That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
OK, no, we need to remember Trump as a warning for the future, especially since we didn't get a repudiation of Trumpism, but damn, how I wish we could block him out of history and our minds.)You think he needs luck? Think of his poor counter-snipers.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:11 am Good luck, Joe. You’re going to need it. And we thought the R’s were obstructionist during the Obama years. HA!
I'll leave people to their joy for now but I participated in an informal firm internal war game for political junkies last night and my notes have some stark predictions. I dropped one in the other thread.El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:39 am First step is to try to win the run-off elections in GA. Also double-checking Senate vote counts to make sure that there isn't another Senate seat or two in the cards. Both unlikely (especially the latter) but critically important. The sad part about the result is that without a Senate majority Biden's not going to be doing much other than temporarily putting out the fire for the next 2 - 4 years.
The Biden Presidency was always going to be about two things:El Guapo wrote:First step is to try to win the run-off elections in GA. Also double-checking Senate vote counts to make sure that there isn't another Senate seat or two in the cards. Both unlikely (especially the latter) but critically important. The sad part about the result is that without a Senate majority Biden's not going to be doing much other than temporarily putting out the fire for the next 2 - 4 years.
Which other thread?malchior wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:44 amI'll leave people to their joy for now but I participated in an informal firm internal war game for political junkies last night and my notes have some stark predictions. I dropped one in the other thread.El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:39 am First step is to try to win the run-off elections in GA. Also double-checking Senate vote counts to make sure that there isn't another Senate seat or two in the cards. Both unlikely (especially the latter) but critically important. The sad part about the result is that without a Senate majority Biden's not going to be doing much other than temporarily putting out the fire for the next 2 - 4 years.
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:11 pmWhich other thread?malchior wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:44 amI'll leave people to their joy for now but I participated in an informal firm internal war game for political junkies last night and my notes have some stark predictions. I dropped one in the other thread.El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:39 am First step is to try to win the run-off elections in GA. Also double-checking Senate vote counts to make sure that there isn't another Senate seat or two in the cards. Both unlikely (especially the latter) but critically important. The sad part about the result is that without a Senate majority Biden's not going to be doing much other than temporarily putting out the fire for the next 2 - 4 years.
That alone will be enough to let me sleep better at night.
100% agree. And frankly, accomplishing either (or both!) of these is more than reason enough to celebrate.RunningMn9 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 12:03 pm1) Stop pouring gasoline on the US electorate.
2) Restore the competency of the Executive Branch.
It's always amazing to me the chaos an EO can cause.
Unfortunately, not that one. They are appointed for five year terms. I think Biden will be able to appoint someone else chairman, but Pai will still be on the panel (Edit: Pai's term began in 2017, so he's serving through 2022).
FCC wrote:The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate for five-year terms, except when filling an unexpired term. The President designates one commissioner to serve as chairman. As the chief executive officer of the Commission, the chairman delegates management and administrative responsibility to the Managing Director. Certain other functions are delegated to staff units and bureaus and to committees of commissioners. The commissioners hold regular open and closed agenda meetings and special meetings. They also may act between meetings by "circulation," a procedure by which a document is submitted to each commissioner individually for consideration and official action.
Um, I hate to bring this up but Trump got almost 70 million votes last I saw. This mess we're in is not in the past, it's not something to remember. It's going on right now and will continue for the foreseeable future. In a way, the pandemic is a metaphor for what's going on politically in this country. Trumpism has spread and many are infected with it, and we have no herd immunity or vaccine. I wish Biden good luck, because the more successful he is he better off the people of this country will be but I'm hesitant to expect anything until the mid term elections. With Republicans controlling the senate this ride is going to continue to be a rough one.
Right but he won't be in charge nor re-appointed and that's enough for me. Be interesting to find out exactly how many agency openings Biden will be able to fill.stessier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:39 pmUnfortunately, not that one. They are appointed for five year terms. I think Biden will be able to appoint someone else chairman, but Pai will still be on the panel (Edit: Pai's term began in 2017, so he's serving through 2022).
FCC wrote:The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate for five-year terms, except when filling an unexpired term. The President designates one commissioner to serve as chairman. As the chief executive officer of the Commission, the chairman delegates management and administrative responsibility to the Managing Director. Certain other functions are delegated to staff units and bureaus and to committees of commissioners. The commissioners hold regular open and closed agenda meetings and special meetings. They also may act between meetings by "circulation," a procedure by which a document is submitted to each commissioner individually for consideration and official action.
The general expectation is that everyone (at the chair / agency chief level) leaves so that the new president can appoint people of his liking. But then, McConnell's already been saying that he's going to get all up in Biden's business on his appointments, rather than just accept qualified scandal-free people that Biden wants.Lorini wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 pmRight but he won't be in charge nor re-appointed and that's enough for me. Be interesting to find out exactly how many agency openings Biden will be able to fill.stessier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:39 pmUnfortunately, not that one. They are appointed for five year terms. I think Biden will be able to appoint someone else chairman, but Pai will still be on the panel (Edit: Pai's term began in 2017, so he's serving through 2022).
FCC wrote:The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate for five-year terms, except when filling an unexpired term. The President designates one commissioner to serve as chairman. As the chief executive officer of the Commission, the chairman delegates management and administrative responsibility to the Managing Director. Certain other functions are delegated to staff units and bureaus and to committees of commissioners. The commissioners hold regular open and closed agenda meetings and special meetings. They also may act between meetings by "circulation," a procedure by which a document is submitted to each commissioner individually for consideration and official action.
This is one area that I'd like to see Biden play hardball. Interim appointments can work, as we've seen. Even if they are eventually ruled illegal, it could take years.El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:46 pmThe general expectation is that everyone (at the chair / agency chief level) leaves so that the new president can appoint people of his liking. But then, McConnell's already been saying that he's going to get all up in Biden's business on his appointments, rather than just accept qualified scandal-free people that Biden wants.Lorini wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:44 pmRight but he won't be in charge nor re-appointed and that's enough for me. Be interesting to find out exactly how many agency openings Biden will be able to fill.stessier wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:39 pmUnfortunately, not that one. They are appointed for five year terms. I think Biden will be able to appoint someone else chairman, but Pai will still be on the panel (Edit: Pai's term began in 2017, so he's serving through 2022).
FCC wrote:The FCC is directed by five commissioners appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate for five-year terms, except when filling an unexpired term. The President designates one commissioner to serve as chairman. As the chief executive officer of the Commission, the chairman delegates management and administrative responsibility to the Managing Director. Certain other functions are delegated to staff units and bureaus and to committees of commissioners. The commissioners hold regular open and closed agenda meetings and special meetings. They also may act between meetings by "circulation," a procedure by which a document is submitted to each commissioner individually for consideration and official action.
Pete Buttigieg tackles this topic on his latest epidode of his podcast. Interview with Journalist Jonathan Alter.Lorini wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:25 pm Look how much shit Trump has done without the Congress. Biden can do the exact same activity. We can get back into the Climate Change Agreement. We can let China know we won't take shit about Taiwan. We can stop the sell of our national areas to commercial interests. He can fire the idiot who is in charge of the FCC and the other idiot who is in charge of the Consumer Financial Bureau. There's SO MUCH that he can do and that I believe he will do to get us back on track. No there won't be Medicare for All and the police will stay funded but just because he's not progressive isn't cause for despair.
He's always needed tight security, but so does Trump.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 3:13 pm I really hope Biden has some tight security at his speech tonight...
Trump did 2 years with a friendly congress and the other 2 with a friendly Senate. Biden will not only have a non-friendly Senate he will have an openly hostile one.Lorini wrote: ↑Fri Nov 06, 2020 1:25 pm Look how much shit Trump has done without the Congress. Biden can do the exact same activity. We can get back into the Climate Change Agreement. We can let China know we won't take shit about Taiwan. We can stop the sell of our national areas to commercial interests. He can fire the idiot who is in charge of the FCC and the other idiot who is in charge of the Consumer Financial Bureau. There's SO MUCH that he can do and that I believe he will do to get us back on track. No there won't be Medicare for All and the police will stay funded but just because he's not progressive isn't cause for despair.
Some dweeb on Fox News criticized Biden for not claiming victory. Let that sink in. No, asswipe, that's what your guy does. Joe will wait until all the votes are counted, as is correct and proper.
There’s a difference between appointing “acting” officials because they’re totally unqualified and doing it because McConnell won’t schedule a hearing.