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Post by Moliere » Fri May 04, 2018 5:46 pm

The Brilliant Egomaniac Who Could Bring Down Donald Trump
Someday, when the story of Donald Trump’s decline and fall comes to be written, historians may wonder at the impact of a hiring decision that passed by unnoted at the time. When Stormy Daniels brought on Michael Avenatti, she unleashed a force of nature who has been steadily besting Trump at his own game. Now, two months after Avenatti first appeared on the porn actress’ behalf, Daniels’ lawyer has laid a series of traps that have genuinely imperiled Trump’s presidency.

In hiring Avenatti, Daniels both benefited from bringing on a zealous advocate and from dumping one of the world’s worst lawyers. If you want to know more about Avenatti’s predecessor Keith Davidson and haven’t already showered today, have a look at William Bastone’s deep dive in the Smoking Gun. “Davidson specializes in extracting payments in exchange for the quashing of incriminating videos and/or details about sexual indiscretions, STDs, and all manner of regrettable behavior,” Bastone writes.
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If Robert Mueller is silent as the tomb, Michael Avenatti is a midtown traffic jam—specifically, the one between 30 Rock and the Time Warner Center. At this point he has replaced the old “full Ginsburg” with the Avenatti ricochet—MSBNC to CNN to MSNBC and back to CNN in the same day. He is a risk-taker and a rule-breaker. He gets his energy from insulting enemies and taking theatrical umbrage at their pathetic responses. But if he mirrors Trump in certain respects, Avenatti is deeply unlike him in ways that matter greatly to their conflict. His ego is large, but aligns with his desired outcome. His impulse is to use the truth to his advantage rather than to spin a convenient lie.
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Could the Daniels case bring Trump down? It has the advantage of obviousness. The Russia scandal, comprising various scenarios around collusion and an encyclopedia of unpronounceable names, is difficult to follow and understand. The Stormy Daniels story, if less important, has the virtue of being extremely easy to follow: sex with a porn star, lies, and hush money. If there’s not enough rope here to hang Trump with, it does give him enough rope to hang himself, which Trump shows every indication of doing.


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Post by Victoria Raverna » Fri May 04, 2018 7:12 pm

Isn't "funneled through law firm" = admitting to money laundering?

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Post by hepcat » Fri May 04, 2018 7:29 pm

Not if you add “but it wasn’t illegal” to the end of any sentence in which you mention it.
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Post by Zaxxon » Fri May 04, 2018 7:35 pm

NO LAUNDERING!

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Post by LordMortis » Fri May 04, 2018 9:47 pm

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Not if you add “but it wasn’t illegal” to the end of any sentence in which you mention it.
So so the the party of Trump would have us believe.

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Post by em2nought » Sat May 05, 2018 1:18 pm

Just figured out that the "Make America Horny Again" tour has already been to Tampa. The press really needs to do a better job of keeping us informed of these important events. There goes my chance to share something in common with POTUS. :doh: (don't ya just love these openings I give you for comedic response)
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Tue May 08, 2018 6:16 pm

Stormy Daniel's lawyer posted this on Twitter today:


After significant investigation, we have discovered that Mr. Trump’s atty Mr. Cohen received approximately $500,000 in the mos. after the election from a company controlled by a Russian Oligarc with close ties to Mr. Putin. These monies may have reimbursed the $130k payment.
He doesn't post any evidence to back that claim up, so take it with a grain of salt. But if true: :shock: :pop:

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Post by pr0ner » Tue May 08, 2018 6:18 pm

That's almost too Louise Menschian to be true....
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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 6:20 pm

If he found out that then Mueller and co. certainly did.

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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 6:35 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:16 pm
Stormy Daniel's lawyer posted this on Twitter today:


After significant investigation, we have discovered that Mr. Trump’s atty Mr. Cohen received approximately $500,000 in the mos. after the election from a company controlled by a Russian Oligarc with close ties to Mr. Putin. These monies may have reimbursed the $130k payment.
He doesn't post any evidence to back that claim up, so take it with a grain of salt. But if true: :shock: :pop:

I don't get it. To date he's been smart with his big mouth. That doesn't seem like a smart big mouth move, which leads me back to I don't get it. To date he's been smart with his big mouth. That doesn't seem like a smart big mouth move...

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Post by geezer » Tue May 08, 2018 6:37 pm

pr0ner wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:18 pm
That's almost too Louise Menschian to be true....
CNN now corroborating..

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Post by Rip » Tue May 08, 2018 6:38 pm

The same company that gave a couple hundred thousand to the Clinton Foundation.
The Clintons' relationship with Viktor Vekselberg, the billionaire whose name appears in the documents, has taken on new significance amid an expanding criminal investigation into his company. Last week, authorities raided the offices of Vekselberg's firm, Renova Group, following allegations of bribery from several of Renova's subsidiaries.

Vekselberg had been named head of a partnership dubbed the "Russian Silicon Valley" just three months before a Clinton Foundation employee began pushing the State Department to approve Bill Clinton's proposed meeting with Vekselberg and a handful of other Russian executives.

The emails, obtained by conservative-leaning Citizens United and provided first to the Washington Examiner, do not reveal any illegal activity on the part of the State Department, the Clintons or their foundation.

But the records shed light on one of many relationships that blurred the lines between the Clinton's political, financial and philanthropic pursuits while Hillary Clinton served as secretary of state.

Vekselberg's Renova Group has donated between $50,000 and $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, donor records show. Another firm associated with Vekselberg, OC Oerlikon, donated $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

Renova's interests in mining, oil and telecommunications have helped Vekselberg become one of Russia's wealthiest individuals and an influential figure within the Kremlin.

Beginning in May 2010, Amitabh Desai, a Clinton Foundation employee who acted as a frequent liaison to the State Department on behalf of Bill Clinton, asked agency officials if they had any objections to the former president's plan to meet with a handful of Russian executives on an upcoming swing through the country.

"Would State have concerns about WJC seeing any of these folks?" Desai wrote on May 14, 2010, using Bill Clinton's initials. Vekselberg's name appeared on the list of Russian businessmen.

After receiving no reply, Desai asked senior members of Hillary Clinton's staff again 10 days later for their thoughts on Bill Clinton's proposed meetings. On June 3, 2010, Desai said he and the former president "urgently need feedback" about what he had described as a "possible trip to Russia."

Finally, after Desai entreated the State Department for a response to the list of names for the fourth time on June 7, 2010, Jake Sullivan, a top aide to Hillary Clinton, forwarded the request to another State Department official and asked: "What's the deal [with] this?"

In April of that year, Bill Clinton's staff had submitted to the State Department ethics office a request for the former president to deliver a paid speech in Moscow on June 28, 2010, an engagement that necessitated the trip to Russia that Desai described.

Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank, paid Bill Clinton $500,000 for that speech, according to his wife's financial disclosures from 2010. The State Department had given its approval for the trip just two days after Bill Clinton's office filed its request.

The former president's travel to Russia for the speech and potential meetings with Vekselberg and others came as Hillary Clinton's State Department labored to drum up interest in a technology-sharing project, led by Vekselberg, called Skolkovo.

Hailed as the Russian version of Silicon Valley, Skolkovo was conceived during President Obama's "Russia Reset" as a way to attract investors to Moscow-based technology start-ups.

Hillary Clinton, responsible for the mechanics of the Russia Reset, was tasked with finding companies to invest in and work with Skolkovo in the early months of her tenure.

Four days after Hillary Clinton met with then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev in March 2010, Medvedev announced that Vekselberg would head up the Skolkovo project.

Just one day after Hillary Clinton had a private phone call with John Chambers, CEO of Cisco, Medvedev met with Cisco executives in California. That same day, Vekselberg announced that Cisco and Boeing would invest in Skolkovo.

Both Cisco and Boeing are major Clinton Foundation donors. Cisco paid Bill Clinton $256,000 for a speech in Oct. 2010, just three months after Vekselberg's announcement that the firm would invest $1 billion in Skolkovo.

As Peter Schweizer, author of "Clinton Cash," noted in his report on the technology project, 17 of the 28 companies that were ultimately listed as "key partners" in Skolkovo were also Clinton Foundation donors.

The Clinton's relationship to Vekselberg continued throughout Hillary Clinton's time at the State Department.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/emai ... estigation

Careful pulling that thread. No telling what will fall out.

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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 6:41 pm

Clinton's did it!
Clinton's did it!
I must say I am impressed you can loathe them and yet worship how they play the game even after losing.

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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 pm

The whataboutism is one thing. However, the idea that openly disclosed donations to the Clinton Foundation == money paid directly into a secret slush fund definitely used to pay hush money is breathtakingly stupid. Especially when the slush fund is controlled by a lawyer with essentially one client who happens to be the President of the United States.

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Post by Rip » Tue May 08, 2018 7:01 pm

Then you must not have been around long.

I loathe Michael Jordan but worship how he played the game.

I loathe Tiger Woods but worship how he played the game.

I loathe LeBron James but worship how he plays the game.

I loathe Roger Clemens but worship how he played the game.

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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 7:03 pm

Now this -- ATT confirms they paid the same LLC for 'consulting' to (paraphrasing here) 'understand the new administration'. This is turning into a major corruption story on top. What a nothingburger!


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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 7:07 pm

CNN has Rip's back

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/08/politics ... index.html

Here is a whole article backing him on how the Clinton's are destroying America in 2018.
Renova Group donated between $50,000 and $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation, but it's not clear when the contribution occurred, according to the foundation's public list of donors.

Vekselberg may also be of interest to investigators because of his close ties to the Kremlin. He built his fortune following the collapse of the Soviet Union through a series of deals in the oil and gas sector.

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Post by Rip » Tue May 08, 2018 7:08 pm

malchior wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 pm
The whataboutism is one thing. However, the idea that openly disclosed donations to the Clinton Foundation == money paid directly into a secret slush fund definitely used to pay hush money is breathtakingly stupid. Especially when the slush fund is controlled by a lawyer with essentially one client who happens to be the President of the United States.
He had as I understand it seven clients. One of whom might well be Columbus Nova or Andrew Intrater.

There is no secret slush fund. That is just Fake News.

Ah-Oh AT&T paying into that so-called slush fund as well.
AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that it paid President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for "insights into understanding the new administration."
The payments were revealed in a document published by Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti Tuesday afternoon.

Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner at the time. Time Warner is CNN's parent company.

A document released by Avenatti stated that "Essential received $200,000 in four separate payments of $50,000 in late 2017 and early 2018 from AT&T."

An AT&T spokesman would not confirm the amount, but did confirm that it enlisted Cohen's company.

"Essential Consulting was one of several firms we engaged in early 2017 to provide insights into understanding the new administration," AT&T said Tuesday evening. "They did no legal or lobbying work for us, and the contract ended in December 2017."
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/08/media/a ... index.html

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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 7:26 pm

malchior wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 6:57 pm
a lawyer with essentially one client who happens to be the President of the United States.

Not a client. I have a whole team of lawyers and none of them is Cohen, and you know can't "prove." The House investigation has already said, NO COLLUSION. This witch hunt is nothing but LYING COMEY's abuse of courts to get around Client Attorney privilege. NEED A NEW FBI.

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Post by GreenGoo » Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm

Wait, did Rip just admit that he loathes Clinton personally and not her ability to play the game?

That's a huge step for him, good job.

And on that note, if he's a big fan of how the game is played without worrying so much about the player, he really should have supported Clinton. She's a much better player. That's self evident. Unless you think the game ends on election day, which would be shortsighted and dumb, so that can't be it.

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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm

Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:08 pm
Ah-Oh AT&T paying into that so-called slush fund as well.
AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that it paid President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for "insights into understanding the new administration."
The payments were revealed in a document published by Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti Tuesday afternoon.

Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner at the time. Time Warner is CNN's parent company.

A document released by Avenatti stated that "Essential received $200,000 in four separate payments of $50,000 in late 2017 and early 2018 from AT&T."

An AT&T spokesman would not confirm the amount, but did confirm that it enlisted Cohen's company.

"Essential Consulting was one of several firms we engaged in early 2017 to provide insights into understanding the new administration," AT&T said Tuesday evening. "They did no legal or lobbying work for us, and the contract ended in December 2017."
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/08/media/a ... index.html
You do know what a slush fund is, right? Political bribery + paying off a porn star = slush fund.

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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 7:34 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:27 pm
And on that note, if he's a big fan of how the game is played without worrying so much about the player, he really should have supported Clinton. She's a much better player. That's self evident. Unless you think the game ends on election day, which would be shortsighted and dumb, so that can't be it.
Well, she lost. I like people who weren't losers. I think Hillary Clinton’s done very little for the game. I’m very disappointed in Hillary Clinton. Back me up on this, Orrin Wormtongue.

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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 7:56 pm

Truth



Also Novartis confirms payments - this all seems on the up and up, right? Novartis literally pretty much put the blame on the prior CEO.


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Post by Kurth » Tue May 08, 2018 8:46 pm

These payments and the companies making them (AT&T, Novartis, probably others) suck. What legitimate purpose could those payments possibly serve other than buying influence? Not to get all pollyanna here, but I didn't think this level of corruption was so . . . blatant. At least pay some legitimate lobbyists in some fancy lobbying firms. Don't pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Michael Fucking Cohen for "insights into understanding the new administration."

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Post by malchior » Tue May 08, 2018 8:52 pm

What I want to see is if the money flowed *out* of the account to Trump linked accounts. Michelle Wolf probably had it right. Trump is broke.

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malchior wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 8:52 pm
What I want to see is if the money flowed *out* of the account to Trump linked accounts. Michelle Wolf probably had it right. Trump is broke.
Was broke. Was. He's pulled off a hell of a swindle and he's probably currently not broke.
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malchior wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm
Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:08 pm
Ah-Oh AT&T paying into that so-called slush fund as well.
AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that it paid President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for "insights into understanding the new administration."
The payments were revealed in a document published by Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti Tuesday afternoon.

Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner at the time. Time Warner is CNN's parent company.

A document released by Avenatti stated that "Essential received $200,000 in four separate payments of $50,000 in late 2017 and early 2018 from AT&T."

An AT&T spokesman would not confirm the amount, but did confirm that it enlisted Cohen's company.

"Essential Consulting was one of several firms we engaged in early 2017 to provide insights into understanding the new administration," AT&T said Tuesday evening. "They did no legal or lobbying work for us, and the contract ended in December 2017."
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/08/media/a ... index.html
You do know what a slush fund is, right? Political bribery + paying off a porn star = slush fund.
Well AT&T paid money to the same shell company as Columbus Nova paid money to. Either it wasn't a slush fund or AT&T paid money to this so-called slush fund.
Which is it?

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Post by Rip » Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 pm

Kurth wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 8:46 pm
These payments and the companies making them (AT&T, Novartis, probably others) suck. What legitimate purpose could those payments possibly serve other than buying influence? Not to get all pollyanna here, but I didn't think this level of corruption was so . . . blatant. At least pay some legitimate lobbyists in some fancy lobbying firms. Don't pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Michael Fucking Cohen for "insights into understanding the new administration."

There's simply not a big enough vomiting smilie for this.
The revolting thing if anything is it is no different than they did for Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and so on. No one cared until now. Wonder why?
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Post by Unagi » Tue May 08, 2018 9:11 pm

Cause Trump is a Russian puppet?

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Post by Zarathud » Tue May 08, 2018 9:19 pm

Trump isn't a legitimate charity.
Cohen made the corruption blatant.
The hypocrisy of "drain the swap."
Russian puppet.
Porn star.
Outright lies.
Nothingburger.

Pretty good reasons to care now.

Besides, if Trump loses then you don't have to worship his golden idol, Rip.
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Tue May 08, 2018 9:21 pm

Rip wrote:
malchior wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 pm
Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 7:08 pm
Ah-Oh AT&T paying into that so-called slush fund as well.
AT&T confirmed Tuesday evening that it paid President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen in 2017 for "insights into understanding the new administration."
The payments were revealed in a document published by Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti Tuesday afternoon.

Avenatti alleged that Essential Consultants, a shell company set up by Cohen before the election to pay Daniels, was paid by several corporations, including AT&T. AT&T was seeking government approval for its acquisition of Time Warner at the time. Time Warner is CNN's parent company.

A document released by Avenatti stated that "Essential received $200,000 in four separate payments of $50,000 in late 2017 and early 2018 from AT&T."

An AT&T spokesman would not confirm the amount, but did confirm that it enlisted Cohen's company.

"Essential Consulting was one of several firms we engaged in early 2017 to provide insights into understanding the new administration," AT&T said Tuesday evening. "They did no legal or lobbying work for us, and the contract ended in December 2017."
http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/08/media/a ... index.html
You do know what a slush fund is, right? Political bribery + paying off a porn star = slush fund.
Well AT&T paid money to the same shell company as Columbus Nova paid money to. Either it wasn't a slush fund or AT&T paid money to this so-called slush fund.
Which is it?
Seems like the obvious answer is that AT&T paid money to a slush fund? AT&T says the LLC didn’t provide any lawyer services to them, so it seems like the money was solely used to buy influence. As said above, though, the big question is where this money went after Cohen got it.

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Post by Jeff V » Tue May 08, 2018 9:30 pm

Obviously, it went to those who killed Net Neutrality.

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Post by hepcat » Tue May 08, 2018 9:33 pm

Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 pm
Kurth wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 8:46 pm
These payments and the companies making them (AT&T, Novartis, probably others) suck. What legitimate purpose could those payments possibly serve other than buying influence? Not to get all pollyanna here, but I didn't think this level of corruption was so . . . blatant. At least pay some legitimate lobbyists in some fancy lobbying firms. Don't pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to Michael Fucking Cohen for "insights into understanding the new administration."

There's simply not a big enough vomiting smilie for this.
The revolting thing if anything is it is no different than they did for Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and so on. No one cared until now. Wonder why?
He sure is draining that swamp, eh? :horse:
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Post by LordMortis » Tue May 08, 2018 9:51 pm

Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 9:04 pm
Well AT&T paid money to the same shell company as Columbus Nova paid money to. Either it wasn't a slush fund or AT&T paid money to this so-called slush fund.
Which is it?
I'd throw my dart at the later. That said, I'm not exactly why the shell company is committed to working on an either/or basis. You make it sound like Monty Python skit


"Hey I'm doing shady shit and paying off prostitutes over here! Paying off prostitutes over here!"
"Oh damn, what I really wanted was shady shit and buying legislation"
"I'm so sorry, come back after tea."
... a short while later same man with different mustache
"Hey I'm doing shady shit and selling legislation over here! Selling legislation over here!"
"Weren't you just paying off prostitutes?"
"Me? No No No No. I'm on the up and up and all that. We only sell legislation."
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Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 pm
The revolting thing if anything is it is no different than they did for Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and so on. No one cared until now. Wonder why?
Who didn't care until now? Who is this no one you are referring to. And what makes "everyone" his unquestioning lapdog of loyalty and undying love if he is no different than Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and so on. No entiendo?

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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Tue May 08, 2018 9:52 pm

Jeff V wrote:Obviously, it went to those who killed Net Neutrality.
Quite possibly. Apparently AT&Ts payments stopped after Net Neutrality was repealed.

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Post by Zarathud » Tue May 08, 2018 9:55 pm

It's not like Cohen was practicing law.
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Post by Smoove_B » Tue May 08, 2018 10:10 pm

Rip wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 9:07 pm
The revolting thing if anything is it is no different than they did for Obama, Clinton, Bush, Reagan and so on. No one cared until now. Wonder why?
I must be ignorant, but if you could help a guy out and get me a link to a single comparable story I'd appreciate learning something new. Anything where an AT&T or Norvartis was paying money into a slush fund for Obaman, Clinton, Bush or Reagan to use. It doesn't even need to be a slush fund that was used to pay off a mistress. I'm reasonable.

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Post by Pyperkub » Tue May 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Zarathud wrote:It's not like Cohen was practicing law.
Kind of like Giuliani? (who also needs to brush up on facts, it appears)
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Post by Smoove_B » Tue May 08, 2018 10:13 pm

And I also thought this story from The New Yorker was going to get more discussion. Maybe people are still processing it.
Let me offer an alternative explanation of the affair and the payoff. It is still just a hypothesis, but, I would argue, it fits more comfortably with what we know about the various players than the reported version of events: Donald Trump, not Elliott Broidy, had an affair with Shera Bechard. Bechard hired Keith Davidson, who had negotiated both Playboy playmate Karen McDougal’s deal with the National Enquirer and Stormy Daniels’s NDA with Trump. Davidson called Cohen, and the two of them negotiated a $1.6 million payment to Bechard.

At this point Cohen needed to find a funding source. Cohen asserts he took out a home equity loan to come up with a mere $130,000 to pay off Stormy Daniels, so it seems clear he couldn’t have fronted the $1.6 million for the Bechard deal himself. So Cohen reached out to Elliott Broidy, a very rich Republican fundraiser with several pending and highly lucrative business deals with foreign governments: deals that hinged on whether Broidy could convince the U.S. government to take various actions. By stepping up to take responsibility for the affair and to fund the seven-figure settlement, Broidy was ensuring that he could continue to peddle his influence with Trump to governments around the world.

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