New Capitalism-style browser game

[Lorini]

www.ratjoy.com. It's free, my system is still virus free (or at least MSE says it is) and this seems kind of fun. My company is Xiao-Xiao Goods and my name is Mayveena in game. I just started last night so I don't know much, but I really enjoyed Capitalism.

[noxiousdog]

I got in. Thanks for pointing this out.

[rubyton]

Thanks Lorini!
So this is why we suddenly went from 50 to 90 users in 2 days

Anyways, just to make sure we're getting the right audience I'll be posting some pictures here - and if you are not scared away by the charts and numbers please PM Ratan Joyce once you're in the game OR post in the in-game forums to ask for a Newbie Loan. (Interest rate is only 0.2%/day)

EDIT: Oh, I noticed new users can't post pictures , guess you'll just have to go directly into the game then.

[Reemul]

Will this work in the iPad 2 browser as I fancy this to play at work

[Reemul]

I remotes in to my home pc for now. In game as Iain and company is called Liege Industries.

[Vorret]

Well this was shortlived.
I'm stuck at :

Tutorial - Quest Revisited


To supply products for the quest, just click on the "Supply Quest Items" link inside of the quest dialogue.


Problem is... there's no link anywhere lol.
I tried logging out and in but nothing.
Also there's a display bug where I don't see everything, I tried relogging, switching from IE to Chrome... nothing so yeah.

Next.

[LordMortis]

How'd I miss this? Trying it out now.

I am apparently an apple farmer.

Vorret, you needed to click on the Quests button up top to the right.

[Vorret]

How'd I miss this? Trying it out now.

I am apparently an apple farmer.

Vorret, you needed to click on the Quests button up top to the right.

That's what I did, I click the quest and it's the text I see.

[LordMortis]

How'd I miss this? Trying it out now.

I am apparently an apple farmer.

Vorret, you needed to click on the Quests button up top to the right.

That's what I did, I click the quest and it's the text I see.

Weird. After I clicked on the quests button, I got that and then it instructed me to click on another button up top, it was the only button that was greyed out. The warehouse button I think. Pretty much ever phase of the quest either directed to you the only thing that wasn't greyed out or to a subscreen where you only had one option.

[Vorret]

there:
when I click start :




when I click the quest icon :




halp!

[Sepiche]

Been playing this the last couple days as well. I'm Sepiche of Lemon Industries if anyone needs some quality lemons for bargain basement prices.

Few things I'm wondering about though:
Is there a better sales summary for your markets? It seems really inefficient to have to drill into each good my market sells to figure out how pricing and sales are. Seems like this could all be managed from one large spreadsheet type page that has fields to update pricing as well as sales figures.

Any way to do a transaction with another company without going to the b2b board? I'd like to give better pricing to my friends and contacts without risking someone else buying up the goods on the b2b board.

Edit: Oh, and one tip... since most agricultural stuff takes water, buy up a good supply of higher quality water (last I looked there was some 30 quality water available b2b) and use that instead of quality 0 water. That will give you a fair boost to quality, even if you haven't researched something at all.

And don't forget that the size of a building has a huge impact on how fast and efficient it is. Larger stores seem to sell more good, and larger factories and R&D do their jobs faster.

[LordMortis]

I tried playing with the settings (Gear) and it was hard to find stuff on your view. The default for me was:

Menu Tooltip - Currently ON.

Minimal Interface - Currently OFF.

I don't know it that will allow you to seem more of the screen. Once you can see more of the screen, you should be able to go back to the quests screen and then click on "supply quest items".

[Vorret]

Can't go in settings... looks like it's blocked, maybe because I'm still doing the tutorial.



I'll try on a VM maybe it'll work

[LordMortis]

Can't go in settings... looks like it's blocked, maybe because I'm still doing the tutorial.



I'll try on a VM maybe it'll work

Then I fear you may be right. You may be hosed. When I played with my settings I could make my screen look like yours by setting "Minimal Interface - Currently ON" Doing so, also blocked out the part of the screen you were trying to see. The part where you see "supply quest items".

And I concur. If I had the problem, where I couldn't do anything, I'd walk away as well. Games shouldn't be an exercise in frustration. That's what work and errands and home life are for.

[Vorret]

I restarted a new game, looks like it fixed it.

At least I wasn't 4-5 hours in!

[noxiousdog]

Thanks Lorini!
So this is why we suddenly went from 50 to 90 users in 2 days

Anyways, just to make sure we're getting the right audience I'll be posting some pictures here - and if you are not scared away by the charts and numbers please PM Ratan Joyce once you're in the game OR post in the in-game forums to ask for a Newbie Loan. (Interest rate is only 0.2%/day)

EDIT: Oh, I noticed new users can't post pictures , guess you'll just have to go directly into the game then.

Welcome! This is consuming far too much of my time

[LordMortis]

My business if officially launched. Now to wait for cashflow to start...

[Sepiche]

My business if officially launched. Now to wait for cashflow to start...

And Lemon Industries thanks you for your business!

Remember our motto: When life gives you lemons, YOU BETTER NOT FUCKING SELL THEM BECAUSE I RUN THE LEMON RACKET IN THIS TOWN!

Edit: Oh and another thing people might not notice at first: you and your company are separate, and you start the game with about a million dollars that you can transfer into your company or buy stocks with. To transfer money it's City > Bank > Transfer Cash.

[Vorret]

Business also started.

Lime, the green lemon

I'm probably gonna be bankrupt by the end of the day, I suck at these type of games lol

[LordMortis]

My business if officially launched. Now to wait for cashflow to start...

And Lemon Industries thanks you for your business!

Remember our motto: When life gives you lemons, YOU BETTER NOT FUCKING SELL THEM BECAUSE I RUN THE LEMON RACKET IN THIS TOWN!

Edit: Oh and another thing people might not notice at first: you and your company are separate, and you start the game with about a million dollars that you can transfer into your company or buy stocks with. To transfer money it's City > Bank > Transfer Cash.

I may have even bought lemons off you. I bought every bit farmer's market goods I could afford to turn around and sell and it took like an hour of work time. We'll see how well discounting prices does to keep inventory moving.

[LordMortis]

Edit: Oh and another thing people might not notice at first: you and your company are separate, and you start the game with about a million dollars that you can transfer into your company or buy stocks with. To transfer money it's City > Bank > Transfer Cash.

I saw that only after I clicked on the welfare link. I transferred all of my money and now I'm broke. Hopefully, I collect a draw from my apple farm and farmers market. I probably should have bought stocks but I have no idea how the stock game works.

[Sepiche]

I probably should have bought stocks but I have no idea how the stock game works.

There's only a handful of companies at this point large enough to have had an IPO. I basically just bought a few shares of one of the better looking ones and let them ride.

[Sepiche]

I may have even bought lemons off you. I bought every bit farmer's market goods I could afford to turn around and sell and it took like an hour of work time. We'll see how well discounting prices does to keep inventory moving.

hehe Just joking about the Lemon racket thing. And if anyone needs lemons on the cheap just let me know and I can post them to the b2b at discount rates as long as you are there to buy them up swiftly afterwards.

I'm finding it interesting going in and constantly tweaking prices to get the best balance between sales volume and revenue. I wish there was a little better interface for it as I mentioned, but there's definitely an advantage to offering goods at a lower price point.

[LordMortis]

I'm finding it interesting going in and constantly tweaking prices to get the best balance between sales volume and revenue. I wish there was a little better interface for it as I mentioned, but there's definitely an advantage to offering goods at a lower price point.

I have no idea how monitor for that sweet spot. I also have no idea how the size of my store affects sales.

[Vorret]

just to know if I'm on the right track... I uppgraded my Lime farm, started producing Lime, did the 2 daily quest, built a farmers market, set a price (1.80$ since they're only Q15).

Now we wait and hope my stuff sells?

[Vorret]

lol... I must have made a mistake somewhere as my CEO name is Green Lemon.

[Sepiche]

just to know if I'm on the right track... I uppgraded my Lime farm, started producing Lime, did the 2 daily quest, built a farmers market, set a price (1.80$ since they're only Q15).

Now we wait and hope my stuff sells?

That's how I started off (except with Lemons), but once I figured things out there's a lot more you can do to start growing.
1) Buy up lower priced goods off the b2b market that you can sell in your market. There's a filter on the b2b board that will show you only goods that can be sold in a farmers market. There's lots of other things you can sell and make a profit off of. I think I'm selling 20 or so different goods in my farmers market right now.
2) Build R&D. If you plan on staying with your starting farm for now, an Agricultural R&D building can improve all of those goods.
3) Look for goods that you can sell that aren't on the market and start researching and growing them. There's quite a few farmers market goods that aren't available on the market. I just picked on and started doing research and growing for it.
4) Expand the size of your factories, markets, and R&D. The larger they are the more they make and sell.
5) You start out with enough money that I think you could safely move into another industry. Since everyone starts off in agriculture I'm thinking making a jump over to mining or something else is a pretty good idea in the short term.

In particular I've noticed there's a huge lack of quality meats on the b2b right now so I think there's lots of room for a few people to move into that.

[LordMortis]

just to know if I'm on the right track... I uppgraded my Lime farm, started producing Lime, did the 2 daily quest, built a farmers market, set a price (1.80$ since they're only Q15).

Now we wait and hope my stuff sells?

I did that and then I took out a loan and bought a bunch of stuff to sell in my farmers market. I also built a water plant, a natural gas plant, and electricity station so I can self sustain my apple orchard. I've got like 10k left, so now I'm waiting for stuff to sell so I can grow or die...

[Sepiche]

and electricity station

Actually I think that's probably a good idea to expand. There's quite a bit of electricity on the market, but it's all 0 quality. If you put some money into R&D you could start selling it on the market and make a pretty good profit I would think. Not sure how much capital it would take to setup and produce it at the quantities you'd need though.

[noxiousdog]

Are any of y'all Wine?

[LordMortis]

and electricity station

Actually I think that's probably a good idea to expand. There's quite a bit of electricity on the market, but it's all 0 quality. If you put some money into R&D you could start selling it on the market and make a pretty good profit I would think. Not sure how much capital it would take to setup and produce it at the quantities you'd need though.

Does the quality of electricity matter? One would think the quality of goods used would make for a better quality product but I don't see anything about that.

I did see in the -opedia that you can get a sense for supply and demand and quality levels.

[Sepiche]

Does the quality of electricity matter? One would think the quality of goods used would make for a better quality product but I don't see anything about that.

Whoops you're right, it doesn't on most goods it looks like. Here's the formula for lemons at any rate:
Quality: (Elec) 0% + (Water) 25% + (Research) 75%

[Vorret]

Would be nice if the better your electricity/water the less it requires

[godhugh]

I just joined as Hugh of Hughian Industries. We're orange farmers at the moment, but are planning on moving into livestock.

[LordMortis]

In retrospect a water plant and a gas plant was mistake. You can bounce back and forth from one well to produce both (and oil). Ah well. Hopefully I can rip one down later once I get a better handle and more facilities going.

[Sepiche]

In retrospect a water plant and a gas plant was mistake. You can bounce back and forth from one well to produce both (and oil). Ah well. Hopefully I can rip one down later once I get a better handle and more facilities going.

I made the same mistake by building a beverage factory too early. You can sell your buildings for only a 10% loss I think though. Probably worth it if you aren't going to use them.

[Sepiche]

Oh, and I just noticed that Rubyton just gave everyone 3 million to celebrate reaching 100 players. Thanks mate!

Might be time to move into a new industry...

[LordMortis]

In retrospect a water plant and a gas plant was mistake. You can bounce back and forth from one well to produce both (and oil). Ah well. Hopefully I can rip one down later once I get a better handle and more facilities going.

I made the same mistake by building a beverage factory too early. You can sell your buildings for only a 10% loss I think though. Probably worth it if you aren't going to use them.

No big deal. My biggest mistake was buying 1k to 20k of goods to sell at my market, not realizing how slow the market sells nor that I could produce quality 0 fruits quickly on the cheap. Also I should have built a supermarket instead of a farmers market.

Live and learn.

[rubyton]

Thanks everyone! The "supply quest items" link is within the quest window itself, my apologies to those having a hard time finding it. I'm looking forward to fixing the tutorial.

EDIT: Ah... I see your screenshot - no wonder I haven't been getting any facebook p-layers at all

Also don't pay too much attention to quests for now, the core of the game at the moment is in the stores. Quests are given daily (and at times you can get duplicate ones with the same objective if you are lucky).

[rubyton]

I can't believe I did that with the "minimal" stylesheet. It should be fixed now and thanks so much for letting me know about this.