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by **Flatlander** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:56 am

HBO has finished casting George RR Martin's Game of Thrones. Here's a list of the actors and their pictures.

Looks like a great cast. Reading the books, I'd pictured most of the characters very differently. For some reason, I kind of had Ned Stark pictured as Charlton Heston in El Cid.
Cersei Lannister was Kate Vernon (Ellen Tigh from BSG). Brian Blessed was King Robert. Syrio Forel was Patrick Stewart, Bill Fagerbakke as Hodor, etc.

Gotta say, Rory Mccan, the actor playing the Hound, is one mean looking cuss.

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:17 pm

Many times in the books, Arya was characterized as being "horsefaced." I wondered what poor kid they would find to fit that description. They picked one that is anything but.

by **wire** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:32 pm

I like some of the choices but the choices for Cersai and Jamie don't do it for me. I know they can Hollywood them up but they just don't have the brother and sister vibe going at all.

No Hodor? While reading the books I always pictured Bill Fagerbakke from Coach. He may be too old but it's how I envisioned the character. I'm guessing they are going to omit Rickon since he doesn't really add much to the books other than he and his wolf going a bit feral.

by **YellowKing** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:55 pm

I'm pretty happy with the casting. Some are scarily accurate as to what I had envisioned in my mind. Others are acceptable, and only a couple are way off base. Arya definitely being one of them that just doesn't fit the book's description whatsoever. Kind of disappointing. I actually think the girl they picked for Sansa is closer to how I envisioned Arya.

by **Flatlander** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:56 pm

wire wrote:No Hodor? While reading the books I always pictured Bill Fagerbakke from Coach. He may be too old but it's how I envisioned the character.

M-O-O-N spells Hodor!

by **Turtle** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:22 pm

Wasn't Cersei and Jaime supposed to be very, very blonde, with it being a major plot point in the books? I wonder if they'll change the hair for the show.

by **Kraegor** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:28 pm

whoa whoa whoa! are you implying that brunettes actually dye their hair blond? cuz I gotta call b.s. on that one.

snopes?

by **Little Raven** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:29 pm

Turtle wrote:Wasn't Cersei and Jaime supposed to be very, very blonde, with it being a major plot point in the books?

Yes, but I'm sure every character is going to undergo quite a bit of makeup for the part. Won't be a concern.

by **Teggy** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:46 pm

I can't recall if Gregor Clegane doesn't appear much in the first book, but they don't have an actor for him.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:48 pm

Teggy wrote:I can't recall if Gregor Clegane doesn't appear much in the first book, but they don't have an actor for him.

Doesn't matter. Without Andre the Giant they're pretty much screwed.

by **pr0ner** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:56 pm

Sith Lord wrote:
Teggy wrote:I can't recall if Gregor Clegane doesn't appear much in the first book, but they don't have an actor for him.

Doesn't matter. Without Andre the Giant they're pretty much screwed.

CGI.

Duh.

Or are Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, and Robbie Coltrane (just to name a few actors who have had their sizes changed for a role) naturally that small or large?

by **Kraegor** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:00 pm

pretty much why the only thing I care about is whether or not the person in question has the acting chops to pull off the part.

appearance can be radically adjusted for anyone...(Joker?) but they can't magically make them good actors...

by **Archinerd** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:09 pm

Jeff V wrote:Many times in the books, Arya was characterized as being "horsefaced." I wondered what poor kid they would find to fit that description. They picked one that is anything but.

First thing I noticed too. I was kind of hoping they would have an ugly kid, but oh well.

by **rrmorton** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:11 pm

pr0ner wrote:CGI.

Duh.

Or are Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, and Robbie Coltrane (just to name a few actors who have had their sizes changed for a role) naturally that small or large?

Cranky and harsh! In kind of a sour mood today, proner?

by **Kraegor** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:16 pm

Archinerd wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Many times in the books, Arya was characterized as being "horsefaced." I wondered what poor kid they would find to fit that description. They picked one that is anything but.

First thing I noticed too. I was kind of hoping they would have an ugly kid, but oh well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28film%29

by **TiLT** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:23 pm

Teggy wrote:I can't recall if Gregor Clegane doesn't appear much in the first book, but they don't have an actor for him.

Only the pilot has been greenlit so far, and Gregor Clegane doesn't appear in it. They'll cast him when the show starts full production.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:24 pm

rrmorton wrote:Cranky and harsh! In kind of a sour mood today, proner?

Today??

by **Remus West** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:35 pm

rrmorton wrote:
pr0ner wrote:CGI.

Duh.

Or are Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, and Robbie Coltrane (just to name a few actors who have had their sizes changed for a role) naturally that small or large?

Cranky and harsh! In kind of a sour mood today, proner?

I was just going to say that the first two really are that freakishly small. :lol:

by **pr0ner** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:13 pm

rrmorton wrote:
pr0ner wrote:CGI.

Duh.

Or are Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, and Robbie Coltrane (just to name a few actors who have had their sizes changed for a role) naturally that small or large?

Cranky and harsh! In kind of a sour mood today, proner?

Well, you'd think people on this message forum in particular would know better. :twisted:

by **Archinerd** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:43 pm

Kraegor wrote:
Archinerd wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Many times in the books, Arya was characterized as being "horsefaced." I wondered what poor kid they would find to fit that description. They picked one that is anything but.

First thing I noticed too. I was kind of hoping they would have an ugly kid, but oh well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28film%29

It's not that they can't make her ugly, I just wanted to see an ugly kid catch a break. Kind of like that one armed guy in the Dawn of the Dead remake. He was born to be a zombie!

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:46 pm

Archinerd wrote:
Kraegor wrote:
Archinerd wrote:
Jeff V wrote:Many times in the books, Arya was characterized as being "horsefaced." I wondered what poor kid they would find to fit that description. They picked one that is anything but.

First thing I noticed too. I was kind of hoping they would have an ugly kid, but oh well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_%28film%29

It's not that they can't make her ugly, I just wanted to see an ugly kid catch a break. Kind of like that one armed guy in the Dawn of the Dead remake. He was born to be a zombie!

The thing is, a "horseface" is long, not round. This kid's face is almost perfectly round. She would need to spend hours in make-up having facial extensions applied -- seems like it would be easier to just find an uglier kid.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:49 pm

Jeff V wrote:The thing is, a "horseface" is long, not round. This kid's face is almost perfectly round. She would need to spend hours in make-up having facial extensions applied -- seems like it would be easier to just find an uglier kid.

Or it could be that they'll just leave out the horseface part, since it's not particularly relevant to anything that ever actually happened in the books and people generally prefer to look at pretty people on TV.

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:53 pm

Sith Lord wrote:
Jeff V wrote:The thing is, a "horseface" is long, not round. This kid's face is almost perfectly round. She would need to spend hours in make-up having facial extensions applied -- seems like it would be easier to just find an uglier kid.

Or it could be that they'll just leave out the horseface part, since it's not particularly relevant to anything that ever actually happened in the books and people generally prefer to look at pretty people on TV.

Umm, yeah, it kind of is. A pretty girl trying to flee without drawing suspicion and masquerade as a boy isn't as easy as an ugly girl who is able to pass naturally. Much of her character is tom-boy like and androgynous.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:08 pm

Jeff V wrote:Umm, yeah, it kind of is. A pretty girl trying to flee without drawing suspicion and masquerade as a boy isn't as easy as an ugly girl who is able to pass naturally. Much of her character is tom-boy like and androgynous.

Yeah, but she doesn't have to be ugly to be either of those things.

by **Zaxxon** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:29 pm

I think they got Dany pretty right.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:52 pm

Zaxxon wrote:I think they got Dany pretty right.

Agreed. I think a lot of these look terrific. Joffrey and Viserys look fantastic. And Jason Momoa (formerly of Stargate Atlantis) as Khal Drogo is awesome.

by **WYBaugh** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:04 pm

I like the majority...Sandor Clegane is pretty dead on. I really don't like Jaime. I think Mark Addy will do a great Robert.

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:20 pm

Sith Lord wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:I think they got Dany pretty right.

Agreed. I think a lot of these look terrific. Joffrey and Viserys look fantastic. And Jason Momoa (formerly of Stargate Atlantis) as Khal Drogo is awesome.

Tamzin Merchant has done nude scenes in The Tudors...and she's playing a 13-yr old girl in this? Creepy.

by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:27 pm

Jeff V wrote:
Sith Lord wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:I think they got Dany pretty right.

Agreed. I think a lot of these look terrific. Joffrey and Viserys look fantastic. And Jason Momoa (formerly of Stargate Atlantis) as Khal Drogo is awesome.

Tamzin Merchant has done nude scenes in The Tudors...and she's playing a 13-yr old girl in this? Creepy.

Spoiler:

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:38 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Jeff V wrote:
Sith Lord wrote:
Zaxxon wrote:I think they got Dany pretty right.

Agreed. I think a lot of these look terrific. Joffrey and Viserys look fantastic. And Jason Momoa (formerly of Stargate Atlantis) as Khal Drogo is awesome.

Tamzin Merchant has done nude scenes in The Tudors...and she's playing a 13-yr old girl in this? Creepy.

Spoiler:
A 13-yo girl who gets married to the equivalent of Genghis Khan, complete with a scene about the wedding night.

I kind of wondered how they were going to handle all of the kiddie sex in the books. They don't appear to have an adult playing Sansa, though.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:22 pm

Jeff V wrote:I kind of wondered how they were going to handle all of the kiddie sex in the books. They don't appear to have an adult playing Sansa, though.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they were modifying something (and I can't remember what) to accommodate the Dany/Drogo scenes. Either they were toning down/eliminating the sex, or they were changing her age. Not sure which of those would be harder to do - the sex pretty much directly leads to the dragons being born (well, indirectly, but they're certainly related), but the age is fairly critical to the whole timeline (though they'd only need to adjust it by 2-3 years, which might be feasible. Trying to sort through Martin's ASoIaF timeline makes me brain hurt).

As for Sansa, she hasn't yet (as of A Feast for Crows) had sex with anybody and isn't necessarily going to anytime soon.

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:27 pm

Sith Lord wrote:As for Sansa, she hasn't yet (as of A Feast for Crows) had sex with anybody and isn't necessarily going to anytime soon.

She sure got nekkid plenty of times, voluntarily or not.

by **Odin** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:33 pm

Jeff V wrote:
Sith Lord wrote:As for Sansa, she hasn't yet (as of A Feast for Crows) had sex with anybody and isn't necessarily going to anytime soon.

She sure got nekkid plenty of times, voluntarily or not.

True enough. I suppose that's what her hands are for.

by **Jeff V** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:34 pm

Maybe they'll pull a Brooke Shields and trot her out bare-assed anyway.

by **TiLT** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:27 am

They're rewriting Dany's age for the show because they wanted to keep the sex scenes from the book. Everyone agreed that they were more important.

by **Kraegor** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:29 am

Sith Lord wrote:
Jeff V wrote:The thing is, a "horseface" is long, not round. This kid's face is almost perfectly round. She would need to spend hours in make-up having facial extensions applied -- seems like it would be easier to just find an uglier kid.

Or it could be that they'll just leave out the horseface part, since it's not particularly relevant to anything that ever actually happened in the books and people generally prefer to look at pretty people on TV.

well I'm amused by the imagery of them just goin out back beatin the crap outta someone with a long face.

walk around with a ruler... <measuring>.... yup ok we got a match! and then POW! ZAP! BAM! hmm ok looks pretty ugly now... bring her along....

by **Teggy** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:48 am

Kraegor wrote:
Sith Lord wrote:
Jeff V wrote:The thing is, a "horseface" is long, not round. This kid's face is almost perfectly round. She would need to spend hours in make-up having facial extensions applied -- seems like it would be easier to just find an uglier kid.

Or it could be that they'll just leave out the horseface part, since it's not particularly relevant to anything that ever actually happened in the books and people generally prefer to look at pretty people on TV.

well I'm amused by the imagery of them just goin out back beatin the crap outta someone with a long face.

walk around with a ruler... <measuring>.... yup ok we got a match! and then POW! ZAP! BAM! hmm ok looks pretty ugly now... bring her along....

Yeah, the only real important part of the Arya actress is that she could pass for a boy with her hair cut.

by **Zaxxon** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:53 am

And that she's super-skinny.

by **Sparhawk** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:38 pm

The actor they picked for Lord Joffery is perfect.

by **Jag** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:11 pm

I didn't realize that Cersei is also the queen from 300. She is super sexy :wub:

Although for some reason I pictured Cersei as a bitchy blond.

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