My computer building odyssey so far

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My computer building odyssey so far

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I want to throw this out to see if anyone can help with anything. Already been posting on a lot of tech forums but so far no one has responded.

Building a rig with an A64 3000+ on an ABIT KV8 Pro motherboard. Using a 512 meg DIMM of Crucial ram (PC3200) and a Geforce 6800 128mb card (from eVGA).

I put it together, and when I try to boot it cancels itself after giving me a 1-long, 3-short beep code. I've googled this and it seems there are different beep codes depending on the BIOS! One version, the sequence means faulty vidcard; one means faulty memory. (The BIOS for this board seems to be Phoenix which isn't supposed to use these kind of beep sequences at all, but rather a different 3-set sequence. Which all sort of puzzles me.) Well I have swapped in other vidcards -- including one I know works because I am using it on the PC on which I'm typing this message -- and same error beep comes along. I'm thinking it's probably a memory issue, which would be odd because it's Crucial and ya know, supposed to be very high quality etc.

My tentative plan at this point is to go down to Fry's tomorrow and snap up another DIMM but this time make sure it is one on the "certified" list from the ABIT website for that board. The list doesn't include Crucial but that's just too damn bad (any recommendations for good second brands, like Kingmax, Corsair, etc. would be appreciated).

What worries me is that I might be throwing away another 80+ dollars on a fool's errand. Because again I can't think of any reason why this RAM wouldn't work. There's always "bad RAM" but this is Crucial we're talking about. But I can't think of any other option at this point either.

By the way, do the little USB doohickeys (the tiny plugs) that go from the case to the mobo have to be plugged in, or are those optional? I haven't plugged those in yet though I did plug in the other little deals (LEDs, speaker, etc.). i highly doubt this is what is wrong but you never know.

Kinda wondering if there is anything else diagnostically I can be sure of at this point. If the PC has the "presence of mind" to do an error report like that, does this mean the CPU is probably functioning adequately? Or is that something I can't take for granted either? If I could rule out mobo or CPU error then it would really narrow things down to memory. But then if I plug in another DIMM and get the same error message I will really be out of ideas and will probably have to get a new mobo and try to RMA the current one if Newegg will take it back.

(BTW, when transferring a CPU from one mobo to another, I assume you need some kind of solvent to clean off the thermal interface material? Any insight on that process?)

Building PCs is always a bit of an adventure but in this case things are going worse than the last time, which is too bad. :( If I have to, i'll throw another couple hundred dollars at the problem -- I'm committed now and really want to have a stonking machine for when Half Life 2 comes out.

Any thoughts much appreciated, thanks.
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Post by Ned Flanders »

It's definitely not because the usb isn't hooked up. Have you tried a different DIMM slot? I had a bad one on a new mobo once, very annoying. You should also check to make sure you don't have any contact between case & board except the screws. For installing CPU's check out http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silv ... ctions.htm.
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Post by SirReal »

Make the CPU is properly seated; in particular, make sure none of the CPU pins are bent. Make sure the DIMMs are properly seated. Both locking tabs must be fully locked.
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Start over. Take everything out of the case. Reseat the cpu, ram, and videocard. Remove/unhook everything else. Hook up the power supply to the motherboard and the power button. Boot. If that doesn't work, remove the motherboard from the case and retry it that way.

If that works, check the case for motherboard standoffs that are not where they should be. You can easily short the motherboard by adding too many standoffs. It doesn't sound like a short because that usually doesn't do anything.

The main thing is to remove as many variables as possible. That's why you hook up the cpu (with heatsink and fan), ram, and video only. If you have a spare video card (pci will do) try that, too. One other thing you should do is reset the bios. Do that first (even though I wrote it last).
Good luck.
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Well, if I reseat the CPU do I have to reapply thermal material too? I was using a heatsink that came with the A64 chip and had preapplied thermal material. Won't I have to wash all of that off of the heatsink and CPU and apply some new goo, etc.? Last time I tried washing a thermal pad off a heatsink it proved so difficult that I just bought a different heatsink. Never tried it on the back of a CPU, not looking forward to it. I will check that arctic silver link.

The beep codes are telling me something, I mean I keep getting the distinct "1 long, 3 short" every time. I would like to think that narrows it down somewhat, but...
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Is "resetting the BIOS" the same thing as clearing CMOS with jumpers?
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Post by bluefugue »

Search of the ABIT forums nailed it! Someone else had the exact same symptoms -- forgot to plug in the secondary (smaller) power connection on the mobo.

Now BIOS is up and running, rest should be gravy...

Big fat raspberry to confusing beep codes, but otherwise I am very relieved... :D
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Glad you got it working. It doesn't matter if it is beep codes or a digital readout. Any problem is tought to diagnose.
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