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[Movie] Vice

Post by Kraken » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:17 pm



I was psyched to see this until I read a savage 1.5 star Globe review yesterday. By then I'd already bought tickets based on personal interest in the Cheney administration and a bunch of Golden Globe nominations, so I dove in with reduced expectations.

Although some of the Globe's criticisms are valid (and I'm not linking it because I don't agree with its conclusions), I was not disappointed. It's entertaining, informative, and infuriating. It was carefully researched and as accurate as it could be, given Cheney's care in staying behind the scenes. Recommended for all the political junkies here.

Plus, Rockwell was awesome as Bush. I wish he'd had more screen time, but he's only marginally relevant.

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Post by Scoop20906 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:19 pm

Those ads for the movie look like hero worship. Not a movie for me.
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by Kraken » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:29 pm

Hah! No, it is not a sympathetic portrayal. Not by a long shot.

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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by Unagi » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:33 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:19 pm
Those ads for the movie look like hero worship. Not a movie for me.
No, it actually is. Don't worry.

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Post by pr0ner » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:36 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:
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Those ads for the movie look like hero worship. Not a movie for me.
How was that your takeaway from the commercials and trailers?
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by hepcat » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:47 pm

How can someone see hero worship in the trailers for this? :shock:
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Post by Kraken » Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:59 pm

Imma refrain from saying anything more so as not to spoil it for people. Go see it so we can talk. :)

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[Movie] Vice

Post by Scoop20906 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:42 pm

The trailer is snappy and has cool graphics and shots of Cheney acting cool. Even shoots someone like an cool outlaw. Nothing I attribute with a grumpy, greedy politician.

I'm not a Cheney fan so I'm biased.
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by Scoop20906 » Tue Dec 25, 2018 11:44 pm

Kraken wrote:Imma refrain from saying anything more so as not to spoil it for people. Go see it so we can talk. :)
Can't do that but glad you enjoyed yourself.
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by em2nought » Wed Dec 26, 2018 7:45 pm

Kraken wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:17 pm
Plus, Rockwell was awesome as Bush, but he's only marginally relevant.
So the movie is pretty factual then? :mrgreen: Even I don't like Dick Cheney.
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by Kraken » Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:56 am

That's about right.
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Bush drops out of the picture after Cheney gets control of the WH. Although this is Cheney's story, I do wish that they had made Bush more than an inconvenient distraction. I'd have liked to see more about their relationship. Did Bush ever try to rein Cheney in? Not if this movie is to be believed. Their relationship must have been more complicated than that, and "Vice" doesn't go there at all.

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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by pr0ner » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:34 pm

Kraken wrote:
Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:59 pm
Imma refrain from saying anything more so as not to spoil it for people. Go see it so we can talk. :)
I just watched the movie. I see no hero worship of Cheney. It's a portrait of a man who lusted for power after he got his first taste of it and wanted nothing more than to acquire more. Bale was impressive as Cheney, that's for sure.
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by em2nought » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:41 am

Kraken wrote:
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The New Yorker on Vice vs. the real Dick Cheney

Spoilers, obviously.
He makes a good point that Trump probably isn't going to be able to load the government up with his cronies like Cheney and even to a larger extent Obama was able to do. Trumps cronies aren't in the available pool for the most part, they have to come from outside and then they have to survive Trump's performance reviews. It's too bad he doesn't have more children. :mrgreen:
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Re: [Movie] Vice

Post by Unagi » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:19 am

em2nought wrote:
Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:41 am
It's too bad he doesn't have more children. :mrgreen:
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