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Now that I can afford one, I don't know what to buy...

Post by Kasey Chang » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:53 pm

Now that 1080's are affordable again, I can buy Alienware Aurora i7 w/ 1080 for $1600 as part of labor day sale. I can pick a 1070 for $1400, or i5/1060 for 1049. Dell will even finance it for 12 months interest-free.

Or perhaps, I can go Dell Outlet Alienware Aurora i7/1070 for 1170 but it has only 8GB RAM, and no SSD. There's XPS 8930 for 1160 that has i7 (8th gen) 2TB, 256GB M.2 SSD, 16GB RAM, and 6gb 1060. Hmmm...

I look at iBuyPower and their sales end up about the same price, within 100-200 bucks. i5 / 8GB / 1060 6GB for $1200. Argh. Maybe I can wait a bit longer as there will probably Halloween or Black Friday sale by the time I clear my credit card balance. Hahaha.
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Post by hitbyambulance » Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:18 am

that doesn't sound like 'now that i can afford one' to me...

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Post by Kraken » Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:01 am

I was persuaded by people smarter than me that i5 is better for gaming than i7. You don't need to pay for two extra i's.

Also, shop eCollege.

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Post by Kasey Chang » Mon Sep 03, 2018 4:56 am

hitbyambulance wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 12:18 am
that doesn't sound like 'now that i can afford one' to me...
Good point. I can pay off half of my credit card balance now, and keep a decent reserve. I should probably wait for another few weeks to clear my balance, THEN worry about the new PC. :)
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Post by Kasey Chang » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:16 am

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Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:01 am
I was persuaded by people smarter than me that i5 is better for gaming than i7. You don't need to pay for two extra i's.
Also, shop eCollege.
Hmmm... Seems eCollege gives a HAIR better system for the price. $1334 for Z370 MB, 16GB, 240GB SSD, Blu-Ray, 3GB 1060, i5, premium heatsink. I have a 1.5TB HD lying around here somewhere. But with the 2000's series GPUs coming out, I'm *kinda* worried 1060 may not be good enough. *sigh*
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Post by RunningMn9 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:41 am

Kraken wrote:I was persuaded by people smarter than me that i5 is better for gaming than i7. You don't need to pay for two extra i's.

Also, shop eCollege.
A high-end i5 is better value than a high-end i7 if the primary task is gaming (because the bottleneck is almost always going to be the video card). But the i7 will still be a little faster, and over time the gap will grow because eventually the CPU will start to be the bottleneck. Just clarifying that it’s not better in terms of performance, but better in terms of value. If looking at CPUs from the same family.
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Post by Kraken » Mon Sep 03, 2018 11:10 am

Kasey Chang wrote:
Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:16 am
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I was persuaded by people smarter than me that i5 is better for gaming than i7. You don't need to pay for two extra i's.
Also, shop eCollege.
Hmmm... Seems eCollege gives a HAIR better system for the price. $1334 for Z370 MB, 16GB, 240GB SSD, Blu-Ray, 3GB 1060, i5, premium heatsink. I have a 1.5TB HD lying around here somewhere. But with the 2000's series GPUs coming out, I'm *kinda* worried 1060 may not be good enough. *sigh*
You noticed that eCollege machines are customizable, right? (their website leaves something to be desired IMO). You want a 1080 in that machine, you can get it. 'Course, it's a fair-sized price bump.

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Post by gameoverman » Mon Sep 03, 2018 3:00 pm

I'd pick an i7, those extra threads will be more and more important shortly.
I'd be happy with 8gb ram, as long as the motherboard still has two free slots. Ram is expensive right now, you can add more later when it's cheap.
I would not pay for an SSD equipped model. SSDs are cheap now. So you'd do better to pick and choose exactly what you want and add it yourself later, it's not difficult.
I would get a 1070 at least. You never know when you might feel like moving up to 1440p, or ultra widescreen, or high refresh rates.

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Post by Daehawk » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:01 pm

1070 ti are like $429 now. Saw a 1080 for that same price. Both not needing mail in rebates.
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Post by Kasey Chang » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:28 am

on eCollege, 1070 ti and 1080 has difference of only $30.

By going with I5 8600K, 8GB of RAM, and no SSD (no HD either), and 1080 w/ copy of Win10 Home, and change the Mainboard, I got it down to 1373. I don't think I can push it any lower. I did get a slightly better HSF upgrade (CM Hyper 212 EVO) as I'm not sure about the stock cooler. 8600K is for overclocking anyway. :) Or I can go with just the regular i5 8400, skip the HSF, and get the system down to 1260. Which means I can get Win10 Pro (if I want it) for just over 1300.
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Post by gameoverman » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:01 pm

Unless you are into overclocking I'd skip paying extra for a "K" CPU. And if you are into overclocking, I'd want something better than that 212. That's kind of a goto budget cooler, which causes me to raise an eyebrow. If overclocking is your thing, the cooling and the power supply are two things you don't want to cheap out on.

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Post by Kasey Chang » Thu Sep 06, 2018 2:06 am

Not really into overclocking, but I don't trust the Intel factory cooler. :) If I want to overclock, I would have splurged for a waterblock.
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Post by Kasey Chang » Thu Sep 06, 2018 1:01 pm

I am almost tempted to buy a used one. A guy locally (well, Cupertino is kinda local) is selling a i7 -6700K w 16GB and NVIDIA 1070, plus 2 24 inch 1080p monitors for $1000, and I may be able to negotiate him down slightly. The story he gave was a bit off... "only used for 2 weeks", yet this PC should be about over a year old. Hmmm...

Another guy has i5 7600K w/ 16GB and GTX1070 for $900. El Cerrito is not that far.
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Post by Kasey Chang » Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:04 am

There's an Alienware Aurora R7 at Dell Outlet for $1184. i5-8400, 1TB HD, 16GB DDR4, GeForce 1080. No SSD, but it's not hard to add one.

There's a similar system, same CPU, 1TB HD, 8GB RAM, Geforce 1070 for $968.

Another choice is XPS8930, same CPU, 512GB SSD, 8GB RAM, GeForce 1080 for 1160. <<--- probably better deal, I have an HD I can add to this. I can add 8GB later.

Or XPS8930, i7 8700K (that's the unlocked CPU, I think) Win10 Pro, 1TB HD, 16GB RAM, GeForce 1080 for 1302.

Same CPU, 2TB HD, 16 GB RAM, same video GF1080 for $1320 <<-- better than 1302 deal, but it seems the 1160 deal above is better.
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Post by Daehawk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:39 pm

I think that you, like myself ,enjoy the shopping more than the buying :)
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Post by Kasey Chang » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:02 pm

I can afford it now, that I paid off a good chunk of my credit card, but I don't want to empty my account doing so. *sigh*
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Post by Daehawk » Sat Oct 13, 2018 1:13 pm

Just fooling around I built a nice new gen i5 on parts picker for a little over $1000 and that includes a $400 1070 ti. But without kb, mouse, OS...had case psu cpu mem vid ssd and all
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Post by JCC » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:15 pm

Kasey Chang wrote:
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I can afford it now, that I paid off a good chunk of my credit card, but I don't want to empty my account doing so. *sigh*
IMHO if you have any credit card debt, you shouldn't buy anything but the essentials until you have no credit card debt.

Having said that, those deals with 1080s did seem fairly reasonable.

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Post by Kasey Chang » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:09 pm

I agree in principle, but let's just say my current machine is 8 years old. (it's an old Dell XPS laptop I bought off ebay, it's not even 1080p screen. First gen i7, GF 445 M) I need an upgrade badly. I already have all the peripherals, so I just need the chasis/CPU, which is what that Dell deal was all about.
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Post by hitbyambulance » Mon Oct 15, 2018 8:06 pm

Kasey Chang wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:09 pm
I agree in principle, but let's just say my current machine is 8 years old. (it's an old Dell XPS laptop I bought off ebay, it's not even 1080p screen. First gen i7, GF 445 M) I need an upgrade badly. I already have all the peripherals, so I just need the chasis/CPU, which is what that Dell deal was all about.
my machine (yes, the one i'm still using) is 9 years old, first gen i7 with a 1280x1020 resolution 4:3 monitor from 2005. i upgraded the video card a few times so i'm now on a GeForce 970 that i purchased second-hand. i'm borrowing VR peripherals from work to use with it and it's fine.

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