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Well....that was a hole buncha nutting.
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stimpy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 pm Well....that was a hole buncha nutting.
Ha.
Really.

What exactly is it that would help you get on board the idea that Trump is a total garbage president ?

I liked that this ‘interview’ was pretty tame, cause it didn’t need to establish much.


Your doubledown on the nothing burger is just troubling, IMO.
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stimpy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 pm Well....that was a hole buncha nutting.
Right. Because sending someone verbally to threaten a mistress, then having your lawyer pay her hush money (which is in violation of campaign finance law) is certainly behavior all our elected leaders should aspire to. :roll:

That said, I’m mostly just creeped out by the fact he hits in porn stars by telling them they look just like his daughter. Ew.
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Creepy yes surprising no.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:09 pm I have little interest in the shitshow (it'll just further prove Trump is an asshole, and will be immediately dismissed by all the Trumpsters), but thought this was pretty funny. Stormy was asked her recommendations for viewing food tonight, and she came back with this:

:lol: :lol:

I don't do Twitter (though I appreciate reading what I find here on OO quite often), but I just spent the last 30 minutes reading her feed...it's no wonder trump doesn't say anything to her, she'd destroy him.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:43 pm
stimpy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 pm Well....that was a hole buncha nutting.
Right. Because sending someone verbally to threaten a mistress, then having your lawyer pay her hush money (which is in violation of campaign finance law) is certainly behavior all our elected leaders should aspire to. :roll:
The first part is nothing because it is currently just her telling a story with nothing to back it up. I don't doubt it, but it is useless information. The second part we already knew.

So it really was nothing.
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I don't see it as 'nothing'. This is why some people send anonymous people to intimidate people in parking lots. It sets up a chain of events just like this. The entire point is to terrorize people into taking actions that undermine their credibility if they get the courage to speak. Taking that into consideration is important.

I think the piece provided enough context for people to gauge the veracity of the first part - which was truly unknown in the details. More there *was* something to back her up. Cohen's conduct. The payment showed they felt there was something they needed to protect against. The entire thing looks worse too if you believe her assertion that they approached her. It does not sound like she was shaking them down at the critical moment.
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That's what this all boils down to. You don't pay someone hush money to not talk about something that never happened.

We can argue that her interview really didn't shed any more light on the whole ordeal, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that Trump is a disgusting adulterous creep.
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Blackhawk wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:12 am
Skinypupy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 11:43 pm
stimpy wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2018 8:31 pm Well....that was a hole buncha nutting.
Right. Because sending someone verbally to threaten a mistress, then having your lawyer pay her hush money (which is in violation of campaign finance law) is certainly behavior all our elected leaders should aspire to. :roll:
The first part is nothing because it is currently just her telling a story with nothing to back it up. I don't doubt it, but it is useless information. The second part we already knew.

So it really was nothing.
"Nothing to see here" and "we got no new information" are two vastly different things.

I'm not sure which stimpy was referring to. I assumed the former, hence my reaction.
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And yet, here we are. Trump will get away with it. His people will stand behind him. He will ride out his term unless there's a big enough midterm to swing it all against him and bring justice back. Even then, we're left with Pence - who by all accounts is probably a bigger and more capable danger to America than Trump.

I'm honestly at a point where I'm just hoping to survive until Trump is done by natural process and doesn't get re-elected. His administration is only good at undoing Obama's work and destroying America as a global leader... but dammit, we should be able to fix all that when he's done. The only good thing about him is his complete chaos, and thus ineffectiveness.
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Skinypupy wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:59 am I'm not sure which stimpy was referring to. I assumed the former, hence my reaction.
Does the misspelling mean nothing to you people??? :P
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Nutting/busting a nut is not well known slang for ejaculation in my part of the world, although I do know of the expression, unfortunately.

Is that your reference, stimpy?
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I noticed the pun last night. I was just replying to the response to it.

We hoped that there would be something substantial here. She went in talking about photographs and teasing pictures of DVDs. What we got was an easily discreditable witness telling a story about an anonymous man in a parking lot 7 years ago.

In other words, we got another anecdote about why Trump is a bad person. That's it. Effectively nothing.
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Everyone is inpatient, looking for the smoking gun (or in this case the purient tapes). What is important is that she reiterated her story and put the ball back in Trump's court.

It's not the kind of thing that usually unfolds overnight.
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This isn't so much about the crime, but the cover up. There are so many things going on here that are fascinating from a legal, salacious and criminal standpoint. Call it "The Porn Star and the President" and you have a fictional bestseller. Except this is reality TV in 2018.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:24 am Everyone is inpatient
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coopasonic wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:40 am
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:24 am Everyone is inpatient
:lol:
Stupid hospital gig.



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YellowKing wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:53 am That's what this all boils down to. You don't pay someone hush money to not talk about something that never happened.

We can argue that her interview really didn't shed any more light on the whole ordeal, but in the end it doesn't change the fact that Trump is a disgusting adulterous creep.
And it's not even the adultery that matters here.

It's that POTUS has demonstrated a clear willingness to behave badly, open himself to blackmail, indulge in cover-ups, lie repeatedly about it all even when cornered, and do it again and again and again because in private life he nearly always got away with it.

The implications of this pattern are way more serious outside of the bedroom.
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Judd Legum wrote:Michael Cohen is demanding Stormy Daniels retract and apologize for a claim SHE DID NOT MAKE
[Cohen's cease-and-desist] letter demands that Daniels “immediately retract and apologize through national media” for making such a claim and “make clear [she has] no facts or evidence whatsoever that my client had anything whatsoever to do with this alleged thug.”

There’s one problem with the letter: Daniels never made such a claim.

In the interview that aired Sunday, Daniels — whose legal name is Stephanie Clifford — said she was approached by a man in a Las Vegas parking lot who warned her to stop talking about Donald Trump and threatened her life.

The alleged incident occurred in 2011, shortly after Daniels gave an interview to Life & Style magazine about her affair with Trump. The magazine ultimately did not run the story after receiving a legal threat from Cohen.

But Daniels did not not suggest that the man who threatened her was sent by Michael Cohen.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:53 am That's what this all boils down to. You don't pay someone hush money to not talk about something that never happened.
Not that I'm on Trump's side at all here, but sure you do. If someone is threatening to go public with a lie that the public will readily believe, it might be in a person's best interest to just pay the problem to go away.
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But what if you're a guy with a history of refusing to pay people who you legit owed money to? Offering to pay hush money for a made up story doesn't seem like Trump's MO.
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Well, I don't think in this scenario that Trump is telling the truth. I think he had the affair and paid the hush money. I'm just saying that the payment of hush money is not itself dispositive in proving that it happened.
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It is pretty compelling, however.

Does anyone think Trump wouldn't send a thug to intimidate Stormy (or have someone disposable do it for him)? Hell, that's half the reason why the deplorables love him.
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Has Trump taken credit for giving 60 Minutes a ratings boost?
Anderson Cooper's interview with Stormy Daniels propelled "60 Minutes" to its highest-rated episode in 10 years, according to Nielsen ratings.

Preliminary ratings, known as "overnights," showed the episode drawing more than twice as many viewers than a typical edition of the show.

The program is expected to rank as the highest-rated "60 Minutes" episode since Barack and Michelle Obama sat down for their first post-election interview in 2008.
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He would but apparently Stormy Daniels is the one subject he can resist Tweeting about.
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Well, her and the Austin bombings.
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Chaz wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:20 pm Well, her and the Austin bombings.
He tweeted about that.
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Jag wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:24 pm
Chaz wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:20 pm Well, her and the Austin bombings.
He tweeted about that.
This is literally his only tweet about the Austin bombings:
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AUSTIN BOMBING SUSPECT IS DEAD. Great job by law enforcement and all concerned![/url]

So I guess, yeah, he did.
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Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:11 pm He would but apparently Stormy Daniels is the one subject he can resist Tweeting about.
That says a lot to me. There is a pattern where it looks like the only subjects he keeps quiet about are the ones who actually have something on him.
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I can't believe I'm going to quote Ann Coulter, but I loled:
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Of course what Ann Coulter means is that Trump hasn't been as cruel and repressive as his voters wanted.

Her constant complaint is that Trump isn't Islamophobic/anti-immigrant/racist enough.
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Holman wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:51 pm Of course what Ann Coulter means is that Trump hasn't been as cruel and repressive as his voters wanted.

Her constant complaint is that Trump isn't Islamophobic/anti-immigrant/racist enough.
I know, but watching these evil shits turn on each other is still entertaining.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:16 pm Well, I don't think in this scenario that Trump is telling the truth. I think he had the affair and paid the hush money. I'm just saying that the payment of hush money is not itself dispositive in proving that it happened.
The payment of hush money should be enough to remove him from POTUS though because it opens the possibility of his caving to the demands of others to avoid embarrassment. Whether or not he cheated is immaterial to me. I already feel he is an immoral piece of crap. That he paid her to be quiet matters.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:59 am
ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:16 pm Well, I don't think in this scenario that Trump is telling the truth. I think he had the affair and paid the hush money. I'm just saying that the payment of hush money is not itself dispositive in proving that it happened.
The payment of hush money should be enough to remove him from POTUS though because it opens the possibility of his caving to the demands of others to avoid embarrassment. Whether or not he cheated is immaterial to me. I already feel he is an immoral piece of crap. That he paid her to be quiet matters.
I don’t think it matters much. Unless he used campaign finances to do it. Then it matters. But I’m not holding my breath we’re going to find proof of that. As stupid (and cheap) as he is, even Trump and his handlers probably wouldn’t make that mistake.

Honestly, I kind of wish this whole thing would resolve sooner rather than later and Stormy Daniels would just go away. I find her and her lawyer, Avenatti, to be incredibly annoying.
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And I want her to stick around indefinitely.

If we're shooing people away based on annoyance, there's an entire white house full of people that need to go long before Miss Weather.

As for stupidity, he's already done some pretty sketchy things with his "charity". I don't immediately assume that his campaign was run any more ethically.
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Kurth wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:07 am As stupid (and cheap) as he is, even Trump and his handlers probably wouldn’t make that mistake.

Honestly, I kind of wish this whole thing would resolve sooner rather than later and Stormy Daniels would just go away. I find her and her lawyer, Avenatti, to be incredibly annoying.
Michael Cohen strikes me as being almost as stupid as Trump. So I'm not ruling anything out.

I agree that Avenatti is annoying. He's actually supposed to be a really good lawyer, but I'm incredibly tired of his schtick going on every news show just to tell everyone how he cannot comment on anything and everything will be revealed in due time.

I'm willing to put up with this (relatively minor) annoyance though, if that means that Stormy sticks around long enough to bring down this whole shithouse.
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Remus West wrote: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:59 am
The payment of hush money should be enough to remove him from POTUS though because it opens the possibility of his caving to the demands of others to avoid embarrassment. Whether or not he cheated is immaterial to me. I already feel he is an immoral piece of crap. That he paid her to be quiet matters.
It doesn't matter to me, personally. Nor does the fact that he (probably) sent a goon to threaten her. If you tell me that a murderer-rapist-child molester is also an arsonist, it doesn't change my opinion of them. I'm well aware that Trump is the worst type of human. I've read dozens of anecdotes to back that up. One more doesn't really make a difference.

It doesn't matter to the world at large. I'd like to think that stuff like this is chipping away at the Republican base, one piece at a time, but anyone left at this point is left because they prefer fantasy to facts, so more facts aren't going to sway them.

Whether it matters legally has yet to be determined. That's the only real potential this has (and that information isn't new to the interview.)
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