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Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

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Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by Kasey Chang » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:05 am

I have a bit of a dilemma.

My current rented home has AT&T DSL, and I've disabled the existing router, only use pass-thru modem, and connected to a NetGear WiFi-N router/access point. Right now the setup works for downstairs and mezzanine level. I even have a wired powerline setup so upstairs can have a clear connection... to 1 PC, and it's not even being used.

I kinda want to upgrade the network to Wifi-AC, so here's the question...

1) Should I replace the existing N-router, or just add the AC as a secondary access point, maybe exclusive for upstairs or something?

2) Should I even bother, as I don't think any of the PC's I got actually have a Wifi-AC adapter, just Wifi-N?
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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by Zaxxon » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:30 pm

For virtually anyone looking to improve coverage by replacing/adding hardware in 2018+, the answer is 'toss that garbage and get a mesh system.'

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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by Pyperkub » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:23 pm

Zaxxon wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:30 pm
For virtually anyone looking to improve coverage by replacing/adding hardware in 2018+, the answer is 'toss that garbage and get a mesh system.'
This, though I went UniFi before mesh was actually available.
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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by JCC » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:16 pm

If you get a new AC router you should use it as the main router. Use the old one as an access point (if you need it). It could be the new router will have a greater range than your old one.

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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by MonkeyFinger » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:18 am

Pyperkub wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:23 pm
Zaxxon wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:30 pm
For virtually anyone looking to improve coverage by replacing/adding hardware in 2018+, the answer is 'toss that garbage and get a mesh system.'
This, though I went UniFi before mesh was actually available.
This. I went Google mesh, which was brain-dead easy to setup and fixed all of my Wi-Fi coverage problems.
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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by Zaxxon » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:23 am

MonkeyFinger wrote:
Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:18 am
Pyperkub wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:23 pm
Zaxxon wrote:
Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:30 pm
For virtually anyone looking to improve coverage by replacing/adding hardware in 2018+, the answer is 'toss that garbage and get a mesh system.'
This, though I went UniFi before mesh was actually available.
This. I went Google mesh, which was brain-dead easy to setup and fixed all of my Wi-Fi coverage problems.
Same here. I've got Google Wi-Fi set up at my home and my in-laws, and both have been rock-solid. The app interface is pretty slick, too. Automatically checks your internet speed, can show bandwidth usage by device or the whole network for real-time, daily, weekly, last 30 days.

And they actually update it routinely so you're not stuck with major security flaws for weeks/months (*cough* Asus). (Insert joke about Google networking devices being their own security flaw here.)

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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by JCC » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:00 pm

I ultimately bought an ASUS AC1900 two pack since at the time it was cheaper than Google Wifi. (Today on Amazon the Google Wifi 3 pack is cheaper.) I would have also had to buy a switch to use the Google Wifi. Having said that the ASUS AI Mesh works well. Though, it does have the odd drop on the mesh node now and again which may last a seconds up to a minute or so when it happens. But, I am sure Google Wifi is awesome. If it had been priced then what it is today on Amazon I would have bought it instead.

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Post by Kasey Chang » Thu Jan 03, 2019 12:17 pm

But even with mesh systems there are different systems from 175 to 350 (or more).

I think Google Mesh is right in the middle at about $250 on Amazon.
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Post by infinitelurker » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:04 pm

I recently upgraded a high-end, but aging router after noticing some sporadic issues with it from various devices.

I got the AmpliFi HD WiFi Router (It was $139 on Amazon). There are add-on mesh points that you can buy later ($110/each) to add to the system for extended coverage, but the router alone covers our 3500 sq ft home and garage.

Installation was a snap - install an app on your mobile device, and 2 minutes later (or less), you're up and running, and the speed was an insane jump over our old router. I highly recommend it!
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Post by LawBeefaroni » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:08 pm

I just installed the Google WiFi system. Great coverage but has issues with double NAT. Oddly, none of the issues if I use the guest ssid but I still need to fix, probably going to take down the modem NAT and just make it a bridge to Google.
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Re: Add a separate Wifi-AC access/router, or replace existing Wifi-N router?

Post by MonkeyFinger » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:03 am

Out of curiosity, what kind of "double NAT" issues are you seeing? My Comcast router (which the Google Mesh chains from) is one but I simply don't have anything connecting to it any longer so perhaps why I'm not seeing issues. FWIW, I did have to look up what "double NAT" meant to be sure what I thought it was was actually what it actually was. :wink:
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