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I'm surprised we don't have a thread on the QAnon madness sweeping MAGAland.

Signs are that it is getting more rather than less traction.



An introduction for those unfamiliar with the phenomenon:
QAnon is a sprawling, shifting conspiracy theory that began life as an ultra-fringe concoction in the online message boards beloved of the alt-right but is now present in more mainstream platforms such as Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and Reddit.

It is anchored in the baseless assertion that the all-seeing, all-powerful President Trump deliberately manipulated the Mueller investigation to target top Democratic politicians and Hollywood stars for their alleged involvement with pedophile rings, the "Deep State" and pharmaceutical companies aimed at enslaving the American people.

Followers believe that "Q," the alleged deep-throat highly-placed national security source, gradually reveals the extent of the conspiracy that is confirmed by a bizarre parsing of the president's own words.
The Q community believes that "the solution to the country’s problems is a brutal authoritarian crackdown against Trump’s enemies," View told me in a recent phone interview. At the same time, View notes, the Q community may just be attempting to bridge the ever-widening gap between what Trump supporters believed Trump would do and what he is actually doing.

It's a continuation of the "Lock her up!" chant at Trump rallies, when supporters hoped he would throw his opponents in jail - even execute them for treason. Rather than acknowledge the hyperbolic unreality behind Trump’s vitriol, the Q community simply maintained a narrative through-line, giving vent to their revenge fantasies and overcoming the cognitive dissonance that nothing of the sort has actually occurred.

The evocation of an eschatological break from perceived reality marks the basic essence of the Q phenomenon. There is a reckoning coming, referred to in places as the "reverse rapture": a revelation that means not only the end of the world but a new beginning. Constituents often withdraw from their lives and recount stories of fighting with their families over the existence of Q, anxiously awaiting the next "Q drop."
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Holman wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:15 pm
I'm surprised we don't have a thread on the QAnon madness sweeping MAGAland.
It's been touched on in other threads but probably needs its own.

I'm not sure how many actually believe the core tenants of Qanon vs. how many are just looking to belong to some movement that vaguely matches their worldview.
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Grand Rapids is absolutely shocking
Nope. Depressing? Yes. Shocking? No.

I can't speak to general prevalence. I also didn't even know Qanon was a thing until OO suggested it was.

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this is how religions are born?

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hitbyambulance wrote:
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this is how religions are born?
Only if the head honcho gets martyred.
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This thread title made me wonder who was quitting Q-anon.
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ImLawBoy wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:26 pm
This thread title made me wonder who was quitting Q-anon.
I just keep seeing this:

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The spot where that video ends is about how far the line stretched when I drove by at around 10:00 AM. By the time they opened the doors 6 hours later it was almost another mile down the street. Totally fucked up my commute home.

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Z-Corn wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:21 pm
Totally fucked up my commute home.
That's a small price to pay to be on the vanguard of the battle against the Deep State.
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LawBeefaroni wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:29 pm
ImLawBoy wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 2:26 pm
This thread title made me wonder who was quitting Q-anon.
I just keep seeing this:

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Changed "Qult" to "Cult" because it was giving me a headache.

I figure the odds are good that Trump, who never misses a chance to take credit, starts dropping little hints at rallies that "the people out there making sense of the Deep State are onto something, wish I could say more!"
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Grand Rapids is the reason the rest of the state can't have nice things.

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The fun/scary question is "Who is Q?" (or, really, who is in a position to post as "Q"?)

Somebody is, and he or she has a huge following. Whoever it is, they've got incredible influence in the Deplorablesphere.

The True Believers buy that Q is a highly-placed Trump administration officer (probably someone we've never even heard of, because Top Secret) tasked with apprising the Trump faithful of the progress of the eventual purge that will save America from Obama loyalists, Clinton partisans, Hollywood libruls, Feminazis, treasonous intellectuals, secret Muslims, voter frauds, and other non-White non-Right non-Americans. The drama they're expecting is one of mass arrests, literally in the tens of thousands.

The most plausible theory (based on the origins of the phenom) is that Q is a 4chan or other shitposter (or a cabal of them) who has crafted the greatest hoax in internet history.

If so, we're looking at a home-grown social-media propaganda operation to rival the Russians' own. It's kind of terrifying to believe that this is possible, but it's impossible not to.

We definitely weren't ready for what the internet can do to us. We never were, and probably never could be.
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Holman wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:01 pm
The fun/scary question is "Who is Q?" (or, really, who is in a position to post as "Q"?)

Somebody is, and he or she has a huge following. Whoever it is, they've got incredible influence in the Deplorablesphere.

The True Believers buy that Q is a highly-placed Trump administration officer (probably someone we've never even heard of, because Top Secret) tasked with apprising the Trump faithful of the progress of the eventual purge that will save America from Obama loyalists, Clinton partisans, Hollywood libruls, Feminazis, treasonous intellectuals, secret Muslims, voter frauds, and other non-White non-Right non-Americans. The drama they're expecting is one of mass arrests, literally in the tens of thousands.

The most plausible theory (based on the origins of the phenom) is that Q is a 4chan or other shitposter (or a cabal of them) who has crafted the greatest hoax in internet history.

If so, we're looking at a home-grown social-media propaganda operation to rival the Russians' own. It's kind of terrifying to believe that this is possible, but it's impossible not to.

We definitely weren't ready for what the internet can do to us. We never were, and probably never could be.
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Fascinating deep dive into QAnon at The Atlantic. Long and worth the read.
QAnon is emblematic of modern America’s susceptibility to conspiracy theories, and its enthusiasm for them. But it is also already much more than a loose collection of conspiracy-minded chat-room inhabitants. It is a movement united in mass rejection of reason, objectivity, and other Enlightenment values. And we are likely closer to the beginning of its story than the end. The group harnesses paranoia to fervent hope and a deep sense of belonging. The way it breathes life into an ancient preoccupation with end-times is also radically new. To look at QAnon is to see not just a conspiracy theory but the birth of a new religion.
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The Oregon GOP just held its primary for US senate. In her victory speech, the winner declared her allegiance to QAnon.
Republican Jo Rae Perkins, now the official challenger to Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) in November, acknowledged her Tuesday night primary win with a proclamation of her solidarity with acolytes of the QAnon conspiracy theory.

“Where we go one, we go all,” she says in a Twitter video, brandishing a “#WWG1WG” sticker with the group’s motto in hashtag form.

“I stand with President Trump, I stand with Q and the team,” she continues. “Thank you anons and thank you patriots. And together, we can save our republic.”
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I've got quite a few family members who are all-in on the Q stupidity.

It's fascinating to watch how they can twist every bit of information to fit into the overarching narrative of Trump as a hero who is unmasking the corrupt "deep state". The conspiracy is so large, so vast, and so flexible that there's literally nothing that takes place with any government in the world that won't fit into it somehow.
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I have a former coworker who is all in on Q, and I just can't fathom it. None of the things being proved untrue phases him at all. Not the fact that Comet Pizza doesn't have a basement, not the fact that Muller didn't somehow work with Trump to bring down the deep state, nothing. At least some cultists snap out of it when the date for the rapture comes and goes.

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gbasden wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:32 pm
At least some cultists snap out of it when the date for the rapture comes and goes.
They don't, though.

I hope this won't offend anyone, but it's worth remembering that the Seventh Day Adventists began with the prophecy that Jesus would return on October 22, 1844. A multitude of scriptural justifications were offered for this truth. In what is called "the Great Disappointment," it did not come to pass.

Today there are 25 million Seventh Day Adventists.
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I had a co-worker who was all in on the Q-Anon stuff. He was a nice guy, but over the years I knew him he got further and further disconnected from reality. By the end I didn't feel comfortable being near him.

I had to sit through multiple lectures about how this Q guys is really smart and is correctly predicting everything.

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Oddly enough, even my Trumper coworkers don’t buy into the Q stuff. At least as far as I know.
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Is ironic the right word to use here in that if rapture did in fact come then people like these Q folks would be the ones left behind to suffer?
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Oh hey look: Michael Flynn is QAnon.



(I guess he would be a fool to let the grift pass him by.)
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That dress though.

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Meet QAnon Karen... She walked into Target and filmed herself dumping every facemask on display to the ground, claimed Trump sent her, claims to be wearing a $40K Rolex Watch, claims to be a QAnon spokesperson... and basically rants incoherently to the staff, then left.

She then filmed the cops who went to her home and arrested her.
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gbasden wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 6:32 pm
I have a former coworker who is all in on Q, and I just can't fathom it. None of the things being proved untrue phases him at all. Not the fact that Comet Pizza doesn't have a basement, not the fact that Muller didn't somehow work with Trump to bring down the deep state, nothing. At least some cultists snap out of it when the date for the rapture comes and goes.
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Kasey Chang wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:45 pm
Meet QAnon Karen... She walked into Target and filmed herself dumping every facemask on display to the ground, claimed Trump sent her, claims to be wearing a $40K Rolex Watch, claims to be a QAnon spokesperson... and basically rants incoherently to the staff, then left.

She then filmed the cops who went to her home and arrested her.
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It's classified. Call Trump, I work for him. He'll tell you. I'm wired for Trump. Millions of people are watching you. I'm wired on Instagram.

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Holman wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:21 am
Oh hey look: Michael Flynn is QAnon.



(I guess he would be a fool to let the grift pass him by.)
I realize that this is not the most important thing, but I want to know what's going on with the word bubble dress that the woman on the right is wearing. Is that a word bubble (or whatever it's called) derived from Trump's tweets, or something like that?

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