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Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:10 pm
Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:20 pm
This really is a huge deal, and possibly effectively a death blow for Parler. Moving off of AWS is likely not to be trivial for them, and that's if they can even find a suitable alternative in under a day.

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Parler works in a browser. I mean if they lose AWS they're screwed but losing app stores doesn't kill it.
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Shenanigans ahoy in Georgia?

New U.S. attorney in Atlanta brings in assistants who worked on election-fraud issues, raising fears of political interference
The top federal prosecutor in Savannah, Ga. — whom President Trump recently tapped to take over the U.S. attorney’s office in Atlanta — has brought to his new assignment two assistants previously tasked with monitoring possible election fraud, raising fears that he might be taking steps to lend credibility to Trump’s baseless claims of electoral malfeasance, people familiar with the matter said.

The move by U.S. Attorney Bobby Christine in the waning days of the Trump administration follows unusual events this week in the federal prosecutor offices in Atlanta and Savannah that have fueled suspicions among legal observers of political interference in law enforcement work.

On Monday, Byung J. “BJay” Pak, whom Trump had appointed as the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia in 2017, unexpectedly told colleagues he was stepping down. On Tuesday, officials announced that Christine would take over for Pak, bypassing Pak’s top deputy, who otherwise might have moved into the job by default.

Then, Christine tapped two assistant U.S. attorneys in the Southern District of Georgia — Joshua S. Bearden and Jason Blanchard — for some type of work in the Northern District, people familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s political sensitivity. Their task is unclear, but Christine had recently assigned both to serve as district election officers reviewing complaints of election fraud and voting rights abuses.
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Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:41 pm I think her point is that it's not likely going to Google or Microsoft, and will likely therefore end up at a host that's a major step down in ancillary services and overall security posture.

And just wait until it does emerge elsewhere, and Comcast/AT&T/VZW/etc decide to stop routing traffic to it. Sure is a shame we don't have net neutrality anymore, eh?
You figure everyone is afraid of section 230 and becoming responsible the content of the unpredictably violent and the insurrectionist.

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Max Peck wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:04 am Shenanigans ahoy in Georgia?

New U.S. attorney in Atlanta brings in assistants who worked on election-fraud issues, raising fears of political interference
The top federal prosecutor in Savannah, Ga. — whom President Trump recently tapped to take over the U.S. attorney’s office in Atlanta — has brought to his new assignment two assistants previously tasked with monitoring possible election fraud, raising fears that he might be taking steps to lend credibility to Trump’s baseless claims of electoral malfeasance, people familiar with the matter said.

The move by U.S. Attorney Bobby Christine in the waning days of the Trump administration follows unusual events this week in the federal prosecutor offices in Atlanta and Savannah that have fueled suspicions among legal observers of political interference in law enforcement work.

On Monday, Byung J. “BJay” Pak, whom Trump had appointed as the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia in 2017, unexpectedly told colleagues he was stepping down. On Tuesday, officials announced that Christine would take over for Pak, bypassing Pak’s top deputy, who otherwise might have moved into the job by default.

Then, Christine tapped two assistant U.S. attorneys in the Southern District of Georgia — Joshua S. Bearden and Jason Blanchard — for some type of work in the Northern District, people familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s political sensitivity. Their task is unclear, but Christine had recently assigned both to serve as district election officers reviewing complaints of election fraud and voting rights abuses.
Can you imagine if they report: Woah, woah, woah, stop the presses! We found definitive evidence that Hugo Chavez reanimated just long enough to print 11,780 ballots for Biden!
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LordMortis wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:07 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:41 pm I think her point is that it's not likely going to Google or Microsoft, and will likely therefore end up at a host that's a major step down in ancillary services and overall security posture.

And just wait until it does emerge elsewhere, and Comcast/AT&T/VZW/etc decide to stop routing traffic to it. Sure is a shame we don't have net neutrality anymore, eh?
You figure everyone is afraid of section 230 and becoming responsible the content of the unpredictably violent and the insurrectionist.
Eh. Not really. Sec 230 protects them from these problems. These businesses are more afraid of the business risk of an insurgency being seen to be linked to their platforms. Sort of how businesses are finally cutting ties to Trump. Revolution is bad for business. At worst the platforms would be swamped with law enforcement serving warrants which is a minor time suck normally. More than a few and it becomes a big time suck; those type of investigations don't scale very well.
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Jaymann wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:10 am
Max Peck wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:04 am Shenanigans ahoy in Georgia?

New U.S. attorney in Atlanta brings in assistants who worked on election-fraud issues, raising fears of political interference
The top federal prosecutor in Savannah, Ga. — whom President Trump recently tapped to take over the U.S. attorney’s office in Atlanta — has brought to his new assignment two assistants previously tasked with monitoring possible election fraud, raising fears that he might be taking steps to lend credibility to Trump’s baseless claims of electoral malfeasance, people familiar with the matter said.

The move by U.S. Attorney Bobby Christine in the waning days of the Trump administration follows unusual events this week in the federal prosecutor offices in Atlanta and Savannah that have fueled suspicions among legal observers of political interference in law enforcement work.

On Monday, Byung J. “BJay” Pak, whom Trump had appointed as the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia in 2017, unexpectedly told colleagues he was stepping down. On Tuesday, officials announced that Christine would take over for Pak, bypassing Pak’s top deputy, who otherwise might have moved into the job by default.

Then, Christine tapped two assistant U.S. attorneys in the Southern District of Georgia — Joshua S. Bearden and Jason Blanchard — for some type of work in the Northern District, people familiar with the matter said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because of the matter’s political sensitivity. Their task is unclear, but Christine had recently assigned both to serve as district election officers reviewing complaints of election fraud and voting rights abuses.
Can you imagine if they report: Woah, woah, woah, stop the presses! We found definitive evidence that Hugo Chavez reanimated just long enough to print 11,780 ballots for Biden!
I'd love it because it literally wouldn't matter even if it wasn't cooked up! It'd just be crybaby Conservatives wailing and gnashing.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:55 pm
Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:10 pm
Zaxxon wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:20 pm
This really is a huge deal, and possibly effectively a death blow for Parler. Moving off of AWS is likely not to be trivial for them, and that's if they can even find a suitable alternative in under a day.

More commentary in this thread.

Parler works in a browser. I mean if they lose AWS they're screwed but losing app stores doesn't kill it.
Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
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( includes 2 R Reps and 2 R Senators)
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Wow, Forbes, Inc lays down a marker:

Corporations that hire Trump grifters for public relations will be assumed by us to be dishonest and subject to additional scrutiny and review when evaluating corporate statements:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllan ... ssion=true
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I hadn't seen this footage yet. They seem purposeful.

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Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
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Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
Apparently it just makes it unavailable for download. It doesn't remove it from those that have it.
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gbasden wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:59 am
Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
Apparently it just makes it unavailable for download. It doesn't remove it from those that have it.
That's what I thought, but I couldn't find confirmation anywhere. And with an Android, you could always sideload it from anywhere.
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Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:40 am
gbasden wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:59 am
Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
Apparently it just makes it unavailable for download. It doesn't remove it from those that have it.
That's what I thought, but I couldn't find confirmation anywhere. And with an Android, you could always sideload it from anywhere.
Then again think about how many times apps get updated and then wonder how Parler will push updates and bug fixes now.
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Dash of salt required but I feel like Garland should launch a massive investigation and publish a public report of Trump-era abuses at DOJ.

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Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

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Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:40 am
gbasden wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:59 am
Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
Apparently it just makes it unavailable for download. It doesn't remove it from those that have it.
That's what I thought, but I couldn't find confirmation anywhere. And with an Android, you could always sideload it from anywhere.
Installed or not, the current releases everywhere will stop functioning tonight and require an update if/when Parler moves to a new host.

Yes, it's possible to sideload a new release to Android, and even iOS for those that are really persistent. But my point was/is that these issues will definitely, 100% certainly, without any scrap of a doubt, drastically and permanently reduce the user base of Parler. That's how app ecosystems work.
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Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:51 am
Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:40 am
gbasden wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:59 am
Alefroth wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:40 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Does removing it from the app store just make it available no longer, or does it deactivate installed apps?
Apparently it just makes it unavailable for download. It doesn't remove it from those that have it.
That's what I thought, but I couldn't find confirmation anywhere. And with an Android, you could always sideload it from anywhere.
Installed or not, the current releases everywhere will stop functioning tonight and require an update if/when Parler moves to a new host.

Yes, it's possible to sideload a new release to Android, and even iOS for those that are really persistent. But my point was/is that these issues will definitely, 100% certainly, without any scrap of a doubt, drastically and permanently reduce the user base of Parler. That's how app ecosystems work.
True but its possible to consider this a particular edge case. Will user base go down? Probably but opposing that is the high likelihood that these folks desperately want to get their communication networks back up. Especially before Jan 20. Though I would make a small bet that Parler won't be back in time anyway.
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Some of their base, sure. But these folks aren't magically all technologically-savvy or different from the populace at large when it comes to this stuff. It's a huge blow.
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PGA Will strip 2022 PGA Champs from Trump Bedminster. Read that statement and weep about the crisis of legitimacy our country faces. They were worried about Trump sending the IRS after him. :cry:
“The odds that ’22′s PGA Championship will happen as scheduled in New Jersey are about as good as the chances of you or I winning it. Seth Waugh, the PGA of America’s CEO, was a banker and has an alert eye for high-risk exposure. He knows that Trumpism is likely to be an equally incendiary force in the ’22 midterm elections and that any affiliation is poisonous. Waugh will be forced to move the event and face down a small but vocal faction of his membership who remain true believers. Moving its major from Trump National has been debated internally at the PGA for more than two years, but executives have been reluctant to antagonize a famously vindictive man who controls the Internal Revenue Service. Such concerns melt away in 10 days, if not sooner.”
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The Nye County GOP is having a normal one. here’s a snippet, the whole thing is a doozy.
As I write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.
No amount of special commissions, investigations, or audits will ever convince these people otherwise.

I have often wondered if OO’s resident staunch conservatives (who no longer post in R&P) are buying into this shit.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:44 amNo amount of special commissions, investigations, or audits will ever convince these people otherwise.
It's almost like...a non-stop diet of propaganda coming from Fox news and social media have radicalized a portion of the population and turned them into a reality-denying cult that's hellbent on maintaining control.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:44 am The Nye County GOP is having a normal one. here’s a snippet, the whole thing is a doozy.
As I write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.
No amount of special commissions, investigations, or audits will ever convince these people otherwise.

I have often wondered if OO’s resident staunch conservatives (who no longer post in R&P) are buying into this shit.
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Looks like they either nuked it or their site is getting slammed. Here’s the whole thing spoilered because it’s quite long):
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write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.

We do well to remember that for more than four years Donald Trump has been five steps ahead of everyone in every attempt to derail him, impeach him, or confound him. For example, he announced on election night in the early hours of the morning that he “didn’t want a dump of ballots at 4AM.” What happened in just a few short hours at almost exactly 4AM? A huge ballot dump took place which showed that he already knew that it was going to take place. That was a public word to the enemies of our country that he was on to them. Also, consider the recent incident at the capitol building in DC. Trump was late to his speaking engagement and then spoke on a number of rehashed things to the crowd of 500K+ but this created a problem. You see, if Trump had spoken on time and briefly, the MAGA crowd would have been at the capitol building with the Antifa faction and likely would have been drawn into the fray by accident and confusion due to the crowd size. With Trump speaking late and long, the MAGA crowd was PROTECTED and SEPARATED from the Antifa groups. It would be very clear that the disguised Antifa people were 95%+ of the people in the building. Again, Trump countered because he was steps ahead of them. This was clearly a staged event meant to blame Trump supporters and try to frame Trump so the 25th amendment could be used by Congress but it failed. Nevermind the numerous videos showing the police opening the gates for Antifa (they didn’t fight their way in) and then leading them throughout the building.

I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.

Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.

I need to take a moment to speak on Pence. With his treason completed, many of you may not know of his dealings and political posturing prior to the infamous day in the capitol. Pence was already wheeling and dealing way back during the 2016 election season with…wait for it….Paul Ryan. Remember Ryan? The RINO speaker of the house? Look at these emails that were recently revealed:

Pence-Ryan Emails

Pence was also involved with a scheme to oust Trump sometime during his first four years that was orchestrated by Rod Rosenstein and supported by the Clintons. The plan: get rid of Trump, become president and then appoint Rod Rosenstein as the new VP. Why would they want that? Because they felt Pence could be controlled. See these links for the 3 part series for more information:

Part 1
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Part 3

More could be said but I don’t want this letter to become more of a book than it already is. Suffice it to say that when Trump said at the DC rally that he hoped Pence would do the right thing, he already knew what he was going to do but was, yet again, giving the man space to choose to do the right thing.

Now, nobody has been more supportive of Trump than Lin Wood. This man’s career has been fighting defamation lawsuits which means that he doesn’t say things, no matter how outrageous they may seem, without them being true as he knows the consequences of slander. With this in mind, Lin Wood has become a fountain of information and leaks of hitherto unknown information revealing some of the depths of corruption and evil in our highest offices. This is the same man who recently said that arrests are coming over the next few days. He called Pence a traitor well before the counting of the elector votes on the 6th. But did you know that he also said that the president, following the capitol incident, left DC on a “Doomsday” aircraft (used for communications in the event of a nuclear war) with his family and was in Abilene, TX. This aircraft was confirmed by both flight trackers and eyes on the ground. In short, he is a trustworthy source of information. If you have a means to follow Lin Wood on Parler, I would highly recommend that you do so to stay abreast of things taking place. You can also listen to this podcast: Podcast

So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:
Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

These things may happen out of the order listed and some may happen multiple times. As I have been watching closely, many things have been and are in play as we speak. Remember that Trump has not and will not give up. He actually takes his oath of office to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic very seriously. This is why they are so panicked in DC: they know that Trump will fight while Congress just rolls over.

I’ve mentioned this before but it bears repeating. None of us would have believed what we all now know except that Trump and his team have painstakingly taken the time to show the public. Want to show what Congress thinks of you? Highlight that the stimulus bill only sent $600 to each American but billions to other countries (payoffs, money laundering). Want to show the extent of collusion with the CCP at all levels of government? Bring multiple lawsuits against the election fraud from the local courts all the way to the Supreme Court which will show just how brazenly treasonous the judges are. Want the public to see how rigged the election system has been for many years? Present the evidence openly as we have seen. Even this week we have sworn testimony out of Italy that the Leonardo defense contractor used satellites to change the votes from our election in the USA from Italy. These Dominion voting machines were actively sending data to Germany, Serbia, China, Iran, and now Rome. This corruption is MUCH bigger than any of us expected but none of us would have believed it until now. This is why things seem to have taken so long.

Now, the American public is awake and ready to take back their long forgotten responsibilities to hold the elected officials accountable. I have heard from many of you how upset you are with the obvious and willful disregard for the truth and for justice.

As the days unfold, let’s maintain communications among ourselves and try to help our neighbor to understand what is happening. Turn off the television as they have demonstrated they are clearly only falsifying the media to maintain control over your thinking. Do not despair but pray for our country, for Trump and his supporters, and for a national repentance to be stirred nationwide.

The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:44 am The Nye County GOP is having a normal one. here’s a snippet, the whole thing is a doozy.
As I write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.
No amount of special commissions, investigations, or audits will ever convince these people otherwise.

I have often wondered if OO’s resident staunch conservatives (who no longer post in R&P) are buying into this shit.
I can’t wrap my head around how these people are going to handle January 20. That’s going to be a terrifying day.
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Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am

Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Parler is a clunky workaround for Twitter. Its users are already jumping through hoops of mild inconvenience. I don't think one more will suppress their quest for "freedom."

It will lower usage but it won't stop the bad actors and their followers.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:57 am
Zaxxon wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:29 am

Of course AWS is the bigger issue, but I think you underestimate the app store part. I mean Facebook and Twitter also work in the browser, but if their apps suddenly and semi-permanently stopped working you can bet your ass usage would suffer considerably.
Parler is a clunky workaround for Twitter. Its users are already jumping through hoops of mild inconvenience. I don't think one more will suppress their quest for "freedom."

It will lower usage but it won't stop the bad actors and their followers.
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wonderpug wrote:I can’t wrap my head around how these people are going to handle January 20. That’s going to be a terrifying day.
Yeah at this point we're dealing with a doomsday cult.

Those go one of two ways when the apocalypse fails to materialize. They either suffer despair and disappointment and drift their separate ways, or they make their own Armageddon. I fear we're looking at the latter.
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Another cop has died from the Capitol Insurrection.

A second United States Capitol Police Officer has died.
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He committed suicide as a result of the Capitol Insurrection?
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Unagi wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 1:06 pm He committed suicide as a result of the Capitol Insurrection?
Not much detail, but apparently he was assigned to guard the Senate. Who knows his state of mind, but it was likely not good.
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The perspective of Black Capitol Police Officers...
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YellowKing wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:05 pm
wonderpug wrote:I can’t wrap my head around how these people are going to handle January 20. That’s going to be a terrifying day.
Yeah at this point we're dealing with a doomsday cult.

Those go one of two ways when the apocalypse fails to materialize. They either suffer despair and disappointment and drift their separate ways, or they make their own Armageddon. I fear we're looking at the latter.
The latter is far more likely because they are bound by a political movement. That most Republicans went on to contest the election and have since refused to call out Trump are...just depressing. Maybe business leaders shunning them will get their attention. The problem they face is they've cast the die. Some might weigh that they have to go forward because they face oblivion if they don't succeed now.
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Both Pence and Biden called the family of murdered Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.

Trump has not.
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malchior wrote:"Marriott suspends political donations to GOP lawmakers who sided with Trump and objected to Biden's certification as president"
Good. That will probably be the best method of shutting these assholes down. Money as speech, starve the beast, etc.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Details keep coming out confirming that the assault was far worse than the “out of control tourism” Trumpers want you to think it was.

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Holman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:28 pm Both Pence and Biden called the family of murdered Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick.

Trump has not.
And the WH flag is not at half mast.

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Holman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:37 pm Details keep coming out confirming that the assault was far worse than the “out of control tourism” Trumpers want you to think it was.
Watching republicans try to completely rewrite history with blatant lies today is making my blood pressure spike significantly.
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Holman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:37 pm Details keep coming out confirming that the assault was far worse than the “out of control tourism” Trumpers want you to think it was.
Yeah narrative was stupid on the day of the event when pipe bombs were found around the Capitol. Then we saw the flexicuffs. And further video review shows groups in body armor moving through the crowd toward the Capitol entrance. This wasn't an organic event. Maybe not everyone was in on it but a lot of people could have been injured or killed on a different day.
Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:41 pm
Holman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:37 pm Details keep coming out confirming that the assault was far worse than the “out of control tourism” Trumpers want you to think it was.
Watching republicans try to completely rewrite history with blatant lies today is making my blood pressure spike significantly.
Same. I have been skeptical of them for a long time but thought they at least had limits. I knew they were extreme but thought they were just going to subvert within the system. That a President went beyond and the party is defending him still is galling.

Edit: That we have just 2 GOP Senators calling for him to resign is just insanity. They should have been pressing him on Wednesday night in great numbers. That is an indicator to me that chances are very high that this is out of control.
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