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Post by Isgrimnur » Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:28 pm

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Texas is adding short-term-rental site Airbnb to a list of companies that cannot receive state investments because it disallows Israeli-owned rentals in the disputed West Bank.

Airbnb is the only American-based company on Texas' anti-Israel boycott list, which includes a Norwegian financial services group, a British wholesale co-op and a Norwegian insurance company.

Texas is making it "very clear that our state stands with Israel and its people against those wishing to undermine Israel's economy and the wellbeing of its people," said a statement from state Comptroller Glenn Hegar's office.

In November, Airbnb said it would remove about 200 listings in Israeli settlements in the West Bank. It cited a variety of factors for its decision, including whether listings inside an occupied territory had a direct connection to a larger regional dispute.
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Texas' move was praised by Christians United For Israel, the public policy arm of the nation's largest pro-Israel organization. It likened the so-called Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, which seeks to "end international support for Israel's suppression of Palestinians," to "terrorists" and "hostile nations."
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In a recent report, human rights group Amnesty International said tourism-related giants Airbnb, Booking.com, Expedia and TripAdvisor contributed to human rights violations by listing accommodations and attractions in Israeli settlements along the West Bank. The settlements go against international law, the group noted, and booking accommodations there "helps fund an illegal endeavor."

About 26 states, including Texas, have laws on the books that prevent institutions from doing financial harm to Israel if they want state business, citing a desire to avoid using tax dollars to back stances hostile to a U.S. ally.
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Democratic critics of laws cracking down on the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement are increasingly skeptical of Israel's policies and see such laws as an infringement on free speech. In January, Florida added Airbnb to a list of companies that it defines as boycotting Israel. The same month, a bill to crack down on the BDS movement was blocked by Democrats in the Senate.
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Post by Holman » Sat Mar 09, 2019 4:09 pm

I'd criticize this, but apparently it would mean I did 9/11.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Mar 21, 2019 4:48 pm

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President Trump on Thursday abruptly endorsed permanent Israeli control of the disputed Golan Heights, saying on Twitter that the area seized from Syria in the 1967 Arab war is “of critical strategic and security importance” to Israel.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has pressed the United States to formally recognize Israel’s annexation of the land, including making a public appeal for U.S. help as he welcomed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo in Jerusalem on Wednesday.

“After 52 years it is time for the United States to fully recognize Israel’s Sovereignty over the Golan Heights, which is of critical strategic and security importance to the State of Israel and Regional Stability!” Trump tweeted.

Trump’s statement marks a dramatic departure in formal U.S. policy since 1967, when the Golan Heights was first seized from Syria before being effectively annexed in 1981. The endorsement also puts the U.S. administration in the position of backing a key political priority of Netanyahu’s just three weeks before Israel’s national elections and days before the Israeli leader is due in Washington for a visit.
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Trump will welcome Netanyahu at the White House next week for meetings and a private dinner organized by his son-in-law and Middle East adviser, Jared Kushner.
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Post by Defiant » Thu Mar 21, 2019 5:45 pm

Stupid to give this recognition now, instead of using it as leverage during actual peace talks, but based on the timing I imagine this is being done to help Netanyahu during reelection. I hope it backfires.

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Post by Isgrimnur » Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:53 pm

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President Donald Trump has officially recognised Israeli sovereignty over the occupied Golan Heights, seized from Syria in 1967, in a move hailed as "historic" by Israel's prime minister.

Benjamin Netanyahu, who faces an election next month, was by Mr Trump's side as he signed the proclamation.

Syria said Mr Trump's decision was "a blatant attack on its sovereignty".
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In response, Syria has vowed to recover the area "through all available means".
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Mon Mar 25, 2019 6:24 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Sat Mar 09, 2019 3:28 pm
Texas
Texas is adding short-term-rental site Airbnb to a list of companies that cannot receive state investments because it disallows Israeli-owned rentals in the disputed West Bank.

Airbnb is the only American-based company on Texas' anti-Israel boycott list, which includes a Norwegian financial services group, a British wholesale co-op and a Norwegian insurance company.

Texas is making it "very clear that our state stands with Israel and its people against those wishing to undermine Israel's economy and the wellbeing of its people," said a statement from state Comptroller Glenn Hegar's office.

In November, Airbnb said it would remove about 200 listings in Israeli settlements in the West Bank. It cited a variety of factors for its decision, including whether listings inside an occupied territory had a direct connection to a larger regional dispute.
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Texas' move was praised by Christians United For Israel, the public policy arm of the nation's largest pro-Israel organization. It likened the so-called Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement, which seeks to "end international support for Israel's suppression of Palestinians," to "terrorists" and "hostile nations."
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In a recent report, human rights group Amnesty International said tourism-related giants Airbnb, Booking.com, Expedia and TripAdvisor contributed to human rights violations by listing accommodations and attractions in Israeli settlements along the West Bank. The settlements go against international law, the group noted, and booking accommodations there "helps fund an illegal endeavor."

About 26 states, including Texas, have laws on the books that prevent institutions from doing financial harm to Israel if they want state business, citing a desire to avoid using tax dollars to back stances hostile to a U.S. ally.
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Democratic critics of laws cracking down on the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement are increasingly skeptical of Israel's policies and see such laws as an infringement on free speech. In January, Florida added Airbnb to a list of companies that it defines as boycotting Israel. The same month, a bill to crack down on the BDS movement was blocked by Democrats in the Senate.
So what does this mean really? How does Texas invest in Airbnb? Also, will be interesting to see what happens when Airbnb goes public. Will Texas state pension funds avoid all funds that include it?

It just sounds like "We wont invest in something we weren't investing in anyway but we're now not investing in them because Israel!"
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Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:00 pm


Spoiler:
Declaration by the High Representative @FedericaMog on behalf of the EU on the #GolanHeights:

The position of the EU has not changed. The EU does not recognise Israeli sovereignty over the occupied Golan Heights.

Full text: https://europa.eu/!Th47uu
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Post by Holman » Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:48 pm

Netanyahu, campaigning, claims that Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews until the Mufti of Jerusalem convinced him to.

This old view is a fringe theory rejected by legitimate historians. It's widely regarded as a ploy to blame Muslims for the Nazi Holocaust.
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Post by Holman » Sat Apr 06, 2019 10:11 pm

Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.

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Post by Kurth » Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:10 am

Holman wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:48 pm
Netanyahu, campaigning, claims that Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews until the Mufti of Jerusalem convinced him to.

This old view is a fringe theory rejected by legitimate historians. It's widely regarded as a ploy to blame Muslims for the Nazi Holocaust.
Interesting. I’ve heard and read this so many times, I’ve always taken it to be true. I didn’t know it was a fringe theory. I’ll have to look into it.
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Post by Alefroth » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:35 pm

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I'd like to see the reactions from the people he was addressing. I'm sure this will get as much attention as Ilhan Omar's statements did.

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Post by Alefroth » Mon Apr 08, 2019 3:47 pm

Another beauty from that speech.



I guess his dad is from wherever he needs him to be.

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Post by El Guapo » Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:22 pm

Kurth wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:10 am
Holman wrote:
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:48 pm
Netanyahu, campaigning, claims that Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews until the Mufti of Jerusalem convinced him to.

This old view is a fringe theory rejected by legitimate historians. It's widely regarded as a ploy to blame Muslims for the Nazi Holocaust.
Interesting. I’ve heard and read this so many times, I’ve always taken it to be true. I didn’t know it was a fringe theory. I’ll have to look into it.
My understanding is that the Grand Mufti was anti-Semitic in the extreme, to the point of supporting the Holocaust and being chummy with Hitler. The idea that Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews until the Grand Mufti talked him into it is pretty silly, however.

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Post by Defiant » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:12 pm

GANTZ VS. NETANYAHU: UNLCEAR WHO WON AS EXIT POLLS ARE RELEASED

One exit poll gives Gantz's party a 4 seat margin of victory, the other has them tied.

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Post by El Guapo » Wed Apr 10, 2019 10:41 am

Stories this morning are saying that Gantz and Netanyahu's parties are pretty neck-and-neck, but that the right-wing bloc is likely to wind up with significantly more seats overall (something like a 65-55 right wing majority), so that it's likely that Netanyahu will be retained as prime minister. This is pretty consistent with the exit polling. Some things that are still up in the air is which of Gantz and Netanyahu's parties will have more seats, and who the Israeli president will ask to take the first crack at forming a governing coalition. Also negotiations over that coalition are likely to be intense (since small parties will be essential and so will have a lot of leverage). There's also some suspicion that Netanyahu will trade West Bank annexations for a law retroactively immunizing him from prosecution as part of the coalition deals.

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