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Can I Get That With A Side of Hate, Please?

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Can I Get That With A Side of Hate, Please?

Postby Mr. Fed » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:56 pm

I saw this article over at Quarter to Three. It's terrifying and hilarious in a whistle-past-the-graveyard sense.

I wanted to discuss it, but of course felt completely inadequate to do so there, and furthermore thought it would be particulary inappropriate in this instance to inflict more of the "Jews of the internet", as they would say, on them. So I'm linking it here. You can also discuss it there if you promise that you will not ruin the tone of the place. They have certain standards, you know.

The bullet: the article tells the surreal story of a reporter working undercover to meet with white supremacists at an Applebee's to discuss joining their group.

Here's a taste:

What prompted you to want to become a racial activist or at least look into it?: "I really want to get more involved in activism in my community. I work well with others and have good organizational skills. I have a pickup truck if that's needed at any events."

Then I throw in for good measure: "Also, I hate the Jews! Lol"

And in closing I add, "Where shall we meet?"

The local leader of the hate group -- an organization that is a direct spinoff from the old American Nazi Party and that sees itself as carrying on Hitler's dream to purify the white race and prevent Jews and blacks from degrading "our" culture -- responds:

"How about Applebee's? I'll be coming with my wife, baby, and one other member. We can meet in the reception area. I'll be coming with two women and a baby?"

Bingo! I've got a date with hate! And who doesn't love Applebee's? It has quality dinners and a wide selection -- and all at budget prices!


IMO, mockery of such people is good (now I'm talking about the supremacists, not the QT3 people, although .. oh, never mind), but should not replace careful scrutiny of their aims and activities by all citizens.
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Postby The Preacher » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:11 pm

Uh oh, I'm on the path to ruin...

I tilt my head back and reflect, "I started to dislike Canadians, then moved on from there." Under my breath, I mutter, "Fucking Canadians."
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Postby Trent Steel » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:11 pm

I tilt my head back and reflect, "I started to dislike Canadians, then moved on from there." Under my breath, I mutter, "Fucking Canadians."


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Postby Freezer-TPF- » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:13 pm

The Preacher wrote:Uh oh, I'm on the path to ruin...

I tilt my head back and reflect, "I started to dislike Canadians, then moved on from there." Under my breath, I mutter, "Fucking Canadians."


I have been saying for years that hating Canadians is just a gateway drug to white supremacy, but does anyone listen? Noooo.
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Postby Mr. Fed » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:14 pm

Freezer-TPF- wrote:
The Preacher wrote:Uh oh, I'm on the path to ruin...

I tilt my head back and reflect, "I started to dislike Canadians, then moved on from there." Under my breath, I mutter, "Fucking Canadians."


I have been saying for years that hating Canadians is just a gateway drug to white supremacy, but does anyone listen? Noooo.


I don't hate Canadians. I just like to celebrate the separateness and distinctiveness of my culture from theirs.
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Postby Trent Steel » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:15 pm

Preacher you bastard! :wink:
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Postby The Preacher » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:21 pm

Trent Steel wrote:Preacher you bastard! :wink:

By the hair of my chiny, chin, chin.

And NO, that's not a reference to Chinese people!

Or is it? :ninja:
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Postby Eduardo X » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:26 pm

Skrewdriver was a respectable Oi! band back in the day. Their lead singer died, however, and IIRC, they started getting into white supremecy, becoming the first racist skinhead band.
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Postby Fireball1244 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:53 pm

What a fascinating article. I cheered at the end when he said he was going to give the meeting location to the ADF.

I'll certianly never feel comfortable around white people after reading that.
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Postby CSL » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:00 pm

Fireball1244 wrote:I'll certianly never feel comfortable around white people after reading that.


Holy generalization Batman!
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Postby The Preacher » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:21 pm

CSL wrote:
Fireball1244 wrote:I'll certianly never feel comfortable around white people after reading that.


Holy generalization Batman!

He's joking.

I think.

I hope.
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Postby Austin » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:23 pm

The Preacher wrote:
CSL wrote:
Fireball1244 wrote:I'll certianly never feel comfortable around white people after reading that.


Holy generalization Batman!

He's joking.

I think.

I hope.


Wait! Kirk's gay??!! :shock:
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Postby Fireball1244 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:30 pm

The Preacher wrote:
CSL wrote:
Fireball1244 wrote:I'll certianly never feel comfortable around white people after reading that.


Holy generalization Batman!

He's joking.

I think.

I hope.


White people frighten me. You ever notice how there was no crime in the United States until we had white people running our country?
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Postby The Preacher » Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:33 pm

/phew
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Postby Bruce » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:02 pm

There is a similar thing happening in .au with a young man called Darp shining the spotlight on our local white supremacists.
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Postby Discalced » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:06 pm

Applebees supports ethnic cleansing? Steer clear of the dark meat fajita quesadillas.
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Postby Enough » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:20 pm

...as perky waiters and waitresses bounce with big smiles from one table to another


With big smiles? 8)

Edit, googling the quoted bigot bits in the article can be quite the revelation. It would appear The Alliance might be where a lot of this stuff came from.
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Postby Little Raven » Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:54 pm

Reading this is just sad. Looking at reviews for David Duke's My Awakening is even more sad.
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Postby SuperHiro » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:00 pm

I read some of those reviews.

If you have to preface anything you say with statements affirming your connection (if any) to Judaism ("I'm a non-Jewish Polish Immigrant"), then maybe... just maybe, you shouldn't say it at all. Being the child of Polish WWII immigrants doesn't give you a "hate jews" pass.
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Postby Austin » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:18 pm

SuperHiro wrote:I read some of those reviews.

If you have to preface anything you say with statements affirming your connection (if any) to Judaism ("I'm a non-Jewish Polish Immigrant"), then maybe... just maybe, you shouldn't say it at all. Being the child of Polish WWII immigrants doesn't give you a "hate jews" pass.


Yeah, it's like on the WoW forums. I don't want to make a post where I whine like everybody else but... /proceed to whine like everybody else.

That and, I actually have a good friend who's white/black/gay/straight/...
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Wait. Jesus never got married and was close to his mom...

Postby Al » Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:32 pm

Austin wrote:Wait! Kirk's gay??!! :shock:


Maybe these people can fix that.
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Postby WPD » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:31 pm

Austin wrote:That and, I actually have a good friend who's white/black/gay/straight/...


All at once!?
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Postby Mr. Fed » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:34 pm

WPD wrote:
Austin wrote:That and, I actually have a good friend who's white/black/gay/straight/...


All at once!?


He's complicated.
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Re: Wait. Jesus never got married and was close to his mom..

Postby Fireball1244 » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:22 pm

Al wrote:
Austin wrote:Wait! Kirk's gay??!! :shock:


Maybe these people can fix that.


Lots of hot gay singles in those meetings.
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Postby UsulofDoom » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:22 am

What's the definition of a hate group? Should all hate groups be disbanded?
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Postby Fretmute » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:45 am

UsulofDoom wrote:What's the definition of a hate group? Should all hate groups be disbanded?


Groups that hate the Playa ought to be banned, but it's OK to hate the Game.
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Postby Mr. Fed » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:57 am

Fretmute wrote:
UsulofDoom wrote:What's the definition of a hate group? Should all hate groups be disbanded?


Groups that hate the Playa ought to be banned, but it's OK to hate the Game.


Props to Fretmute. :lol:


UsulofDoom, I assume you aren't implying that by criticizing and watching avowedly racist groups, people are implying that they should be disbanded. I don't think ANY groups should be "disbanded," save perhaps groups devoted to, and imminently engaged in, unlawful conduct -- and even then, the focus should be on the acts and the people, not the group.

You could probably get a lot of definitions of hate groups. I don't think that the label has any legal signficance, so it doesn't concern me much. But I would call a hate group any group that holds as a central part of its identity a notion of the inherent inferiority of another ethnicity/etc.
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Re: Wait. Jesus never got married and was close to his mom..

Postby Austin » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:44 am

Fireball1244 wrote:
Al wrote:
Austin wrote:Wait! Kirk's gay??!! :shock:


Maybe these people can fix that.


Lots of hot gay singles in those meetings.


This picture is kinda' funny though right?
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Postby Austin » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:46 am

Mr. Fed wrote:
WPD wrote:
Austin wrote:That and, I actually have a good friend who's white/black/gay/straight/...


All at once!?


He's complicated.


Image He's bi.
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Postby Eightball » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:43 pm

"A review of Ann Coulter's book Slander reads, "Slander is fast, funny and factual. Although, unless you know the code, it can also be frustrating. The secret code is this: Almost every time you read the word 'liberal,' think 'Jew.' [Sounds like a crazy racist drinking game to me.]"

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Postby Little Raven » Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:57 pm

Let's cut to the chase here. I'm half-Hispanic, half-Irish. What racial supremacy groups are looking out for my interests? How do I fit into David Duke's segregated utopia?
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Postby UsulofDoom » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:08 pm

Let's cut to the chase here. I'm half-Hispanic, half-Irish. What racial supremacy groups are looking out for my interests? How do I fit into David Duke's segregated utopia?


That's the problem with it. No one is 100% pure any thing. Until we treat each other as humans and not by race or religion their will always be problems.
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