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Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 8:33 pm
by Max Peck
Citizenship, schmitizenship.

'US citizen wrongfully detained' by border patrol
A teenager has been detained by border officials for nearly a month despite being a US citizen, his lawyer says.

Francisco Erwin Galicia, who was born in Dallas, was detained at a checkpoint while travelling to a football scouting event in Texas, his family says.

Lawyer Claudia Galan said officials have refused to release the 18-year-old, who is Hispanic, even though he has documents proving citizenship.

The BBC has contacted Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for comment.

Mr Galicia's mother, Sanjuana Galicia, told the Dallas Morning News that her son had been travelling with his brother and friends from their home in Edinburg, in the south of Texas, to a college west of Dallas on 27 June.

She said the group was stopped at a checkpoint soon into their journey.

Mr Galicia's 17-year-old brother, Marlon, was born in Mexico and does not have US citizenship.

Marlon was detained - but so was Francisco, who was carrying a Texas ID which can only be obtained with a social security number, the family said.

Marlon agreed to be deported to Mexico within a couple of days, and is now living with his grandmother.

Meanwhile, Francisco spent three weeks in the custody of Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), where his mother says he was unable to make phone calls. In recent days, he has moved to ICE custody and has been able to call his mother.

Mrs Galan said she had presented Francisco's birth certificate and other documents to prove he is a US citizen, but has been unable to get him released.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 9:34 pm
by LawBeefaroni
We'll all get to pay a few million to settle that one. Great job, ICE.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2019 10:46 pm
by Isgrimnur
Freed
An 18-year-old U.S. citizen who was detained in federal immigration custody for nearly a month has been released, his mother confirmed to The Washington Post Tuesday night.
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The reason it appears to have taken CBP and ICE so long to determine Galicia’s citizenship is because his mother, who is not a citizen, took out a U.S. tourist visa in his name while he was still a minor, falsely saying he was born in Mexico, Galan said. His mother, Sanjuana, told The Washington Post that CBP discovered the visa after fingerprinting her son. The conflicting documents only fueled the agency’s suspicion that Galicia’s U.S. documents were fake, [his attorney, Claudia] Galan said.

Sanjuana said she took out the tourist visa for her son because she saw it as the only way he could travel back and forth across the border to visit family. The undocumented mother was unable to get him a U.S. passport because when Galicia was born, Galan said, she gave a different name for herself on his birth certificate. (The birth certificate and other identifying documents were reviewed by The Post.)

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:50 am
by Blackhawk
Funny how knowing the whole story works.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:17 pm
by Isgrimnur
CNN
A federal judge in the District of Columbia on Friday threw out a Trump administration policy barring migrants who illegally crossed the border from seeking asylum, finding that it violated the Immigration and Nationality Act.

The administration's policy, signed last November, aimed to temporarily bar migrants who illegally cross into the US through the southern border from seeking asylum outside of official ports of entry.

"[A]liens have a statutory right to seek asylum regardless of whether they enter the United States at a designated port of entry, and defendants may not extinguish that statutory right by regulation or proclamation," wrote District Judge Randolph Moss, an Obama appointee.

Late last year, a federal judge in California blocked Trump's asylum ban and the Supreme Court later upheld the judge's order.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:56 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Blackhawk wrote: Wed Jul 24, 2019 1:50 am Funny how knowing the whole story works.
"Thanks a lot, mom. Geez."

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:14 am
by Max Peck
ICE arrests nearly 700 people in Mississippi raids
US immigration officials have arrested almost 700 people after a series of raids in the state of Mississippi.

The co-ordinated operations targeted workers at seven agricultural processing plants who allegedly did not have proper documentation.

Videos and photos showed agents arriving in buses to question and arrest the people.

Some children were taken to a local gym after they came home to find their parents gone.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said "approximately 680 removable aliens" had been detained.

US President Donald Trump announced an immigration crackdown in June, saying "millions of illegal aliens who [had] found their way into the US" would be removed.

The raids took place just hours before Mr Trump arrived in the majority Latino city of El Paso to mark a mass shooting which left 22 people dead.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:10 am
by LawBeefaroni
I was driving in to work this morning. A car in front of me with expired out of state temporary plates (Washington state I think) was driving unbearable slow. We hit a 4-way stop and a CPD patrol car pulled up to the stop perpendicular to us, on the right, and indicating a left turn towards us. The car in front of me suddenly popped into reverse and stated backing up. When I hit my horn he tried a u-turn but was cut off by the now turning into police car. The officer hit the horn (the annoying buzzing police horn) and yelled at the guy, who was still panicking and trying to find a way to drive out of the situation. The cop then shook his head in disgust and sped off.

I was like, "Welcome to Chicago. Don't worry, no one gives a shit."

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
by Isgrimnur
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:01 am
by malchior
This is fucking evil at work. The man had problems but they sent a diabetic man to a land where he didn't speak the language and he died. This is blood on their hands. If we make it through this period and return to decency we need to confront our demons and the monsters that live among us.


Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:02 am
by msteelers
Isgrimnur wrote:
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.
Nothing. Absolutely nothing. The poor corporate overlords are victims too!

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:08 am
by msteelers
malchior wrote:This is fucking evil at work. The man had problems but they sent a diabetic man to a land where he didn't speak the language and he died. This is blood on their hands. If we make it through this period and return to decency we need to confront our demons and the monsters that live among us.

This hits close to home for me. My cousins husband was brought here as a child from Venezuela. He’s lived his entire life here, is married with a child, but now ICE wants to deport him. They showed up to his work (he’s an accountant) and grabbed him in the middle of the day. Then they wouldn’t tell anybody where they took him. Eventually we found out he was moved to a facility in a different state. He was there for over a month before he was eventually released while his case works through the system.

There’s a good chance he won’t end up being deported, but it’s still a real risk at this point.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:15 am
by malchior
I am not a destroy ICE person...but I am getting there. It isn't clear if Trump's racist poison has metastasized there yet but there is good reason to think it has. Whatever the case they've been the tip of the spear implementing this racist POS's evil immigration policy and hopefully under a Democratic President it will be evaluated.

The man was dumped out there and only made it a little over a month there...it boils my blood. If you read the replies from the baying Trumpsters talking about consequences and all that...we have some real problems here. Let's call it what it was. This was entirely foreseeable. It was a death sentence.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:38 am
by msteelers
My impression of ICE has never been very high. I think they’ve managed to accumulate a lot of cruel people in their ranks. They complained about being forced under Obama to focus on deporting criminals and leaving everyone else alone. They celebrated when Trump “took the shackles” off, allowing them to wait outside of churches, planes, and businesses for the “easy” targets.

If these people (conservatives and the Trump administration) really wanted to stop illegal immigrants then they would target the businesses that employ them. That they only ever want to target brown people is telling.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:19 am
by Isgrimnur
Jackson Free Press
Mike Hurst, United States Attorney for the United States District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi, said at a press conference today that 650 Homeland Security Investigations special agents executed unspecified administrative and criminal search warrants at seven sites in Morton, Carthage, Canton, Pelahatchie, Walnut Grove and Bay Springs in Mississippi, resulting in the detention of approximately 680 illegal aliens.
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"For those who take advantage of illegal aliens, to those who use illegal aliens for competitive advantage or to make a quick buck, we have something to say to you. If we find that you have violated federal criminal law, we're coming after you," Hurst said.
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"HSI's worksite enforcement efforts are equally focused on aliens who unlawfully seek work in the U.S. as well as the employers who knowingly hire them," HSI New Orleans Special Agent Charge Miles said in a statement Hurst's office sent out today.
Of course, no coverage I've seen has any details about what those actions are or what have been taken.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:37 am
by Kraken
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.
They are going to lose production until they can hire 600 more people? Good luck finding citizens who'll do those jobs at slave wages.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:49 am
by malchior
Kraken wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:37 amThey are going to lose production until they can hire 600 more people? Good luck finding citizens who'll do those jobs at slave wages.
It isn't even slave wages. My wife runs QC at a production facility for a medium sized personal products company (think deodorants and shampoos). They are making $15 an hour and a decent amount of overtime. They are working pretty hard compared to a desk job but they aren't exactly poor either. And wages are rising fairly quickly due to labor shortages. That is what makes this insane. We have LABOR SHORTAGES throughout the economy. The data shows it. This policy makes no sense if growth is a priority which it would be if the labor supply wasn't brown.

There is also another fuck ICE component in these raids. When ICE runs through the company every once in awhile they sweep up a lot of brown. One of the assumptions is that their papers are all faked so that let's the company off the hook. Then these people are basically sorted by the system back into the labor force depending on their ability to navigate the system. However, now they run the risk of deportation legitimate or not so...again...I'm getting to a fuck ICE position the more I hear about how it actually operates.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:21 pm
by Alefroth
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.
:lol:

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:49 pm
by hepcat
Watching the video of the kids crying because they have nowhere to go is heartbreaking. :cry:

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:23 pm
by LordMortis
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.

10,000 times this. 700 arrests, none of them the people who did the hiring or those supposably accountable for the company's adherence to the law.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:43 pm
by Kraken
malchior wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:49 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:37 amThey are going to lose production until they can hire 600 more people? Good luck finding citizens who'll do those jobs at slave wages.
It isn't even slave wages. My wife runs QC at a production facility for a medium sized personal products company (think deodorants and shampoos). They are making $15 an hour and a decent amount of overtime.
I would like to believe that chicken pluckers are making $15. Is there any evidence that's so?

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:55 pm
by Isgrimnur
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Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:37 pm
by LordMortis
That'll learn those dirty homeless mentally ill... Greek if you count the first six months of his life before coming to the US... Catholic Christian.... in Arabic American communities.

We'll send then to Iraq, where Chaldean are persecuted.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-det ... ar-AAFweOZ
Aldaoud’s family belongs to the Chaldean Catholic Church, one of the most ancient branches of Christianity. More than 1 million Chaldeans lived in Iraq before the 2003 U.S. invasion, but only a fraction remain today after years of emigration and violence at the hands of militants and the Islamic State.

Aldaoud was born in Greece after his family fled Iraq. Unlike the United States, Greece doesn’t recognize birthright citizenship, so Aldaoud was still considered an Iraqi citizen, even though he had never been there. The family moved to the United States before he turned 1, Bajoka said, settling in Michigan, where a sizable Chaldean community lives.

Aldaoud faced serious health problems, Bajoka said. In addition to diabetes, he was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia and struggled to live a normal life. His run-ins with the law were primarily due to his mental illness, said Bajoka, who never represented Aldaoud in court. The most serious came in 2012 when Aldaoud, described as homeless in local media reports, broke into a garage and stole power tools. He served 17 months on that home invasion conviction, Politico reported, and had a separate conviction for disorderly conduct.

He wasn’t a U.S. citizen, so those criminal convictions made him eligible to be deported. For decades, Iraq had refused to accept deportations from the United States — but that all changed in June 2017. As part of a deal to escape President Trump’s travel ban against a host of majority-Muslim nations, Reuters reported, Iraq agreed to accept deportees. More than 100 Iraqis with criminal records were arrested that month by ICE, mostly in Detroit.

Aldaoud was among those picked up and eventually taken to a federal detention center in Youngstown, Ohio, according to federal court records.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:46 pm
by malchior
LordMortis wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.

10,000 times this. 700 arrests, none of them the people who did the hiring or those supposably accountable for the company's adherence to the law.
I implied it above. If only any of this was about compliance to the law. The company will require paperwork and a lot of it will be fraudulent. To be fairrrr...they have no way to validate documents. The Trumpsters will say that makes the workers all criminals. The realistic know that the system winked at it for decades. So ICE just makes sure the employer's have their paperwork in order and then places the blame squarely on the individual. It is a bullshit scheme.
Kraken wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:43 pm
malchior wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:49 am
Kraken wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:37 amThey are going to lose production until they can hire 600 more people? Good luck finding citizens who'll do those jobs at slave wages.
It isn't even slave wages. My wife runs QC at a production facility for a medium sized personal products company (think deodorants and shampoos). They are making $15 an hour and a decent amount of overtime.
I would like to believe that chicken pluckers are making $15. Is there any evidence that's so?
We're in NJ so that probably accounts for a couple of dollars more an hour than the south but labor shortages are allegedly all across the country at the moment. Production work is relatively good pay but the conditions stink. Hot production facilities all day without AC, etc. The better question is can we get one of our native born snowflakes to work in these conditions even if the pay is "good".

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:57 pm
by LawBeefaroni
malchior wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:46 pm
LordMortis wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 1:23 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:55 am
About 600 ICE agents arrived at the chicken processing plants, owned by five different companies, in the towns of Bay Springs, Canton, Carthage, Morton, Pelahatchie and Sebastopol.
So what actions are being taken against the plant owners and management that hired and continued to employ undocumented immigrants?

Peco Food, Tyson, Koch Foods, M P Food.

10,000 times this. 700 arrests, none of them the people who did the hiring or those supposably accountable for the company's adherence to the law.
I implied it above. If only any of this was about compliance to the law. The company will require paperwork and a lot of it will be fraudulent. To be fairrrr...they have no way to validate documents. The Trumpsters will say that makes the workers all criminals. The realistic know that the system winked at it for decades. So ICE just makes sure the employer's have their paperwork in order and then places the blame squarely on the individual. It is a bullshit scheme.
Even if employers wanted to verify documents there is no way to do so. Whether that is by design or not I don't l know but if you're given a valid SSN and ID there is no practical way to check with he feds to verify the person presenting it.

I have a friend who runs an steel parts company. At their foundry they'd have periodic raids. So one day they asked ICE how they could verify employees so the raids would be less impactful, if not less frequent. They were told there is no way to do so. It's almost like they don't want it to stop under any terms but their own.

Also, these are raids with choppers and the local SWAT boys out playing weekend warrior operating a joint task force. Chasing terrified workers through the woods, legal and illegal alike.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:00 pm
by LordMortis
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:57 pm So one day they asked ICE how they could verify employees so the raids would be less impactful, if not less frequent. They were told there is no way to do so. It's almost like they don't want it to stop under any terms but their own.
Then how do ICE decide who to arrest?

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:07 pm
by malchior
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:57 pmI have a friend who runs an steel parts company. At their foundry they'd have periodic raids. So one day they asked ICE how they could verify employees so the raids would be less impactful, if not less frequent. They were told there is no way to do so. It's almost like they don't want it to stop under any terms but their own.
This is my suspicion too. They scoop *everyone* up sometimes and clean out a production line at random. Eventually 40 to 50% filter back in a few days and more over time. Meanwhile they have to slow production or run a lot of overtime. It is beyond fucked up. I can't even think about how people live this way. It is a heartless system. I'm not going to be surprised if we look back at this as very dark days. I'm hoping for it to be honest because it'd imply it was over and we learned from it.
LordMortis wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:00 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:57 pm So one day they asked ICE how they could verify employees so the raids would be less impactful, if not less frequent. They were told there is no way to do so. It's almost like they don't want it to stop under any terms but their own.
Then how do ICE decide who to arrest?
Color of skin is probably a decent proxy for likelihood of arrest. Sardonic snark aside--in practice, they challenge them for documents on the spot. However, there is always some pretext (e.g. confidential informant) that keeps it all "above board".

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:00 pm
by LawBeefaroni
LordMortis wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:00 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 2:57 pm So one day they asked ICE how they could verify employees so the raids would be less impactful, if not less frequent. They were told there is no way to do so. It's almost like they don't want it to stop under any terms but their own.
Then how do ICE decide who to arrest?
Well, ICE may have a way but there is no way for an employer to verify legal status with the Federal government. My guess is they arrest everyone who can't prove otherwise (with a "hard" document like a passport or birth certificate, not a DL or SSN) and then let God sort them out later.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm
by Isgrimnur
E-Verify
E-Verify is a United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) website that allows businesses to determine the eligibility of their employees, both U.S. or foreign citizens, to work in the United States.
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Research shows that E-Verify harms the labor market outcomes of illegal immigrants and improves the labor market outcomes of Mexican legal immigrants and U.S.-born Hispanics, but has no impact on labor market outcomes for non-Hispanic white Americans. A 2016 study suggests that E-Verify reduces the number of illegal immigrants in states that have mandated use of E-Verify for all employers, and further notes that the program may deter illegal immigration to the US in general.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:14 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:07 pm E-Verify
E-Verify is a United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) website that allows businesses to determine the eligibility of their employees, both U.S. or foreign citizens, to work in the United States.
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Research shows that E-Verify harms the labor market outcomes of illegal immigrants and improves the labor market outcomes of Mexican legal immigrants and U.S.-born Hispanics, but has no impact on labor market outcomes for non-Hispanic white Americans. A 2016 study suggests that E-Verify reduces the number of illegal immigrants in states that have mandated use of E-Verify for all employers, and further notes that the program may deter illegal immigration to the US in general.
A 2019 analysis by the Cato Institute found that while E-Verify used to be effective at spotting illegal immigrants, it was no longer so. The analysis estimated that the system only spotted the hiring of 16.1 percent of illegal immigrant workers in the fiscal year of 2018.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:19 pm
by Isgrimnur
I hadn't read that far down.

Cato
President Trump made waves last week by saying that he didn’t want to mandate E-Verify because the system—which intends to stop illegal workers by checking their information against government databases—is too “tough.” He claimed that when he built the Trump Hotel in D.C., the system rejected nearly 30 people for each person it accepted. But Trump is wrong: E-Verify catches fewer than one in six illegal workers. It’s been more than a decade since E-Verify reliably stopped illegal hires.
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E-Verify can also erroneously deem legal workers “unauthorized,” which means that the number of denials is higher than the number of denials just for illegal immigrants. Legal workers can challenge an initial denial known as a “Tentative Non-Confirmation” (TNC) and try to prove their innocence, but only if their employers inform them of the error and don’t fire them or dump their application. If they don’t challenge or are unable to prove their identity if they do, the system still returns a “Final Non-Confirmation” (FNC), requiring the employer to fire them.
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Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:14 pm
by Skinypupy
hepcat wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2019 12:49 pm Watching the video of the kids crying because they have nowhere to go is heartbreaking. :cry:
Agreed. And watching the complete lack of even the tiniest shred of empathy in the comments is even worse.

I know that's to be expected from any type of social media, but still...it's horrific.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:14 pm
by Isgrimnur
NBC News
A panel of judges on Thursday dismissed an appeal by the U.S. government that contended detained immigrant children might not require soap during shorter stints in custody under a longstanding settlement agreement.

A three-judge panel for the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco dismissed a challenge to a lower court decision that authorities had failed to provide safe and sanitary conditions for the children under the 1997 settlement.

The U.S. government had argued that authorities weren't required to provide specific accommodations, such as soap, under the agreement's requirement that facilities be "safe and sanitary" and asked the panel to weigh in. The appellate judges disagreed and dismissed the government's case.

"Assuring that children eat enough edible food, drink clean water, are housed in hygienic facilities with sanitary bathrooms, have soap and toothpaste, and are not sleep-deprived are without doubt essential to the children's safety," the panel wrote.

The ruling followed a June hearing where a U.S. government lawyer said the agreement was vague and didn't necessarily require that a toothbrush and soap be provided to children during brief stays in custody.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:54 pm
by UsulofDoom
Are they stating that they have to soap in the bathrooms or no personal soap? They should have soap dispensers in the bathrooms and showers.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:58 pm
by LawBeefaroni
UsulofDoom wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:54 pm They should have soap dispensers in the bathrooms and showers.
That would imply potable water. Let's not put the cart before the horse here.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:22 pm
by malchior
Captain at private detention facility which services ICE detainees drives through sit in. Naturally it ended in the protesters getting pepper sprayed. The police allegedly didn't intervene though Rhode Island's AG is investigating. Still his actions are being praised on Lou Dobbs' show tonight. Something is seriously wrong with this country.
As the protest died down, about 30 demonstrators linked arms and sat in the facility’s parking lot entrances to block staff from leaving or entering, Anthony said. The group was peacefully protesting when seemingly out of nowhere a man in a pick-up truck drove towards them, slowing down just before hitting the crowd, footage of the incident shows. The video then shows the driver continuing to drive through the crowd, as protesters scream and try to get away from the car.

Anthony described the interaction that took place just before 10 p.m. on Wednesday as “terrifying,” saying the “brazen act" shows the driver of truck believed he is "beyond reproach.” She said several people suffered non-life threatening injuries from the incident, and some were brought to a local hospital, including an elderly protester whose leg was fractured during the incident. She also added a father was in the crowd with his three children.
Edit: Video of guards coming out to pepper spray the crowd that had just been run over by a truck.


Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:55 am
by Isgrimnur
Independent
The Trump administration is reportedly set to announce a rule change which would allow the government to hold migrant families in detention camps indefinitely.

Currently, children crossing illegally into the US from Mexico can generally be held for a maximum of 20 days, a limit Donald Trump has blamed for encouraging undocumented families to arrive at the border.

Under the new rule, which would likely require court approval, the Department for Homeland Security (DHS) could hold children in detention for the entirety of their immigration proceedings, which can take months or even years.

The move could be made public on Wednesday, according to ABC News, which spoke to government officials on condition of anonymity.
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NBC News reported Trump administration officials expect to be sued in court imminently by opponents to the plan. [Surprised Pikachu -Isg.]

The possible holding of children indefinitely comes following an announcement by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) that it will not vaccinate migrant families in detention ahead of this year’s flu season.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:59 am
by Isgrimnur
Time
A Rhode Island correctional officer has resigned on Friday after a truck he was allegedly driving rammed into peaceful protesters on Wednesday night outside the Wyatt Detention Center, a Rhode Island prison that contracts with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). He had been placed on leave by facility administrators a day earlier.
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Five people had been taken to the hospital, according to Matt Harvey, Never Again Action spokesperson and organizer, who says he “was about 30 feet to the right of the truck” when it drove into civilians: “Far enough away to not have to scatter but close enough to be startled.”

Two of the five injured people sustained injuries related to the collision, Harvey says. One man in his sixties was left with a broken leg. He says another three, including one woman in her seventies, were admitted to the hospital for injuries related to pepper spray.
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[Aaron Regunberg, an organizer with Never Again Action and a former Rhode Island state representative,] alleges local police refused to take witness statements on the scene, despite protesters “clamoring, asking, demanding,” to give them. The Central Falls Police Department did not immediately respond to a phone call for comment, but a spokesman with the Rhode Island State Police, which has now taken over the investigation, says he was “not aware” of any officers not taking statements.

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:53 am
by LawBeefaroni
Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:55 am Independent
The Trump administration is reportedly set to announce a rule change which would allow the government to hold migrant families in detention camps indefinitely.

Currently, children crossing illegally into the US from Mexico can generally be held for a maximum of 20 days, a limit Donald Trump has blamed for encouraging undocumented families to arrive at the border.

Under the new rule, which would likely require court approval, the Department for Homeland Security (DHS) could hold children in detention for the entirety of their immigration proceedings, which can take months or even years.

The move could be made public on Wednesday, according to ABC News, which spoke to government officials on condition of anonymity.
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NBC News reported Trump administration officials expect to be sued in court imminently by opponents to the plan. [Surprised Pikachu -Isg.]

The possible holding of children indefinitely comes following an announcement by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) that it will not vaccinate migrant families in detention ahead of this year’s flu season.
Go back home! No, wait, stay here! In a prison! Muahahaha, America!

Re: Immigration Policy

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:59 am
by Isgrimnur
We Our elected officials and their lackies are the baddies.