to be all that damning. Unless someone can explain why her friends are potentially falsely corroborating the account this sounds fairly credible. I also have to wonder how many women have to come forward about this guy without the bullshit doubt seeping in?

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Post by Holman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:33 am

stimpy wrote:
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Oh....and I have a book about to be published.
Well, this story and others of a similar nature ARE the book. The Trump revelation is an excerpt from it.
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Post by Holman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:41 pm

Trump claims his accusers have been paid to slander him.

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Post by LawBeefaroni » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:59 pm

Well, I'm convinced.

Plus, if anyone knows anything about paying women to say/not say things, it's that man.
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Post by Holman » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:50 pm

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Post by em2nought » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:10 am

At least in Stormy's case she'll be able to pay Trump's lawyer fees back one dollar at a time. :mrgreen:
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Post by Skinypupy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 pm

Trump denies rape allegations against him by stating "First, she's not my type."
In an exclusive interview with The Hill, the president vehemently denied the allegations just hours after Carroll detailed the alleged incident during a cable news interview.


“I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?” the president said while seated behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office.
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Post by em2nought » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:01 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:00 pm
Trump denies rape allegations against him by stating "First, she's not my type."
In an exclusive interview with The Hill, the president vehemently denied the allegations just hours after Carroll detailed the alleged incident during a cable news interview.


“I’ll say it with great respect: Number one, she’s not my type. Number two, it never happened. It never happened, OK?” the president said while seated behind the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office.
As always, deplorable wasn't nearly a strong enough word for this pig of a human being.
She's definitely not my type either. :wink:
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Post by Skinypupy » Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pm

Well, thank you for reminding everyone - yet again - what a truly detestable human being you are as well, I guess.

Trumps comment is a telling (if unsurprising) look into how his mind works, given that rape has very little to do with attraction and far more to do with power and control.
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Re: Stormy Weather (Trump & Women)

Post by em2nought » Tue Jun 25, 2019 2:02 am

Skinypupy wrote:
Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:07 pm
Well, thank you for reminding everyone - yet again - what a truly detestable human being you are as well, I guess.
What? You think I didn't just purposely hand you that one? :roll:
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