Windows 9, er, 10.
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
Which is the "Official" thread?
My wife's PC and my gaming PC are installing the update as I type this...I won't have time to check it out until after work...
My wife's PC and my gaming PC are installing the update as I type this...I won't have time to check it out until after work...
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Depends on whether or not you think it's a bargain.
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
I'm sticking to R&P.Isgrimnur wrote:Depends on whether or not you think it's a bargain.
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
Looks like launch day patches are two: one security update and one 'update for Windows 10.' Still build 10240.
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I've been running it for a couple of weeks and it seems to work pretty well. My biggest worry was games and I expect now that it is becoming widespread those issues should start seeing attention by the smarter users. For example, Borderlands the Pre-Sequel seems to have some issue with SLI (graphics cards both report 1% utilization the whole time and only one card is probably being used) and Mafia won't run in fullscreen so I am playing it in a 1600x900 window.
Maybe someone here can help with this other issue - it seems some drivers are not working and I get popups at startup, but there is no information on which drivers. Is there a way to determine which drivers are generating the errors? I tried looking at the event viewer but did find anything after a cursory glance.
Maybe someone here can help with this other issue - it seems some drivers are not working and I get popups at startup, but there is no information on which drivers. Is there a way to determine which drivers are generating the errors? I tried looking at the event viewer but did find anything after a cursory glance.
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Welp, I've accidentally upgraded to Win10. I thought I was fixing an issue with the pre-load, but apparently the workaround I followed was to start the actual installation.
My very first impression was not positive. The upgrade didn't install a video driver -- I had to do that manually. Aside from that, I haven't encountered any disasters. Yet...
My very first impression was not positive. The upgrade didn't install a video driver -- I had to do that manually. Aside from that, I haven't encountered any disasters. Yet...
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You have 30 days to go back if you'd like. I believe it's in the software update panel.Max Peck wrote:Welp, I've accidentally upgraded to Win10. I thought I was fixing an issue with the pre-load, but apparently the workaround I followed was to start the actual installation.
My very first impression was not positive. The upgrade didn't install a video driver -- I had to do that manually. Aside from that, I haven't encountered any disasters. Yet...
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It shouldn't be an problem. I had planned to update the OS alongside a hardware upgrade that is scheduled for tomorrow, and let my tech deal with it, but since I didn't manage to brick the system today I'll stick with it unless some serious issues crop up within the 30-day limit.Teggy wrote:You have 30 days to go back if you'd like. I believe it's in the software update panel.Max Peck wrote:Welp, I've accidentally upgraded to Win10. I thought I was fixing an issue with the pre-load, but apparently the workaround I followed was to start the actual installation.
My very first impression was not positive. The upgrade didn't install a video driver -- I had to do that manually. Aside from that, I haven't encountered any disasters. Yet...
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So I have it reserved, but so far no notification it's ready. I heard they are releasing in waves. I'm hoping I can get it today.
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Starting today, Microsoft is offering most Windows 7 and Windows 8 users a free upgrade to the software giant’s latest operating system — Windows 10. But there’s a very important security caveat that users should know about before transitioning to the new OS: Unless you opt out, Windows 10 will by default share your Wi-Fi network password with any contacts you may have listed in Outlook and Skype — and, with an opt-in, your Facebook friends!
This brilliant new feature, which Microsoft has dubbed Wi-Fi Sense, doesn’t share your WiFi network password per se — it shares an encrypted version of that password. But it does allow anyone in your Skype or Outlook or Hotmail contacts lists to waltz onto your Wi-Fi network — should they ever wander within range of it or visit your home (or hop onto it secretly from hundreds of yards away with a good ‘ole cantenna!).
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The company says your contacts will only be able to share your network access, and that Wi-Fi Sense will block those users from accessing any other shared resources on your network, including computers, file shares or other devices. But these words of assurance probably ring hollow for anyone who’s been paying attention to security trends over the past few years: Given the myriad ways in which social networks and associated applications share and intertwine personal connections and contacts, it’s doubtful that most people are aware of who exactly all of their social network followers really are from one day to the next.
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Microsoft’s solution for those concerned requires users to change the name (a.k.a. “SSID“) of their Wi-Fi network to include the text “_optout” somewhere in the network name (for example, “oldnetworknamehere_optout”).
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While you’re at it, consider keeping Google off your Wi-Fi network as well. It’s unclear whether the Wi-Fi Sense opt-out kludge will also let users opt-out of having their wireless network name indexed by Google, which requires the inclusion of the phrase “_nomap” in the Wi-Fi network name. The Register seems to think Windows 10 upgraders can avoid each by including both “_nomap” and “_optout” in the Wi-Fi network name, but this article at How-To Geek says users will need to choose the lesser of two evils.
Either way, Wi-Fi Sense combined with integrated Google mapping tells people where you live (and/or where your business is), meaning that they now know where to congregate to jump onto your Wi-Fi network without your permission.
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I might just be an idiot, but I've still never seen an upgrade icon in my system tray. Am I looking in the wrong place? Do I need something turned on before I can see that option? Why does Microsoft hate me?????
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
Check your update history. I had 2 failed attempts to download the update prior to this morning.naednek wrote:So I have it reserved, but so far no notification it's ready. I heard they are releasing in waves. I'm hoping I can get it today.
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The update that enabled the Win10 upgrade wasn't pushed out as important. I know at least one person who never installed it until a couple of days ago because he wasn't installing optional/recommended updates for some reason. The pertinent update was KB3035583, and it should have been available back around 1 Jun.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I might just be an idiot, but I've still never seen an upgrade icon in my system tray. Am I looking in the wrong place? Do I need something turned on before I can see that option? Why does Microsoft hate me?????
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I have the system set to install all updates automatically. But looking through my update history, I don't see that specific update listed. And when I try to search for updates, it tells me there are no updates currently available.Max Peck wrote:The update that enabled the Win10 upgrade wasn't pushed out as important. I know at least one person who never installed it until a couple of days ago because he wasn't installing optional/recommended updates for some reason. The pertinent update was KB3035583, and it should have been available back around 1 Jun.Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I might just be an idiot, but I've still never seen an upgrade icon in my system tray. Am I looking in the wrong place? Do I need something turned on before I can see that option? Why does Microsoft hate me?????
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
What version and edition of Windows are you on?
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8.1, 64-bit version. I just manually installed the update listed above but I still don't see the upgrade icon.
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I did! Still nothing. I am doomed to an eternity of Windows 8.1...Isgrimnur wrote:WAEFR
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Re: Windows 9, er, 10.
Alright, I'll bite. Have you tried my link?
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Not yet since I'm at work, plus they do give this caveat:Zaxxon wrote:Alright, I'll bite. Have you tried my link?
Note: We’ve only tested this with a computer that had a copy reserved; we don’t expect it would work if you haven’t reserved a copy of Windows 10 for the computer you’re upgrading.
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The comments confirm it'll work regardless of reservation.
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You could try this (found here).Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Not yet since I'm at work, plus they do give this caveat:Zaxxon wrote:Alright, I'll bite. Have you tried my link?
Note: We’ve only tested this with a computer that had a copy reserved; we don’t expect it would work if you haven’t reserved a copy of Windows 10 for the computer you’re upgrading.
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Not read this thread so it may have been posted but theres a video out there that shows Win 10 corrupts Nvidia drivers and to hold off on updating to 10.
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I also had the failed update error in my Windows Update history (if you aren't getting notification, check there.) I found this solution online and tried it:
It started the update immediately. I've spent the last couple of hours backing up my photos and such across the network - just in case. Now I'm going in. Wish me luck.Go to: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
Delete everything
Then run this command in start>cmd wuauclt.exe /updatenow
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When Win10 first came up it was using default Windows video drivers but after a reboot it loaded with updated drivers for my 970. Seems fine although I haven't tried a game yet.Daehawk wrote:Not read this thread so it may have been posted but theres a video out there that shows Win 10 corrupts Nvidia drivers and to hold off on updating to 10.
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Maybe next year, maybe no go
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Yep, check GeForce and get the latest driver, life will be much much better.
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I'm running 10 with dual 780 in SLI and the drivers are just peachy as far as I can tell.Daehawk wrote:Not read this thread so it may have been posted but theres a video out there that shows Win 10 corrupts Nvidia drivers and to hold off on updating to 10.
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Yeah, worst case it should pull the current driver after initial Win10 boot, reboot again, and be all set.
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This is what I did. Just be aware that it is going to run the installer, not just download the update.Blackhawk wrote:I also had the failed update error in my Windows Update history (if you aren't getting notification, check there.) I found this solution online and tried it:
It started the update immediately. I've spent the last couple of hours backing up my photos and such across the network - just in case. Now I'm going in. Wish me luck.Go to: C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
Delete everything
Then run this command in start>cmd wuauclt.exe /updatenow
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In my case, the Win10 upgrade didn't install an nvidia driver. I just ran the GeForce Experience app, it detected that I was running Win10, installed the appropriate driver, and reported an error. After a reboot, the driver was properly installed.Zaxxon wrote:Yeah, worst case it should pull the current driver after initial Win10 boot, reboot again, and be all set.
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Mine is an AMD, so perhaps MS and Nvidia have some coordination to work on.
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Well Windows 10 upgrade says my GTX 965M display is not compatible. I downloaded the latest nvidia driver 353.62 and still not compatible. I contacted msi so hopefully i will hear something.
MSI GS70 Stealth-280 Laptop
Operating System: Windows® 8.1
Processor: Intel Core i7-4720HQ
Memory: 16GB
Display: 17.3” FHD Screen
Storage Drive: 1TB + 128GB SSD
Graphics: GTX 965M 2GB
Follow up note:
The funny thing was just the day before it said my system was all set for the upgrade.
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MSI GS70 Stealth-280 Laptop
Operating System: Windows® 8.1
Processor: Intel Core i7-4720HQ
Memory: 16GB
Display: 17.3” FHD Screen
Storage Drive: 1TB + 128GB SSD
Graphics: GTX 965M 2GB
Follow up note:
The funny thing was just the day before it said my system was all set for the upgrade.
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Some good, some bad. No major problems. That's good.
Using some features requires signing in with a Microsoft account. I'm fine with that. The problem is, if you sign in with a Microsoft account, it forces your real name onto everything - the welcome screen, the start menu, etc. I really, really dislike this. I've used a handle for my accounts for a very long time, and really dislike not being able to do so.
Also, when you sign in with your Microsoft account for the first time, read the warnings very carefully. It wasn't entirely clear that I was also setting the lock screen password to the Microsoft account password, which I don't know by heart.
Using some features requires signing in with a Microsoft account. I'm fine with that. The problem is, if you sign in with a Microsoft account, it forces your real name onto everything - the welcome screen, the start menu, etc. I really, really dislike this. I've used a handle for my accounts for a very long time, and really dislike not being able to do so.
Also, when you sign in with your Microsoft account for the first time, read the warnings very carefully. It wasn't entirely clear that I was also setting the lock screen password to the Microsoft account password, which I don't know by heart.
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I may have found the problem. For some reason, my computer isn't showing Windows update kb2976978 as installed which apparently is necessary for the upgrade icon to show up. However, when I check for updates I am told that there aren't any updates to download. Unfortunately, I can't find a link to manually install that update.
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Since you're coming from 8, you can just download the ISO, right-click to mount it, and run the upgrade from there. No need to burn or copy to USB.
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Ah cool. I'll give that a shot this weekend after I've had time to back everything up. Thanks.
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