The Trump Impeachment Thread

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:19 pm

Fox host Chris Wallace tells Romney that his action means "this is war." Wallace: "Donald Trump will never forgive you for this." Romney replies by quoting from a hymn: “Do what is right. Let the consequence follow.”

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:20 pm

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:19 pm Now will anyone follow him, or was it just a calculated bid to not look like an idiot?

Check out the speech - it felt like a true moment of honesty. The calculation that I saw was that he didn't cast a net outward from himself onto the rest of his fellow Senators.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:21 pm

Well, now no matter how Manchin votes, Trump can say the vote was bipartisan!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:21 pm

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:19 pm Now will anyone follow him, or was it just a calculated bid to not look like an idiot?

I doubt that anyone will follow him. I think this is a matter of principle and belief for Romney, to his credit. I don't know if Gardner has said - he might have some electoral reasons to vote to convict at this point, but I very much doubt that he will.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:22 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:21 pm Well, now no matter how Manchin votes, Trump can say the vote was bipartisan!

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:24 pm

Roman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:15 pm I got excited about this until I learned that he is a DEM.

How is this big news? I mean wasn't it a given that all DEMs would vote YEA?

No, not for Dems in red states.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:24 pm

I wonder if all the shit Romney is going to get from Trump and other members of the GOP will force him out of the party (ala Justin Amash)? But pretty awesome that the 2012 GOP nominee for president just voted to convict the 2016 winner from his own party.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:27 pm

Kurth wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:16 pmGo, Mitt!

Agreed. He made me nervous when it seemed like he fell and I was torn when CPAC twittered him as an enemy with the exact picture meme democrats used to refer to him as Reek. Where he appears to be emoting, "how has it come to this? while sitting with POTUS" (They, of course, don't show POTUS)

No matter what came before or what comes after, thank you Mitt. It's you and Amash. Unlikely bedfellows, but thank you.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:29 pm

To be a fly on the wall when Mitch McConnell returns to his private quarters. I bet he's going pitch a fit over this.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:33 pm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:47 pm

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:29 pm To be a fly on the wall when Mitch McConnell returns to his private quarters. I bet he's going pitch a fit over this.

Trump will pitch a fit. Mitch will serenely declare that Romney has the right to be wrong and that this proves beyond doubt that the trial was deliberate and fair.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:54 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:47 pmTrump will pitch a fit.

I think I read that he's already cancelled scheduled press events this afternoon. Is it wrong to hope for a stroke? It's probably wrong.

Mitch will serenely declare that Romney has the right to be wrong and that this proves beyond doubt that the trial was deliberate and fair.

He'll spin it in public somehow, yes. But in private? I have no doubt he's going to be enraged. Is it wrong to hope for a stroke here too? It's still probably wrong.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Is it wrong to hope for a stroke?

Spending time doing something you enjoy is never wrong.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:04 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Is it wrong to hope for a stroke?
Spending time doing something you enjoy is never wrong.

Both HR, the police and my attorneys have advised me otherwise.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:24 pm

In absolutely shocking news, invertebrate Senator Cory Gardner has no spine.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:36 pm

Sinema will convict. Only Manchin is left.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:41 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 pmSpending time doing something you enjoy is never wrong.

Plausible deniability is appreciated, thanks.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:41 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 3:55 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Is it wrong to hope for a stroke?
Spending time doing something you enjoy is never wrong.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:41 pm

I will say my personal approval rating of Romney has never been higher:

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:46 pm

Heads on pikes. Also pretty ballsy considering the trial is still in session. The danger is real.

Donald Trump Jr. calls for the Senate GOP to expel Romney from the conference.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:06 pm

McConnell just did his bit for democracy. Honestly defending the President! No I mean he got up and just lied and lied and lied. It could be used to induce vomiting. It was that toxic. I wouldn't mind watching Mitch McConnell stroke out but maybe in a survivable way that leaves him trapped in his own brain unable to speak. That'd be nice.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:08 pm

malchior wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 4:36 pm Sinema will convict. Only Manchin is left.

Manchin just announced Yes on conviction.

Jaymon · Post by **Jaymon** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:09 pm

quid pro quo in action. vote for me in the impeachment trial, or I will kick you out of the party.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:17 pm

Jaymon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:09 pm quid pro quo in action. vote for me in the impeachment trial, or I will kick you out of the party.

Doesn't matter. Soon that will no longer be illegal or impeachable.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:23 pm

Wow, the Red Hats here in Utah are seriously pissed at Mitt.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:39 pm

Well, it was a fun one, boys. Last one get the lights.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:43 pm

It's really painful that a mere 2 or 3 people were the difference in Trump not being removed.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:44 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:43 pm It's really painful that a mere 2 or 3 people were the difference in Trump not being removed.

Needed 67 to remove him. Was never going to happen.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:51 pm

He is unleashed - we have ourselves a king.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:55 pm

Time to stockpile ammo and good, comfortable shoes.

On the plus side we have concise list of soulless sellouts for posterity. One can only hope that we are around long enough for their grandchildren to curse their names.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:58 pm

And he is off already!

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:02 pm

Yeah, at this point I'm basically hoping that he dies. That's the only immediate fix to the immediate existential problem (most cults do not survive intact the death of their leader). Trumpism will still outlast Trump, but it's much easier to stomp it into the mud when Trump is no longer around. And for that matter, McConnell is welcome to drop dead too.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:11 pm

gilraen wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:02 pm Yeah, at this point I'm basically hoping that he dies. That's the only immediate fix to the immediate existential problem (most cults do not survive intact the death of their leader). Trumpism will still outlast Trump, but it's much easier to stomp it into the mud when Trump is no longer around. And for that matter, McConnell is welcome to drop dead too.

The next Trumpist will be slicker and smarter at hiding things, and the norms and guardrails will already be gone.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:15 pm

Unfortunately the most likely outcome. The GOP has been working towards this point on its own pre-Trump. He just was able to wrestle the ball away in a heavily divided field. It is going to be a long year.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:22 pm

I'm still kinda hoping Pelosi announces the next round of impeachment charges tonight or first thing tomorrow morning.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:28 pm

Nadler has stated that he plans to subpoena Bolton....

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:56 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:44 pm
Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 5:43 pm It's really painful that a mere 2 or 3 people were the difference in Trump not being removed.
Needed 67 to remove him. Was never going to happen.

D'oh! Yep, that's right. Doesn't hurt so bad now.

stimpy · Post by **stimpy** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:58 pm

If the Dems continue with going down the Impeachment road on these issues, it will not bode well for them.
Right or wrong, I have a feeling the general public is tired of their insistence on pursuing this.
Give him time. He'll do something else you can try and nail him on.
But this train has now left the station......

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:11 pm

stimpy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:58 pm If the Dems continue with going down the Impeachment road on these issues, it will not bode well for them.
Right or wrong, I have a feeling the general public is tired of their insistence on pursuing this.
Give him time. He'll do something else you can try and nail him on.
But this train has now left the station......

There is plenty still that he doesn't have to do something else, but he we probably will intentionally just to get that outcome.

Jolor · Post by **Jolor** » Wed Feb 05, 2020 7:15 pm

So, more R believe he asked Ukraine to investigate a political revival in return for releasing defense funding than believed that he obstructed Congress? With no witnesses allowed, documents released, and the decision to acquit broadcast/mandated before the trial? Really?