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stessier wrote:
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Our governor said his Superintendent would not approve any school plan without a face to face option.
The only acceptable "face to face" option would involve a bunch of masked students six feet apart in the open baseball field or parking lot with a teacher using bullhorns shouting instructions.
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At this point, it really doesn't matter where he got it. Instead the takeaway should be that his vocal opposition to masks likely contributed to his exposure in some way.
I am sorry he died, every life lost to this pandemic is terrible, but he was immuno-compromised due to him being treated for cancer. He was an idiot for not wearing a mask, and an even bigger idiot for going to the Trump rally. Some times you really do reap what you sow.
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Kasey Chang wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:03 pm
stessier wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:40 pm
Our governor said his Superintendent would not approve any school plan without a face to face option.
The only acceptable "face to face" option would involve a bunch of masked students six feet apart in the open baseball field or parking lot with a teacher using bullhorns shouting instructions.
All teachers will be replaced by marching band directors.

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Isgrimnur wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:46 pm
Kasey Chang wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:03 pm
stessier wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:40 pm
Our governor said his Superintendent would not approve any school plan without a face to face option.
The only acceptable "face to face" option would involve a bunch of masked students six feet apart in the open baseball field or parking lot with a teacher using bullhorns shouting instructions.
All teachers will be replaced by marching band directors.
And we shall call them the Orange Pioneers.
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Isgrimnur wrote:
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All teachers will be replaced by marching band directors.
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Not in this timeline.

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Anyone else see this one? Very popular on The Facebooks -https://c19study.com/ supposedly showing that Hydroxy is actually a CURE! C'mon sheeple! The whois was illuminating in that it was not at all illuminating.

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You mean Contact Privacy Inc. Customer for your domain registration doesn't lend to your credibility?

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LordMortis wrote:
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You mean Contact Privacy Inc. Customer for your domain registration doesn't lend to your credibility?
It may as well have been Honestly Not A Russian Front Inc.

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stessier wrote:I feel bad for his wife and kids. No one deserves to go out that way.
Personally I feel worse for the health care workers who had to take care of his sorry ass and who put themselves at risk treating him and people like him.

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raydude wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:43 pm
stessier wrote:I feel bad for his wife and kids. No one deserves to go out that way.
Personally I feel worse for the health care workers who had to take care of his sorry ass and who put themselves at risk treating him and people like him.
And the service workers, in general, who were put in danger because of his arrogance and willingness to participate in spreading that willfully ignorant risk. There are very few people I wish the virus on, Cain wasn't one of them. But asking me for sympathy is a stretch I can't make at this point.

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Formix wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:03 pm
Anyone else see this one? Very popular on The Facebooks -https://c19study.com/ supposedly showing that Hydroxy is actually a CURE! C'mon sheeple! The whois was illuminating in that it was not at all illuminating.
Someone on FB cited this page. But I don't know know who puts it together (I tried searching online, but no luck), don't know their qualifications, and don't know if these studies really prove what they say they do. So it's impossible to know.

Ok, I just randomly selected one study and it is clear that these are being misused. The study was NOT about the use of hydroxychloroquine, but it was looking at the susceptibility of rheumatoid arthritis patients to Covid-19. It noted that many such patients get hydroxy for treatment and it noted that those who do seemed to do better (an observational study). But it specifically noted the following:
We found that the rate of symptomatic COVID-19 was lower in patients taking hydroxychloroquine than in patients taking other DMARDs. Notably, however, the benefits of hydroxychloroquine were observed in comparison with other immunosuppressive medications in patients with rheumatic diseases and so these findings are not generalisable to patients who do not require immunosuppression.
So, no, I would not trust this site.
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/Mal: but...but... ah never mind.

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Skinypupy wrote:
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He was so close!

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When this is all over, there needs to be an accounting and people need to answer for their deeds:
Most troubling of all, perhaps, was a sentiment the expert said a member of Kushner’s team expressed: that because the virus had hit blue states hardest, a national plan was unnecessary and would not make sense politically. “The political folks believed that because it was going to be relegated to Democratic states, that they could blame those governors, and that would be an effective political strategy,” said the expert.

That logic may have swayed Kushner. “It was very clear that Jared was ultimately the decision maker as to what [plan] was going to come out,” the expert said.
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The very definition of depraved indifference.

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We need a word to describe the smoothly botoxed inhumanity of faces like Kushner's and Zuckerberg's.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.

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Assuming the Democrats gain control, I really hope there is an investigation of Trump's response to the virus - along with many other things.
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The idea of Kushner being in charge of the vaccination rollout strategy should scare anyone.
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I truly don't know if any of this matters anymore. Just look at any of your friends/family who are Trumpaloos. There have been 4 years of facts culminating in a crashing economy and at this point 150,000 dead Americans. They're still "on the train". I do not believe there will ever be a meaningful reckoning or admission by anyone. I feel like we're so fractured at this point it would be better to leave investigations and admonitions behind, and whenever more sane heads prevail, just move forward. Spend zero energy on the past.

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Formix wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 am
I truly don't know if any of this matters anymore. Just look at any of your friends/family who are Trumpaloos. There have been 4 years of facts culminating in a crashing economy and at this point 150,000 dead Americans. They're still "on the train". I do not believe there will ever be a meaningful reckoning or admission by anyone. I feel like we're so fractured at this point it would be better to leave investigations and admonitions behind, and whenever more sane heads prevail, just move forward. Spend zero energy on the past.
I like the idea but the problem is that they can not leave it in the past. In fact, that is where they culturally live. They dig through the ashes of the past digging up 'failures' and throwing in the path to the future.

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Formix wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 am
Spend zero energy on the past.
That's a hard pass from me. This needs to never happen again and those that had anything to do with how we got to this point need to be dragged into the spotlight and held to account.

Unrelated, what the hell is happening in Utah?
Utah students will be allowed to go to school even if they’ve been directly exposed to COVID-19, according to new guidelines released Thursday by the state health department.

Under what officials are calling “a modified quarantine,” parents will be given the choice to keep children home or send them back to class after close contact with the contagious virus — which they can do as long as the student is not showing any symptoms and no one in the immediate household has tested positive. Teachers and staff, too, can continue to come to work with the same rules, especially in cases where there are no substitutes available.
Have we not been hammering the idea that there's a window of time between when you're exposed and when you're clinically ill that you can (and likely are) spread the virus while appearing healthy?

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Fauci issued warning that Ohio and Indiana may become very very bad in the way Florida and Texas went bad. I feel boxed in. :(
Do you suppose it would be a bad thing to call up the National Guard and post them along our entire Southern border to prevent entry? :P
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Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:41 am
Unrelated, what the hell is happening in Utah?
A whole lot of assholes screaming "YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!", basically.

It's infuriating.
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Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:41 am
Formix wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:14 am
Spend zero energy on the past.
That's a hard pass from me. This needs to never happen again and those that had anything to do with how we got to this point need to be dragged into the spotlight and held to account.

Unrelated, what the hell is happening in Utah?
Utah students will be allowed to go to school even if they’ve been directly exposed to COVID-19, according to new guidelines released Thursday by the state health department.

Under what officials are calling “a modified quarantine,” parents will be given the choice to keep children home or send them back to class after close contact with the contagious virus — which they can do as long as the student is not showing any symptoms and no one in the immediate household has tested positive. Teachers and staff, too, can continue to come to work with the same rules, especially in cases where there are no substitutes available.
Have we not been hammering the idea that there's a window of time between when you're exposed and when you're clinically ill that you can (and likely are) spread the virus while appearing healthy?
Maybe they do get it. They give the parents a choice. Keep Johnny Petri and his potential COVID in the house 24-7 or send him out for several hours each day while you fumigate. Remember, time of exposure is a factor.

Ok, maybe not.





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Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:41 am
Utah students will be allowed to go to school even if they’ve been directly exposed to COVID-19, according to new guidelines released Thursday by the state health department.

Under what officials are calling “a modified quarantine,” parents will be given the choice to keep children home or send them back to class after close contact with the contagious virus — which they can do as long as the student is not showing any symptoms and no one in the immediate household has tested positive. Teachers and staff, too, can continue to come to work with the same rules, especially in cases where there are no substitutes available.
How are you an educational professional in that environment? Kids pulled out for being directly exposed, all the other kids have the option to remain and educational staff must continue?

(I know it's paranoia but it sure does feel like there is a strong intentional effort to break public schools. Like there is seizing of opportunity going on)

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LordMortis wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:12 pm
Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:41 am
Utah students will be allowed to go to school even if they’ve been directly exposed to COVID-19, according to new guidelines released Thursday by the state health department.

Under what officials are calling “a modified quarantine,” parents will be given the choice to keep children home or send them back to class after close contact with the contagious virus — which they can do as long as the student is not showing any symptoms and no one in the immediate household has tested positive. Teachers and staff, too, can continue to come to work with the same rules, especially in cases where there are no substitutes available.
How are you an educational professional in that environment? Kids pulled out for being directly exposed, all the other kids have the option to remain and educational staff must continue?

(I know it's paranoia but it sure does feel like there is a strong intentional effort to break public schools. Like there is seizing of opportunity going on)
Pretty sure this would break within a few weeks either because the teacher's union goes on strike, or there are simply not enough healthy teachers left to keep the schools open.

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(I know it's paranoia but it sure does feel like there is a strong intentional effort to break public schools. Like there is seizing of opportunity going on)
DeVos and her charter cronies are absolutely salivating.
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gilraen wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:17 pm
LordMortis wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:12 pm
Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 11:41 am
Utah students will be allowed to go to school even if they’ve been directly exposed to COVID-19, according to new guidelines released Thursday by the state health department.

Under what officials are calling “a modified quarantine,” parents will be given the choice to keep children home or send them back to class after close contact with the contagious virus — which they can do as long as the student is not showing any symptoms and no one in the immediate household has tested positive. Teachers and staff, too, can continue to come to work with the same rules, especially in cases where there are no substitutes available.
How are you an educational professional in that environment? Kids pulled out for being directly exposed, all the other kids have the option to remain and educational staff must continue?

(I know it's paranoia but it sure does feel like there is a strong intentional effort to break public schools. Like there is seizing of opportunity going on)
Pretty sure this would break within a few weeks either because the teacher's union goes on strike, or there are simply not enough healthy teachers left to keep the schools open.
Utah Educators Association was already leaning that direction before this guidance came out. I can only imagine that will accelerate that discussion.
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State won't collect, release data on coronavirus cases in Tennessee schools.

Problem solved - there won't be any reported coronavirus cases in TN schools! How hard is that, you egghead libs?

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El Guapo wrote:
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State won't collect, release data on coronavirus cases in Tennessee schools.

Problem solved - there won't be any reported coronavirus cases in TN schools! How hard is that, you egghead libs?
You should feel lucky we are even giving you schools you damn beggars!
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South Korea is kicking our ass at containing COVID-19. We have more cases in one day right now then they have cumulatively. Here's an article that tries to look at what they are doing that is working.
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I'm sure this will go over well when it's finally released:


NEW from CDC: #COVID19 outbreak at an overnight camp in Georgia infects *at least* 260 campers & staff.
-51% of positives 6-10yo
-44% 11-17 yo
-Camp required a test <12 days before arriving & attempted "pods"
-Masks required for staff but NOT campers
-*Out of 597 campers & staff, 344 were tested and 76% of those tests were positive
-26% positives report no symptoms
-Bottom line from @CDCgov
: Children of *all* ages are susceptible to #SARSCOV2 & "might play an important role in transmission"

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Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:17 pm
I'm sure this will go over well when it's finally released:


NEW from CDC: #COVID19 outbreak at an overnight camp in Georgia infects *at least* 260 campers & staff.
-51% of positives 6-10yo
-44% 11-17 yo
-Camp required a test <12 days before arriving & attempted "pods"
-Masks required for staff but NOT campers
-*Out of 597 campers & staff, 344 were tested and 76% of those tests were positive
-26% positives report no symptoms
-Bottom line from @CDCgov
: Children of *all* ages are susceptible to #SARSCOV2 & "might play an important role in transmission"

Do you know where I would look for the report when it is online? My boss is part of a group trying to put together a boy scout gathering and I think this would help his cause to shut it down.
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Smoove_B wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 1:17 pm
I'm sure this will go over well when it's finally released:


NEW from CDC: #COVID19 outbreak at an overnight camp in Georgia infects *at least* 260 campers & staff.
-51% of positives 6-10yo
-44% 11-17 yo
-Camp required a test <12 days before arriving & attempted "pods"
-Masks required for staff but NOT campers
-*Out of 597 campers & staff, 344 were tested and 76% of those tests were positive
-26% positives report no symptoms
-Bottom line from @CDCgov
: Children of *all* ages are susceptible to #SARSCOV2 & "might play an important role in transmission"
Shouldn't have tested. Then no one would have it.
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Must have been embargoed until 1pm EST. Thanks for the assist!

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Do you know where I would look for the report when it is online? My boss is part of a group trying to put together a boy scout gathering and I think this would help his cause to shut it down.
If this doesn't give him pause, I don't know what could.
These findings demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 spread efficiently in a youth-centric overnight setting, resulting in high attack rates among persons in all age groups, despite efforts by camp officials to implement most recommended strategies to prevent transmission. Asymptomatic infection was common and potentially contributed to undetected transmission, as has been previously reported (1–4). This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection (1–3) and, contrary to early reports (5,6), might play an important role in transmission (7,8). The multiple measures adopted by the camp were not sufficient to prevent an outbreak in the context of substantial community transmission. Relatively large cohorts sleeping in the same cabin and engaging in regular singing and cheering likely contributed to transmission (9). Use of cloth masks, which has been shown to reduce the risk for infection (10), was not universal. An ongoing investigation will further characterize specific exposures associated with infection, illness course, and any secondary transmission to household members. Physical distancing and consistent and correct use of cloth masks should be emphasized as important strategies for mitigating transmission in congregate settings.

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Remus West wrote:
Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:01 pm
Fauci issued warning that Ohio and Indiana may become very very bad in the way Florida and Texas went bad. I feel boxed in. :(
Do you suppose it would be a bad thing to call up the National Guard and post them along our entire Southern border to prevent entry? :P
While Indiana's numbers are getting worse, the ICU capacity has been holding. It looks like admissions are 1/3 of peak and the numbers in hospital are 1/2 of peak. I do see more people wearing masks - but I still see stupid.
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