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Meanwhile, they have delayed again and now might vote on Tuesday for impeachment. What a show of resolve. :roll: :grund:

Edit: The plan if they do vote for impeachment is to delay sending it to the Senate no matter what. They don't want to hamstring the beginning of the Biden Presidency. Yeah because Republicans are going to be tripping over themselves to allow votes on Biden's top priorities. We'll see.
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It really doesn't matter when the Senate gets it, they are not going to vote to convict. They might get to 55 votes, but it will never go above that.
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stessier wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:57 pm It really doesn't matter when the Senate gets it, they are not going to vote to convict. They might get to 55 votes, but it will never go above that.
I don't disagree. What I'm more thinking about is that the Democratic leadership is just missing that this an emergency right now. They needed to send a strong message *Thursday* or *Friday*. Instead, they are playing the same old games and following the same failed playbooks.

Edit: This is also almost certainly a leadership issue because 195 of 222 House Democrats have signed onto the Articles of Impeachment that Raskin, Lieu, and Cicilline drew up. There is also a chance that they think or maybe even know they don't have the votes though I find that unlikely.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:36 pm
malchior wrote:"Marriott suspends political donations to GOP lawmakers who sided with Trump and objected to Biden's certification as president"
Good. That will probably be the best method of shutting these assholes down. Money as speech, starve the beast, etc.
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Corporate "free speech" not talking about the GOP is the thing most likely to heel the non believers, IMO. Of course grassroots donations will that in but that's less guns the donators are buying.
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Every new piece of footage is worse than the last. Jesus.

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malchior wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:02 pm
stessier wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:57 pm It really doesn't matter when the Senate gets it, they are not going to vote to convict. They might get to 55 votes, but it will never go above that.
I don't disagree. What I'm more thinking about is that the Democratic leadership is just missing that this an emergency right now. They needed to send a strong message *Thursday* or *Friday*. Instead, they are playing the same old games and following the same failed playbooks.

Pelosi had to prep for her 60 Minutes interview. If you don't get 60 Minutes, you don't get the nation. Also, the Diff'rent Strokes.. you can't be on the wrong side of a very special episode Diff'rent Strokes.
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I look forward to hearing Cruz bitching about a lack of campaign funds.
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I hope they're making enough key arrests and disrupting communications sufficiently to disrupt the riots coming next weekend, but this doesn't feel like something we can arrest our way out of.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:09 pm I look forward to hearing Cruz bitching about a lack of campaign funds.
Speaking of a lack of campaign funds, Stripe is out, too.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:09 pm I look forward to hearing Cruz bitching about a lack of campaign funds.
Or campaign staff.

Ted Cruz’s 2016 presidential campaign chair denounces him for ‘assault on our democracy’ after Capitol riot
Blowback for Sen. Ted Cruz’s efforts to derail President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, even after a mob stormed the Capitol, escalated dramatically Sunday when the chairman of his 2016 presidential campaign denounced him for abetting an “assault on our democracy.”

“Donald Trump and those who aided and abetted him in his relentless assault on our Democracy – including Senators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz – must be denounced,” wrote longtime Cruz friend Chad Sweet, a former CIA operative, investment banker and chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security. “In particular, I made it clear to Senator Cruz, whom I have known for years, before the Joint Session of Congress, that if he proceeded to object to the Electoral count of the legitimate slates of delegates certified by the States, I could no longer support him.”
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This is a significant shift, they don't even want to buy these fuckers.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:50 am Looks like they either nuked it or their site is getting slammed. Here’s the whole thing spoilered because it’s quite long):
Spoiler:
write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.

We do well to remember that for more than four years Donald Trump has been five steps ahead of everyone in every attempt to derail him, impeach him, or confound him. For example, he announced on election night in the early hours of the morning that he “didn’t want a dump of ballots at 4AM.” What happened in just a few short hours at almost exactly 4AM? A huge ballot dump took place which showed that he already knew that it was going to take place. That was a public word to the enemies of our country that he was on to them. Also, consider the recent incident at the capitol building in DC. Trump was late to his speaking engagement and then spoke on a number of rehashed things to the crowd of 500K+ but this created a problem. You see, if Trump had spoken on time and briefly, the MAGA crowd would have been at the capitol building with the Antifa faction and likely would have been drawn into the fray by accident and confusion due to the crowd size. With Trump speaking late and long, the MAGA crowd was PROTECTED and SEPARATED from the Antifa groups. It would be very clear that the disguised Antifa people were 95%+ of the people in the building. Again, Trump countered because he was steps ahead of them. This was clearly a staged event meant to blame Trump supporters and try to frame Trump so the 25th amendment could be used by Congress but it failed. Nevermind the numerous videos showing the police opening the gates for Antifa (they didn’t fight their way in) and then leading them throughout the building.

I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.

Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.

I need to take a moment to speak on Pence. With his treason completed, many of you may not know of his dealings and political posturing prior to the infamous day in the capitol. Pence was already wheeling and dealing way back during the 2016 election season with…wait for it….Paul Ryan. Remember Ryan? The RINO speaker of the house? Look at these emails that were recently revealed:

Pence-Ryan Emails

Pence was also involved with a scheme to oust Trump sometime during his first four years that was orchestrated by Rod Rosenstein and supported by the Clintons. The plan: get rid of Trump, become president and then appoint Rod Rosenstein as the new VP. Why would they want that? Because they felt Pence could be controlled. See these links for the 3 part series for more information:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

More could be said but I don’t want this letter to become more of a book than it already is. Suffice it to say that when Trump said at the DC rally that he hoped Pence would do the right thing, he already knew what he was going to do but was, yet again, giving the man space to choose to do the right thing.

Now, nobody has been more supportive of Trump than Lin Wood. This man’s career has been fighting defamation lawsuits which means that he doesn’t say things, no matter how outrageous they may seem, without them being true as he knows the consequences of slander. With this in mind, Lin Wood has become a fountain of information and leaks of hitherto unknown information revealing some of the depths of corruption and evil in our highest offices. This is the same man who recently said that arrests are coming over the next few days. He called Pence a traitor well before the counting of the elector votes on the 6th. But did you know that he also said that the president, following the capitol incident, left DC on a “Doomsday” aircraft (used for communications in the event of a nuclear war) with his family and was in Abilene, TX. This aircraft was confirmed by both flight trackers and eyes on the ground. In short, he is a trustworthy source of information. If you have a means to follow Lin Wood on Parler, I would highly recommend that you do so to stay abreast of things taking place. You can also listen to this podcast: Podcast

So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:
Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

These things may happen out of the order listed and some may happen multiple times. As I have been watching closely, many things have been and are in play as we speak. Remember that Trump has not and will not give up. He actually takes his oath of office to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic very seriously. This is why they are so panicked in DC: they know that Trump will fight while Congress just rolls over.

I’ve mentioned this before but it bears repeating. None of us would have believed what we all now know except that Trump and his team have painstakingly taken the time to show the public. Want to show what Congress thinks of you? Highlight that the stimulus bill only sent $600 to each American but billions to other countries (payoffs, money laundering). Want to show the extent of collusion with the CCP at all levels of government? Bring multiple lawsuits against the election fraud from the local courts all the way to the Supreme Court which will show just how brazenly treasonous the judges are. Want the public to see how rigged the election system has been for many years? Present the evidence openly as we have seen. Even this week we have sworn testimony out of Italy that the Leonardo defense contractor used satellites to change the votes from our election in the USA from Italy. These Dominion voting machines were actively sending data to Germany, Serbia, China, Iran, and now Rome. This corruption is MUCH bigger than any of us expected but none of us would have believed it until now. This is why things seem to have taken so long.

Now, the American public is awake and ready to take back their long forgotten responsibilities to hold the elected officials accountable. I have heard from many of you how upset you are with the obvious and willful disregard for the truth and for justice.

As the days unfold, let’s maintain communications among ourselves and try to help our neighbor to understand what is happening. Turn off the television as they have demonstrated they are clearly only falsifying the media to maintain control over your thinking. Do not despair but pray for our country, for Trump and his supporters, and for a national repentance to be stirred nationwide.

The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!
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Canary thoughts
My night prayer:
Please lord, make someone at Project Veritas receive Nancy Pelosi's "stolen laptop". And make them receive the laptop of any high ranking democratic official who had theirs stolen too. There must be enough patriots out there to make this happen.

One thing is clear: There is clearly something damning on that laptop she doesn't want the world to see via a leak. That is exactly why she is so forcefully pushing this whole 2nd impeachment charade and why most of social media silenced or deleted President Trump's accounts today; so he can't retweet or repost what has been found on the laptop.

What could it be? Email trails about the election? About the recount? Correspondence with Dominion officials?

Amen.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:57 pm Every new piece of footage is worse than the last. Jesus.

Have you seen this one?

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Grifman wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:09 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:50 am Looks like they either nuked it or their site is getting slammed. Here’s the whole thing spoilered because it’s quite long):
Spoiler:
write to you today, I have no doubt that this letter will find many of you crushed under the weight of despair or perhaps lost in a maze of confusion. It is my hope that by the time you finish reading this letter you will be able to confidently join millions of others who support the president and another four years.

Let me be clear: Trump will be president for another four years. Biden will not be president. Yes, I know those are shocking words in these crazy days.

I have been approached by many saying, “It’s over…” and “Trump conceded the election…”. Nothing of the sort has taken place. Go back and listen to the videos all the way through. At no point does Trump even mention Biden’s name. At no point does he say he concedes. He does say that there will be a peaceful transition to a new administration and he does say that this is only the beginning. Those phrases are important to note. Indeed, we will have a new administration made up of a new vice president and cabinet as the current ones have all made their treason complete. I will touch on this in more detail shortly.

We do well to remember that for more than four years Donald Trump has been five steps ahead of everyone in every attempt to derail him, impeach him, or confound him. For example, he announced on election night in the early hours of the morning that he “didn’t want a dump of ballots at 4AM.” What happened in just a few short hours at almost exactly 4AM? A huge ballot dump took place which showed that he already knew that it was going to take place. That was a public word to the enemies of our country that he was on to them. Also, consider the recent incident at the capitol building in DC. Trump was late to his speaking engagement and then spoke on a number of rehashed things to the crowd of 500K+ but this created a problem. You see, if Trump had spoken on time and briefly, the MAGA crowd would have been at the capitol building with the Antifa faction and likely would have been drawn into the fray by accident and confusion due to the crowd size. With Trump speaking late and long, the MAGA crowd was PROTECTED and SEPARATED from the Antifa groups. It would be very clear that the disguised Antifa people were 95%+ of the people in the building. Again, Trump countered because he was steps ahead of them. This was clearly a staged event meant to blame Trump supporters and try to frame Trump so the 25th amendment could be used by Congress but it failed. Nevermind the numerous videos showing the police opening the gates for Antifa (they didn’t fight their way in) and then leading them throughout the building.

I say all this as only two examples out of many that at no point has our president been in a fight of desperation.

Now you may ask, “Why hasn’t Trump arrested anyone yet? Why did this have to go all the way to Congress?” Multiple reasons: first, Trump has been adamant in following the rule of law and the Constitution. He gives everyone, no matter how dirty, an opportunity to do the right thing (sometimes with warnings such as the phone call with the Georgia Secretary of State recently). He pushed cases through the courts, he presented evidence to the legislatures, and he even told the vice president to do the right thing. But with the betrayal by Pence and Congress, the treason is now complete and nobody can say that Trump did not allow the process to finish before acting. Second, in order to drain the swamp you have to know who are the swamp creatures. They can blend in very well with the crowds. But the false event in the capitol revealed the final traitors for who they were regardless of party affiliation. Trump flushed them out of hiding.

I need to take a moment to speak on Pence. With his treason completed, many of you may not know of his dealings and political posturing prior to the infamous day in the capitol. Pence was already wheeling and dealing way back during the 2016 election season with…wait for it….Paul Ryan. Remember Ryan? The RINO speaker of the house? Look at these emails that were recently revealed:

Pence-Ryan Emails

Pence was also involved with a scheme to oust Trump sometime during his first four years that was orchestrated by Rod Rosenstein and supported by the Clintons. The plan: get rid of Trump, become president and then appoint Rod Rosenstein as the new VP. Why would they want that? Because they felt Pence could be controlled. See these links for the 3 part series for more information:

Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

More could be said but I don’t want this letter to become more of a book than it already is. Suffice it to say that when Trump said at the DC rally that he hoped Pence would do the right thing, he already knew what he was going to do but was, yet again, giving the man space to choose to do the right thing.

Now, nobody has been more supportive of Trump than Lin Wood. This man’s career has been fighting defamation lawsuits which means that he doesn’t say things, no matter how outrageous they may seem, without them being true as he knows the consequences of slander. With this in mind, Lin Wood has become a fountain of information and leaks of hitherto unknown information revealing some of the depths of corruption and evil in our highest offices. This is the same man who recently said that arrests are coming over the next few days. He called Pence a traitor well before the counting of the elector votes on the 6th. But did you know that he also said that the president, following the capitol incident, left DC on a “Doomsday” aircraft (used for communications in the event of a nuclear war) with his family and was in Abilene, TX. This aircraft was confirmed by both flight trackers and eyes on the ground. In short, he is a trustworthy source of information. If you have a means to follow Lin Wood on Parler, I would highly recommend that you do so to stay abreast of things taking place. You can also listen to this podcast: Podcast

So, what comes next? I don’t have the particulars but I can give you milestones to watch for as the coming days unfold:
Expect the emergency broadcast system to be activated. The FCC just recently released a memorandum speaking to the requirements under Federal law to send messages from the president to the public. See this link
Expect confusion. We are in a battle for our republic against elites that are attempting the very coup that they are accusing Trump of doing. In battle, there will be disinformation but know that plans are being fulfilled.
Expect high profile arrests to take place over the next 12 days and at any time. You may wake one morning to find someone in high office is no longer there.
Expect this to be a bumpy ride to the very end. This is not a television show where things are resolved in 45 minutes.
Expect more bombshell evidence to be released between now and Jan. 20th.
Expect some sort of internet blackout or outage: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Gmail are likely going to be affected. If you don’t have alternate forms of communication established now, it would be a good idea to start forming them even if it’s just checking on your nextdoor neighbors.
Expect Trump to be inaugurated on Jan 20th!
Expect the executive order from 2018 and/or the Insurrection Act to be enacted. This DOES NOT mean martial law. Remember that we have been under a state of emergency since 2018 which gives the president many powers to act.

These things may happen out of the order listed and some may happen multiple times. As I have been watching closely, many things have been and are in play as we speak. Remember that Trump has not and will not give up. He actually takes his oath of office to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic very seriously. This is why they are so panicked in DC: they know that Trump will fight while Congress just rolls over.

I’ve mentioned this before but it bears repeating. None of us would have believed what we all now know except that Trump and his team have painstakingly taken the time to show the public. Want to show what Congress thinks of you? Highlight that the stimulus bill only sent $600 to each American but billions to other countries (payoffs, money laundering). Want to show the extent of collusion with the CCP at all levels of government? Bring multiple lawsuits against the election fraud from the local courts all the way to the Supreme Court which will show just how brazenly treasonous the judges are. Want the public to see how rigged the election system has been for many years? Present the evidence openly as we have seen. Even this week we have sworn testimony out of Italy that the Leonardo defense contractor used satellites to change the votes from our election in the USA from Italy. These Dominion voting machines were actively sending data to Germany, Serbia, China, Iran, and now Rome. This corruption is MUCH bigger than any of us expected but none of us would have believed it until now. This is why things seem to have taken so long.

Now, the American public is awake and ready to take back their long forgotten responsibilities to hold the elected officials accountable. I have heard from many of you how upset you are with the obvious and willful disregard for the truth and for justice.

As the days unfold, let’s maintain communications among ourselves and try to help our neighbor to understand what is happening. Turn off the television as they have demonstrated they are clearly only falsifying the media to maintain control over your thinking. Do not despair but pray for our country, for Trump and his supporters, and for a national repentance to be stirred nationwide.

The next 12 days will be something to tell the grandchildren! It’s 1776 all over again!
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This is pretty insane as far as hacks go,

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I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
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hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:20 am I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact. This means geolocation data and time. I am sure that AWS might be implored to share that data with the FBI anyways of course (plus they have the cell phone data from anyone dumb enough to leave their normal phone on), but this is a pretty hard to recover from situation for parler on top of everything else they have going against them right now. I mean they were able to create millions of admin accounts and basically everyone on parler just got doxxed. This is epic.
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Forgot to drop this in yesterday. It adds fuel to the need to investigate the insurrection publicly. Sheldon Whitehouse has called for one that'll also consider sanctions or expulsion of Cruz, Hawley, and others potentially and asks that they not be included on any committees investigating such.





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Enough wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 am
hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:20 am I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact.
Now, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:

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Skinypupy wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:21 pm
Kurth wrote: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:14 pm There’s nothing beautiful about that, even if Graham is now reaping what he’s sown.
Don't disagree at all. It sets a dangerous precedent with lots of possibility to escalate because these people are completely unhinged.
I'd disagree. I think that every GOP member right now that has these firecrackers exploding in their hands is learning a good lesson about tossing firecrackers into crowded movie theaters. Maybe, just maybe, the lesson will hurt enough that it sinks in and they don't do it again.

These are people who aren't going to be punished or prosecuted for any of the harm they've inflicted on the nation over the years, and a little poetic justice doesn't bother me at all. The nutters are going to nut, and I'd rather they be nutting at their own side than mine.
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Enough wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 am
hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:20 am I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact. This means geolocation data and time. I am sure that AWS might be implored to share that data with the FBI anyways of course (plus they have the cell phone data from anyone dumb enough to leave their normal phone on), but this is a pretty hard to recover from situation for parler on top of everything else they have going against them right now. I mean they were able to create millions of admin accounts and basically everyone on parler just got doxxed. This is epic.

My point is that the authorities usually don't turn to illegally gained information when looking for info on suspects. That way leads to cases being thrown out of court.
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Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

9 DAYS

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infinitelurker wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:25 am
Enough wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 am
hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:20 am I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact.
Now, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:

That talks about no-fly lists which seemed to have been debunked in the R&P Pictures thread.
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infinitelurker wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:25 am
Enough wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 am
hepcat wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:20 am I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact.
Now, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:

While amusing (to me anyway), it should also be noted that the hacking is a crime.
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Holman wrote: Sat Jan 09, 2021 12:40 pm I'm still trying to get my head around cop behavior on Jan 6.

On the one hand, there's footage of cops opening the gate and waving protesters in, but there are also fights at the barricades, and then there's this:

(Pretty disturbing video)
(Un?)fortunately not every cop in the area got the memo to let democracy fall that day.
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I still just can't process this.


Try to get your head around this:

people thought they were going to storm the Capitol, kill or take hostage members of Congress, force them to name Trump the winner of the election & place him in power for another 4 years (or whatever) & then fly home & go back to work.
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It made me chuckle at their stupidity. Of course there may have been some that expected Agolf to grant them a position in the junta.
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Kraken wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:12 pm I hope they're making enough key arrests and disrupting communications sufficiently to disrupt the riots coming next weekend, but this doesn't feel like something we can arrest our way out of.
I don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:19 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:12 pm I hope they're making enough key arrests and disrupting communications sufficiently to disrupt the riots coming next weekend, but this doesn't feel like something we can arrest our way out of.
I don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
Yep, it gives new meaning to the term "weekend warrior." Also note the paltry turnout for post insurrection Agolf rallies.
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Jaymann wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:14 pm It made me chuckle at their stupidity. Of course there may have been some that expected Agolf to grant them a position in the junta.
Large segments of these people also believe that world events are dictated by a Satanic pedo-cult headed by Soros and run out of a pizza parlor. Taking part in an insurrection on Wednesday and heading back to work on Friday doesn't seem that much of a stretch if that's your baseline mindset about reality.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:19 pm
Kraken wrote: Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:12 pm I hope they're making enough key arrests and disrupting communications sufficiently to disrupt the riots coming next weekend, but this doesn't feel like something we can arrest our way out of.
I don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
+1. That is why I think Wray is quietly going to be in retrospect seen as a bit of a key player. The FBI didn't have the jurisdiction to stop it but they will get the response right. And that response is built out around making enough noise to make follow on efforts too personally expensive. I hope it works.
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ImLawBoy wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:19 pm Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
I hope you are right. While hoping I've been over exposed to vocal extremism, I keep end up finding out I've been under estimating the deplorables and the gravity of their messaging. Time and time again. I've been searching for my composure and my will to look away from what happened over the last week and coming up short.
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Skinypupy wrote: Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:09 pm I still just can't process this.


Try to get your head around this:

people thought they were going to storm the Capitol, kill or take hostage members of Congress, force them to name Trump the winner of the election & place him in power for another 4 years (or whatever) & then fly home & go back to work.
I would place a large bet that many if not most didn't get past the "storm the castle/Capitol" part, mentally. Doesn't seem like a crowd that is into introspection and critical thinking.
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These are diplomatic and line of succession problems. No big deal.

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Why won't they have a hearing?
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