2020 Election Results

[WYBaugh]

They keep saying that Trump has the latino vote...how in the hell does a guy that wants to build a wall and anti-immigration, etc that latino's want this guy?

I'm in North Florida and my county (Duval) did vote for Biden.

[Octavious]

NC is showing in favor of of Trump according to NYT. I'm already losing my mind. The polls are f'n pointless. Everything I've seen around me is Trump Trump Trump and that's what we're seeing so far.

[Brian]

They keep saying that Trump has the latino vote...how in the hell does a guy that wants to build a wall and anti-immigration, etc that latino's want this guy?

The Latino mindset of machismo plays a big part.

This was discussed quite a bit in the latest episode of the Left, Right, & Center podcast.

[Skinypupy]

Go here.

Thanks. I had that up earlier but closed the browser and lost the URL.

[gameoverman]

And Florida already looks like shit. I don't think I can sit and watch this again.

Florida appears done. An 11 point Trump swing with Cubans.

What I've read in various places is that the Cuban American community has a very deep revulsion for anything resembling leftist politics, due to Castro and what he did with Cuba. It kind of makes sense to me. I mean if I had one horrible experience with politics on one side of the aisle, but no equally horrible experience with the other side then I might regard the one side as the evil one. It doesn't make sense in the larger scheme of things, because you'd have to be a hardcore conspiracy theorist to believe there's an imminent communist takeover of the US happening soon. Look at who is President, and which party controls the senate, and what kind of justices are on the Supreme Court. How is all that possible if leftists had dominant power in this country?

[Grifman]

They keep saying that Trump has the latino vote...how in the hell does a guy that wants to build a wall and anti-immigration, etc that latino's want this guy?

The Latino mindset of machismo plays a big part.

This was discussed quite a bit in the latest episode of the Left, Right, & Center podcast.

The other thing in Florida, the Cubans are very anti-Castro. Obama did the Democrats no favors opening up to Cuba, which gave Trump the opportunity to close things back down. That is probably a pretty big part of their support. Probably the wrong move by Obama if the Democrats want to win Florida.

[malchior]

So Trump made in-roads into communities he is explicitly racist against. People are just recklessly stupid.

[Grifman]

So, it the Florida polling difference/error going to bleed over into other states? That is the big question now, it appears to me.

[LordMortis]

Look at who is President, and which party controls the senate, and what kind of justices are on the Supreme Court. How is all that possible if leftists had dominant power in this country?

That's a question I keep asking but goes unanswered.

[LawBeefaroni]

Washenaw county (traditionally blue) is leaning red in MI. That's not a good sign. Also, James is winning the senate race, generally. This is my fear from local observations being realized.

Don't make me have to move back there.

[malchior]

So, it the Florida polling difference/error going to bleed over into other states? That is the big question now, it appears to me.

We have no reason to believe this is polling error yet.

[Isgrimnur]

Go here.

Thanks. I had that up earlier but closed the browser and lost the URL.

Let me tell you a little something about the browser history.

[Unagi]

Florida is lost.
fuck Florida.

[Defiant]

[Alefroth]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

[LawBeefaroni]

Currently at a 4 beers/hour pace. If nothing else, I should fall asleep ok.

[Grifman]

[Grifman]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

[Alefroth]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

Of course it is. Just thought it was an amusing data point.

[Defiant]

This is not particularily useful information unless we (or more likely, an expert) knows where these votes are coming from in those states and what the remaining uncounted vote is likely to look like.

[Skinypupy]

Most places have all three of these with a pretty strong GOP lean. I wouldn't put stock into any of them.

[Yojimbo]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

Trump will lead the popular vote until CA chimes in. But the popular vote means nothing to anyone except the occasional sore loser.

[hepcat]

I got a bad feeling about this.

[Skinypupy]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Very. Trying not to doomscroll, but it's difficult. Even if Biden wins, it's going to be by a very close margin.

My hope for the future of America decreases by the minute tongith.

[malchior]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

Trump will lead the popular vote until CA chimes in. But the popular vote means nothing to anyone except the occasional sore loser.

Or people worried about the legitimacy of our democracy. Biden (if he loses) might win by 8 or 9 million votes and still lose. That isn't a sore loser situation that is a melt down waiting to happen.

[malchior]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Biden is durably ahead in NC and Trump has a very narrow path if it falls. He is ahead in Ohio. If Ohio falls for Biden the path is essentially closed. It is just going to be a long night.

[Yojimbo]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

Trump will lead the popular vote until CA chimes in. But the popular vote means nothing to anyone except the occasional sore loser.

Or people worried about the legitimacy of our democracy. Biden (if he loses) might win by 8 or 9 million votes and still lose. That isn't a sore loser situation that is a melt down waiting to happen.

Maybe so, but going to war with the people who grow all of your wheat and fight all of your wars for you will not work out well.

[dbt1949]

You know what would be funny?
If Biden won the electoral votes but lost the popular vote.

[Smoove_B]

Biden is durably ahead in NC and Trump has a very narrow path if it falls. He is ahead in Ohio. If Ohio falls for Biden the path is essentially closed. It is just going to be a long night.

All that might be true, but seeing this unfold is a stark reminder that as a nation we're still really, really fuct up. This should have a been a decisive (D) victory and the fact that it's not speaks volumes about our current status as we're led by a dictator wanna-be during the largest crisis we've seen as a nation in a century.

[Alefroth]

Trump actually winning the popular vote at the moment, according to WaPo.

Meaningless.

Trump will lead the popular vote until CA chimes in.

I doubt that.

[wonderpug]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Very. Trying not to doomscroll, but it's difficult. Even if Biden wins, it's going to be by a very close margin.

My hope for the future of America decreases by the minute tonight.

And this makes tonight depressing even if Biden wins. I don’t know if my opinion of humans in general can get much lower.

[Blackhawk]

I'm not commenting much. But I'm watching. Tensely fidgeting and watching. And possibly drinking.

[Octavious]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Very. Trying not to doomscroll, but it's difficult. Even if Biden wins, it's going to be by a very close margin.

My hope for the future of America decreases by the minute tonight.

And this makes tonight depressing even if Biden wins. I don’t know if my opinion of humans in general can get much lower.

Seriously my opinion of people has dropped so much the last 4 years it's not even funny. That includes my father who wonders why I don't want to come visit. F off

[malchior]

Biden is durably ahead in NC and Trump has a very narrow path if it falls. He is ahead in Ohio. If Ohio falls for Biden the path is essentially closed. It is just going to be a long night.

All that might be true, but seeing this unfold is a stark reminder that as a nation we're still really, really fuct up. This should have a been a decisive (D) victory and the fact that it's not speaks volumes about our current status as we're led by a dictator wanna-be during the largest crisis we've seen as a nation in a century.

Oh I agree. This is a dose of reality for a lot of folks. This system is a failure. Hopefully Biden pulls it out but people can't forget this feeling that despite overwhelming support we are always this close to a dictatorship. The Democrats have to seize the opportunity to change it if they have the chance or we will eventually fall.

[MHS]

Currently at a 4 beers/hour pace. If nothing else, I should fall asleep ok.

One bowl of ice cream down, starting on wine. I want to rail and gnash my teeth and ask how half our country can be so blind and stupid but what's the point?

[malchior]

Gardner is down in CO. One Senate seat flipped.

[Yojimbo]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Very. Trying not to doomscroll, but it's difficult. Even if Biden wins, it's going to be by a very close margin.

My hope for the future of America decreases by the minute tonight.

And this makes tonight depressing even if Biden wins. I don’t know if my opinion of humans in general can get much lower.

Seriously my opinion of people has dropped so much the last 4 years it's not even funny. That includes my father who wonders why I don't want to come visit. F off

You will have politics forever. My own father passed last Dec after a short/sudden cancer. We did not always get along (esp re:politics) but I'm glad for every moment I got with him those last few months. YMMV, of course.

[malchior]

Fox is saying that the House will stay Democratic and the balance will shift *at least* 5 seats towards the Democrats.

[Octavious]

I got a bad feeling about this.

Very. Trying not to doomscroll, but it's difficult. Even if Biden wins, it's going to be by a very close margin.

My hope for the future of America decreases by the minute tonight.

And this makes tonight depressing even if Biden wins. I don’t know if my opinion of humans in general can get much lower.

Seriously my opinion of people has dropped so much the last 4 years it's not even funny. That includes my father who wonders why I don't want to come visit. F off

You will have politics forever. My own father passed last Dec after a short/sudden cancer. We did not always get along (esp re:politics) but I'm glad for every moment I got with him those last few months. YMMV, of course.

To me this isn't politics. This is good vs evil. And thing is my daughters future... 4 more years of this nonsense and what will she have left?

[Alefroth]

NYT is saying NC 88% likely for Trump, but WaPo and NPR aren't showing that.