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Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:03 pm
by Grifman
I’ve been having problems with my desktop pc on and off for the last 6 months or so. The big problem was the mouse cursor freezing and then the system. But once the system would start to boot up, get to the bios screen and then turn off, then restart and then continually do this in an endless loop. However, after a day, this went away. The cursor freeze and crash has continued, some weeks never happening, sometimes once or twice a day. But I have once again encountered the endless start and stop problem, all that to say, at this point, I just don.t want to deal with it anymore.

So now rather than my traditional desktop, I am interested in a gaming laptop. I know there are limitations, but the flexibly appeals to me, and I know they are a lot better than they used to be. I really would not be using the screen all that much - I want to be able to hook it up to my monitor, headset, wireless mouse, and regular keyboard. So are their people here using the gaming laptops? Any recommendation? What should I look for? Thanks.

PS I play all sorts of games - strategy, RPG, FPS.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:46 pm
by Daehawk
I used to dream of a gaming laptop many years ago. At that time the Asus ones were king. Not sure now days but might be a place to start.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:47 pm
by hitbyambulance
i know you didn't ask for troubleshooting info. however:

#1 issue here could be the power supply. replacing that might very well solve all the problems
#2 is to run MemChk for the RAM
#3 is to check leaking caps on the motherboard

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:29 pm
by Grifman
hitbyambulance wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:47 pm
i know you didn't ask for troubleshooting info. however:

#1 issue here could be the power supply. replacing that might very well solve all the problems
#2 is to run MemChk for the RAM
#3 is to check leaking caps on the motherboard
No problem, I appreciate it. After I have calmed down a bit, I decided to unplug it and open things up tonight and look at the power supply. Ran Memcheck when this first started and no problem there. Of course, can’t run it now since I can’t get into Windows. Thanks.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:39 pm
by hitbyambulance
Grifman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:29 pm
hitbyambulance wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 1:47 pm
i know you didn't ask for troubleshooting info. however:

#1 issue here could be the power supply. replacing that might very well solve all the problems
#2 is to run MemChk for the RAM
#3 is to check leaking caps on the motherboard
No problem, I appreciate it. After I have calmed down a bit, I decided to unplug it and open things up tonight and look at the power supply. Ran Memcheck when this first started and no problem there. Of course, can’t run it now since I can’t get into Windows. Thanks.
you can install MemTest86 to a flash drive, boot to it and run from there - no need to boot into Windows: https://www.memtest86.com/

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 pm
by Grifman
So after letting it “rest”, my pc was able to restart. My pc has lifetime tech support so I called them. The tech believes it is a memory problem so he has me running Memtest86 which is a more powerful test than what I had run previously. Hopefully this is the problem because this would be a simple fix - just replacing the memory. Wish me luck.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 11:34 pm
by RunningMn9
To the question about gaming laptops, I’ve had two. I had an old MSI Dominator that I liked, but a few years after I got that, I had an opportunity to buy a top of the line Alienware and I regret nothing.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:55 am
by Grifman
So Memtest revealed no errors with the memory and I ran it twice. The pc did crash this morning but was able to restart but I got a new message upon crashing "Machine Check Error" which definitely means a hardware problem. The next simplest option would be to replace the power supply and hope the problem goes away. If it doesn't then finding out what else could be wrong hardware wise is not easy based upon some reading I've done. I'd have to go into the PC and start monkeying around with a lot of stuff. I think the best "solution" if I can call it that, is run the PC until it won't restart or finally dies, and then just get a new one. That might be tomorrow or it might be 6 months from now. The machine is 4 years old, I don't want to put a lot of money/time/effort into it so I'll just take my stimulus money and get a gaming laptop when that time comes.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:17 pm
by hitbyambulance
Grifman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 pm
lifetime tech support
make them fix it!

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 2:35 pm
by Daehawk
Guys what is wrong with you. Being male and gamers you should instantly notice the "Its futzed I need a new one" line. Doesn't matter if its the power cord or a ram dimm or if it just happened or you might have helped it happen its the excuse reason needed for a new system. My God folks. ) You know Trump wants us to buy new systems right? Its broke. Help the man find himself a new system!! :mrgreen: :ninja:

In all fun there :) ..But Id Google it if it was me. I can do it but Im not sure what you want other than 'best'. But I can give it a shot if you're sure it has to be a laptop. Also what is your hard capped budget?

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:15 pm
by Grifman
hitbyambulance wrote:
Fri Apr 24, 2020 1:17 pm
Grifman wrote:
Thu Apr 23, 2020 7:39 pm
lifetime tech support
make them fix it!
It's life time tech support, not a lifetime warranty, and it's out of warranty. Yes, they could try and walk me through every single possibility but again, I've researched the possible solutions and it's really more than I want to deal with. It could be the power supply, it could be the motherboard, it could be the power switch, it could be the CPU, it could be the video card and on and on and on. So, as Daehawk has noted, it's just time to get another PC :)

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:22 pm
by dfs
Just FWIW, I've gone with gaming laptops for the last 6 years or so and don't miss my workstation. For the last couple of years I've used an oversized ACER Predator. The gpu heats it up so that you do want a cooling pad. This particular model is just a bit too large to get comfortably in a backpack, but screen size has not been an issue.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:16 pm
by Grifman
Thanks, for the input. I've been reading about cooling pads (didn't realize that was a thing until recently) and will definitely get one when I grab the laptop. I really want the portability, the ability to take it on trips with me, or move around the house and do some stuff other than not playing games. Gaming laptops seem to have come a long way since they first started coming out so I am looking forward to when this PC dies :)

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:03 am
by RunningMn9
I used a cooling pad with the MSI, but don’t bother with the Alienware. Good gaming laptops focus a lot of attention on cooling.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:37 am
by dfs
RunningMn9 wrote:
Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:03 am
I used a cooling pad with the MSI, but don’t bother with the Alienware. Good gaming laptops focus a lot of attention on cooling.
Well sure they do, but IC's generate heat and swap (size, weight and power) means the heat has to go someplace. The first two Alienware systems that I bought (Pre-Dell) ran so hot they started me using the cooling pad (and convinced me that being on the bleeding edge wasn't where I was comfortable). You want a real gaming laptop then your gonna need the circuitry for a video card. That's where ....99% of the heat is from. Move out of the gaming laptop world and voila heat is no longer as much of an issue.

The flip side of this is battery life. WIth some vendors you can configure the number of batteries in the case. Longer battery life translates into an increase in weight and size. You might consider investing in a couple of charging transformers. One to keep where you regularly work and another moble one. I will certainly do that when I replace this beast.

I do still keep a desktop in the house as a server and cheap (sound) recording platform. I think I built that desktop two years ago and it's not even connected to my steam account. The laptop moves with me and if I'm on a non-work computer, then that's the one I'm on most of the time.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:33 pm
by persself
I got the MSI GE75 Raider with RTX 2060 card, 17" screen. Was $1580 and I love it. Got a cooling pad (Carantee brand) to go with...both from Amazon site, but sold by separate vendors.

Extremely happy with my purchase.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 10:12 pm
by gbasden
I've had an Alienware 17 for a few years and it's been pretty bulletproof. I haven't gotten a cooling pad because it hasn't even gotten warm enough that it's uncomfortable on my lap.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 12:26 am
by Daehawk
I used to hear Dell/Alienware had hinges that went bad. They'd replace them of course. Did any owners see that on OO?

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 3:01 am
by gbasden
Daehawk wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 12:26 am
I used to hear Dell/Alienware had hinges that went bad. They'd replace them of course. Did any owners see that on OO?
I've not seen that issue on my 17 or my wife's 13.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 8:25 pm
by RunningMn9
Haven’t seen that on my 17 inch AW.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Mon May 04, 2020 8:30 pm
by Daehawk
Good maybe they corrected it. I recall discussion on it like 5 years ago....there bouts.

Re: Looking for gaming laptop

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 2:42 pm
by Dave Allen
Found a deal that's got me interested. And I definitely don't need another PC.

ASUS - ROG GU502GV 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 - 1TB SSD + Optane - Brushed Metallic Black

The open-box is only $1091 (for a laptop that will do ray tracing)