Octopus Overlords

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:14 am Stop using China as cheap labor.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 11:38 am I have too Im poor. Stuff didn't used to be made there.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:08 pm Maybe all overseas stuff will become too shit and expensive and the world will change...hahahahahaha who am I kidding.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:08 pm Maybe all overseas stuff will become too shit and expensive and the world will change...hahahahahaha who am I kidding.

gameoverman wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:13 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:08 pm Maybe all overseas stuff will become too shit and expensive and the world will change...hahahahahaha who am I kidding.

My take on this, short version. Post WWII meant the US worker was the only game in town. Iron Curtain, China, developing world- all out of reach of US business. Western Europe and Japan were in rebuilding mode. This created the illusion that the US worker was special and would always be special. Then the world changed. Japan and Western Europe were back in business. The developing world stabilized both politically and economically. The Iron Curtain came down and China joined the world economy. Now reality has set in. 'They' will make stuff where labor is cheapest. The only way graphics cards would be made here in the US is if US workers were willing to work for less than Chinese workers. That's called a race to the bottom. Don't hope for something to happen that makes foreign production more expensive because that won't happen, short of a large scale war. What WILL happen is corporations will simply find the next cheap source of labor. If Chinese workers become too demanding then maybe someplace in Africa or South America will be the next manufacturing hot spot. There will always be another worker so desperate to survive they'll work for less than you.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:22 pm Chinese made stuff is such crap. Back when Japan and Taiwan made everything it was better quality.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:22 pm Chinese made stuff is such crap.

stessier wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:34 am

Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:22 pm Chinese made stuff is such crap.

That's very simplistic. When you are the world's factory and make so much, then yes, you will make some low quality product. But they also make high quality product like the iPhone.

Kraken wrote:

Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:22 pm Chinese made stuff is such crap. Back when Japan and Taiwan made everything it was better quality.

I remember when "Jap crap" was a saying.

Zarathud wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:58 am

Kraken wrote:

Daehawk wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:22 pm Chinese made stuff is such crap. Back when Japan and Taiwan made everything it was better quality.

I remember when "Jap crap" was a saying.

Now and then, those phrases were fueled by nationalistic resentment and racism. If you’re looking to buy crap at the Dollar Store, China is more than willing to provide. If you want hi-tech TVs or PCs, they’re also capable. Depends on what you’re buying as much as the source.

Rumpy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:38 am And the reality is that China, being good at what they do, can heavily undercut the competition. Even if you were to set up something domestically, you'd never be able to reach the market price, and that is part and parcel because of culture and what is allowable.

My Dad was manufacturing telescopes in the 90's, and advertised them in the major publications and he'd found a pretty good niche at a fair price for what he was offering. He'd attracted enough attention from the Chinese market that then began to offer similar products and undercut him. And my Dad being just a small business couldn't afford to compete with them. He was already going as low as he could go and barely making any money on them.