New Capitalism-style browser game

[LordMortis]

Wanted to collect the OO players/companies in one spot. I like to support our companies, especially if other variables are equal. So here's what I've got from the thread so far (feel free to cut/paste it to the original post):

Xiao-Xiao Goods : Lorini (Mayveena in-game)
Liege Industries : Reemul (lain in-game)
Lemon Industries : Sepiche
Hughian Industries: GodHugh (Hugh in-game)
Kraken Industries: Kraken
CitrusNation: Rumpy
Green Beavers: paulbaxter
Varity Vast Ventures: Varity
JOI Electric: Rip (CEO)

Other players - Lordmortis; Noxiousdog; Vorret; Hiccup; Matrix; Rip

I technically am still primarily Apples and apple based projects from Stygian Industries, however, I'm taking my time plodding along sticking my fingers in to most things that start on the Fruit Farm or Plantation.

Really, I don't see a way to help each other out

Nice work if you can get it Rip, only I think it would take some of the fun out of the game from me. Being gifted the kind of money that goes with baby sitting someone else's corporation a few times a day sort of detracts from the interesting obsession of building the company for me.

Anyhoo, the game still has me hooked for the moment. My 11 Million dollar enterprise is humming along, wasting a lot of money on R&D that I'm using, primarily. I have Every beverage that I can conceivably produce and all of their ingredients researched to level 4. I think so far I've made Apple Juice, Apple Cider, and Grape Juice.

I'm not a very good business man but I am generating a million a day in sales while concurrently growing an inventory.

[Vorret]

Well damn, I had to take a 2.5m loan to build a 2nd slaughterhouse.
My Pork is selling like hotcake (my market share is 45%) and I need MOAR.

Hopefully that loan won't kill my company ...

[Sepiche]

My Pork is selling like hotcake (my market share is 45%)

Shhhhhhhhhh...

[Vorret]

I'm crazy it's not 45% it's 18%. Must have read 45% somewhere else lol

[LordMortis]

Well damn, I had to take a 2.5m loan to build a 2nd slaughterhouse.
My Pork is selling like hotcake (my market share is 45%) and I need MOAR.

Hopefully that loan won't kill my company ...

The loan is nothing. At .2% you pay back $10k a day on 5 Million. Think of that in terms of product. If you could move 5 Million worth of product a day at 30% markup in game then that 5 Million would earn you 1.5 Million a day while only costing you .2% plus the 30%(?) tax after sales.

This may change when infrastructure costs come into play but building infrastructure is of course key to moving product.

As long as you are getting a ROI, you can't beat it. For this reason I'm curious as to how the IPO works. Moving from 20% to 50% of your business in loans (if the rates are at .2% per day) seems like too much to pass up. Only I don't have any personal money. I'd hate to give my company away to a hostile takeover because the IPO stock somehow isn't mine to sell. I'd also hate not controlling the dividends.

Why are you building a second slaughter house rather than expanding your first one?

[Sepiche]

It sounds like the new supply and demand changes are in, and it's not bothering me as much as I thought it might. Seems like I get roughly the same levels of profit as before from items where demand is met, but in the cases where I find an item where demand isn't met I can make a bloody fortune. On average I make between $500 and $1000 each tick from items with demand over 100%, but the more expensive items I have where demand isn't met I'm making between $5000 and $10000 a tick.

[Matrix]

Everything meat selling like hot cakes. I think i have 11% share in pork chops, and 6 or 7% share in chicken and pork.

It seems he change demand algorithms, my entire stock of 10,000 pork chops got sold out in an hour or so.

It seems supply / demand playing much larger role now. Thankfully i wasnt in fruits anymore, seems like a dead end.

My enterprise is at 10 mil atm, though if the meat market proceeds to go the way its going, it should be much sooner. I am not keeping any dreams here, i am sure it will be flooded in a day or so and back to normal demand, but while the party lasts. ...

[Vorret]

Everything meat selling like hot cakes. I think i have 11% share in pork chops, and 6 or 7% share in chicken and pork.

It seems he change demand algorithms, my entire stock of 10,000 pork chops got sold out in an hour or so.

It seems supply / demand playing much larger role now. Thankfully i wasnt in fruits anymore, seems like a dead end.

My enterprise is at 10 mil atm, though if the meat market proceeds to go the way its going, it should be much sooner. I am not keeping any dreams here, i am sure it will be flooded in a day or so and back to normal demand, but while the party lasts. ...

That's why I took the loan.
I had a crapload of pork and BAM I was selling a bit over 1k pork every 15 minutes.
I wasn'T even that close per day before lol

[LordMortis]

Moving into meats what part of my plan but I need to save 8 Million to get my next plant. That's not happening for a good long while.

[Matrix]

Ratan, few pointers on the marketing / real marketing aspect of the game. Large part of my job is analyzing websites and marketing for them, therefor i would like to help you grow this game since i like it and i think more players would be even more fun. Here is my very brief analysis.

Your first page, log in page that is, has a duck as a sample product (i dont know what could be less serious then a duck, only maybe to rat logo ), also your website has a very light, almost kids color theme. Infact, you have 3 products on front page, 2 of which are not existent. I suggest removing those 2 at least until they are ready, and just leaving EoS. Change the picture for it unless your target gamer demographic is 5 year olds who likes duckes. Also this is more of long term, consider changing domain, for example ScaleEconomy.com is not registered. You can actually buy it now for 10$. I give you 200% that with domain name change alone you will get way more subscribers.

You will notice that most players who are active are far our of the kinds age range. If you are looking to attract more people/faster, especially considering how good of a game you have on your hands and it has amazing potential, i would make color theme more serious and sample log in page more polished. Because when i saw link of Lorni, i almost didnt give it a chance because it looked like some kids game, infact i passed on registering the first time around, and only after reading this posts i joined (and i like this type of games), a lot of people wont give it a chance just because of initial appearance of login/front page.

It is up to you to use the info or not, i figured i will give my thoughts.

[Matrix]

Everything meat selling like hot cakes. I think i have 11% share in pork chops, and 6 or 7% share in chicken and pork.

It seems he change demand algorithms, my entire stock of 10,000 pork chops got sold out in an hour or so.

It seems supply / demand playing much larger role now. Thankfully i wasnt in fruits anymore, seems like a dead end.

My enterprise is at 10 mil atm, though if the meat market proceeds to go the way its going, it should be much sooner. I am not keeping any dreams here, i am sure it will be flooded in a day or so and back to normal demand, but while the party lasts. ...

That's why I took the loan.
I had a crapload of pork and BAM I was selling a bit over 1k pork every 15 minutes.
I wasn'T even that close per day before lol

Yeh, i actually have 3 plants going, since i like to have access to multiple meats to sell in my market. I try to charge more if i see my production is not up to snaff, i think i doubled and tripled prices on some meats after the patch.

[docD]

Wanted to collect the OO players/companies in one spot. I like to support our companies, especially if other variables are equal. So here's what I've got from the thread so far (feel free to cut/paste it to the original post):

Xiao-Xiao Goods : Lorini (Mayveena in-game)
Liege Industries : Reemul (lain in-game)
Lemon Industries : Sepiche
Hughian Industries: GodHugh (Hugh in-game)
Kraken Industries: Kraken
CitrusNation: Rumpy
Green Beavers: paulbaxter
Varity Vast Ventures: Varity
JOI Electric: Rip (CEO)

Other players - Lordmortis; Noxiousdog; Vorret; Hiccup; Matrix; Rip

I'm playing too, Wild Industries. Still in Ag right now, but I've started moving in meat and processing my fruit into juice.

[Rumpy]

I know what you mean, Mortis. I don't mind being helped in order to start off with and get things going, but I think it's really satisfying when you can make things work and try to be self-sufficient. I was going to pump my own water, but after I've seen the taxes come in, I've decided to sell off my pump, so I'll buy water and then filter it. The taxes are quite scary, so with all this money, it can be easy to build too much and then lose a lot on taxes if you don't have a big enough revenue stream.

And I do agree with Matrix. I originally was going to pass on it, but only joined in once I saw how successful it was, but if it weren't for that, I probably wouldn't have touched it. Showed the game to a friend of mine who said it looked cartoony. That's not to say it's bad, but I think it needs a refined look and colour scheme. Everything else about it is good though, make no mistake. I'm highly enjoying it once I got passed that.

[rubyton]

Ratan, few pointers on the marketing / real marketing aspect of the game. Large part of my job is analyzing websites and marketing for them, therefor i would like to help you grow this game since i like it and i think more p layers would be even more fun. Here is my very brief analysis.

Your first page, log in page that is, has a duck as a sample product (i dont know what could be less serious then a duck, only maybe to rat logo ), also your website has a very light, almost kids color theme. Infact, you have 3 products on front page, 2 of which are not existent. I suggest removing those 2 at least until they are ready, and just leaving EoS. Change the picture for it unless your target gamer demographic is 5 year olds who likes duckes. Also this is more of long term, consider changing domain, for example ScaleEconomy.com is not registered. You can actually buy it now for 10$. I give you 200% that with domain name change alone you will get way more subscribers.

You will notice that most p layers who are active are far our of the kinds age range. If you are looking to attract more people/faster, especially considering how good of a game you have on your hands and it has amazing potential, i would make color theme more serious and sample log in page more polished. Because when i saw link of Lorni, i almost didnt give it a chance because it looked like some kids game, infact i passed on registering the first time around, and only after reading this posts i joined (and i like this type of games), a lot of people wont give it a chance just because of initial appearance of login/front page.

It is up to you to use the info or not, i figured i will give my thoughts.

Thanks, I think you're absolutely right, you're the 2nd person to tell me this. The first asked me to change the rat logo and the 5-year-old words, but thought the other 2 placeholder images are ok.

The actual domain I had is actually rationaljoy.com, but then I bought ratjoy too after I found out it's not taken (and only 6 letters!)
I'm too busy with putting in actual gaming mechanisms at the moment, but I'm sure the front page will get a major overhaul after I make enough changes in the game - probably before I put a government system in the game.

Also major thanks to everyone who answered others' questions here before I had a chance to look here

[LordMortis]

The taxes are quite scary, so with all this money, it can be easy to build too much and then lose a lot on taxes if you don't have a big enough revenue stream.

I did nearly 2 Mil in sales yesterday. My earnings were 26k. I also didn't hardly expand the value of my company at all. I went 11 Mil to 11.9. But I'm pretty happy with keeping on keeping on.

I don't think the supply and demand is working as anticipated though. I had a happy little no investment thing going with turning around Elry's Jewelry in micro volumes for almost no cost at about a 30% markup from his wholesale every 45 minutes, netting me an average of around $20,000 an hour based on about an initial $300,000 investment. He has since pulled all of his millions and millions of jewelry off the B2B market. I'm guessing he has done so because he actually saw his demand shoot up and he can make a shitton more money selling the jewelry himself.

Losing him will cost me about half of my revenue stream and I don't have time to re-balance my sales according to demand while at work. That will probably take about two hours of my time, sampling prices and their effects on the current market to find the new locus for (presumably a less stable) equilibrium. I think I will be able to make the new locus more profitable though.

[Matrix]

Ratan, few pointers on the marketing / real marketing aspect of the game. Large part of my job is analyzing websites and marketing for them, therefor i would like to help you grow this game since i like it and i think more p layers would be even more fun. Here is my very brief analysis.

Your first page, log in page that is, has a duck as a sample product (i dont know what could be less serious then a duck, only maybe to rat logo ), also your website has a very light, almost kids color theme. Infact, you have 3 products on front page, 2 of which are not existent. I suggest removing those 2 at least until they are ready, and just leaving EoS. Change the picture for it unless your target gamer demographic is 5 year olds who likes duckes. Also this is more of long term, consider changing domain, for example ScaleEconomy.com is not registered. You can actually buy it now for 10$. I give you 200% that with domain name change alone you will get way more subscribers.

You will notice that most p layers who are active are far our of the kinds age range. If you are looking to attract more people/faster, especially considering how good of a game you have on your hands and it has amazing potential, i would make color theme more serious and sample log in page more polished. Because when i saw link of Lorni, i almost didnt give it a chance because it looked like some kids game, infact i passed on registering the first time around, and only after reading this posts i joined (and i like this type of games), a lot of people wont give it a chance just because of initial appearance of login/front page.

It is up to you to use the info or not, i figured i will give my thoughts.

Thanks, I think you're absolutely right, you're the 2nd person to tell me this. The first asked me to change the rat logo and the 5-year-old words, but thought the other 2 placeholder images are ok.

The actual domain I had is actually rationaljoy.com, but then I bought ratjoy too after I found out it's not taken (and only 6 letters!)
I'm too busy with putting in actual gaming mechanisms at the moment, but I'm sure the front page will get a major overhaul after I make enough changes in the game - probably before I put a government system in the game.

Also major thanks to everyone who answered others' questions here before I had a chance to look here

I have built business based on initial domain names and has done domain investing for years, two of my biggest successes been largely due to good domain names. 6 letters with no meaning is not nearly as good as direct meaning of the project. Both rational joy and rat joy, have no meaning in regards to what game is about. This is not as relevant as look revamp, but still could help a lot in long run.

[Kraken]

I think it's really satisfying when you can make things work and try to be self-sufficient.

Yeah, I've been playing the same way. I'm not interested in making money so much as in bootstrapping my way to producing goods. After several days and millions of dollars sunk I'm just now getting close to making all of the ingredients for a few foodstuffs (pastries, breads, and beverages).

[Rip]

I am taking small amounts of cash and working on my new startup called RipBan making sunglasses. Sold a few on the b2b market, trying to get my R&D up before I start doing much production.

RipBan sunglasses for the executive that has everything!

[Mold Maker]

I'm in, too. Name is '> Gary' and company is 'Apple'. My focus is pepper.

[Rip]

Electricity is going up so buy cheap while you can.

[Mold Maker]

Electricity is going up so buy cheap while you can.

Says the CEO of an electric company...

[Fitzy]

Electricity is going up so buy cheap while you can.

Says the CEO of an electric company...

Time for a Congressional inquiry.

[Madmarcus]

Slowly working into the furniture business but I really need around $1,000,000 more to swing the factory and store. Building that much of a nest egg by selling limes is going to be slow to say the least.

[Madmarcus]

BTW is there any way to find the world price of a good if you do not have a store to sell it in? I have a couple hundred bonsai plants that I'd like to move but I have no idea what to price them at in the B2B market as I have no idea what their end price is.

[Rip]

BTW is there any way to find the world price of a good if you do not have a store to sell it in? I have a couple hundred bonsai plants that I'd like to move but I have no idea what to price them at in the B2B market as I have no idea what their end price is.

Put them up at 2X cost or a little higher and see if they sell.

[Rip]

BTW is there any way to find the world price of a good if you do not have a store to sell it in? I have a couple hundred bonsai plants that I'd like to move but I have no idea what to price them at in the B2B market as I have no idea what their end price is.

If you have time on top of running your company give me a yell and I will give you a job.

CEO positions can be rewarding.

It has helped me to learn at an accelerated pace.

Of course it ate a lot of time as well.

[Matrix]

Slowly working into the furniture business but I really need around $1,000,000 more to swing the factory and store. Building that much of a nest egg by selling limes is going to be slow to say the least.

Consider taking out a loan. I am right now loaned to my wazoo with 1.6 mil outstanding in loans. But at the moment i find expanding worth the hassle of having loan outstanding. At the moment the loan interest is not that bad, and need to expand is much greater. I am getting about 50k per tick. Which means i should be able to .... take out more loans very soon!!

[Rip]

Welcome to the CEO club Matrix!

You are officially a 1%er now

[Matrix]

lol, thanks. I think now i need to figure what makes mining industry tick. Selling energy is one, but i am sure i can make minerals work. Also i will try to do some industrial retail sales mostly based on B2B transactions.

[Kraken]

My strategy of producing finished goods for sale in my grocery store won't work without a report on what quantities I'm selling at what profit margins. I can't tell which products to emphasize and which ones to drop. Apparently I'm trying to play a different game than the one we have.

[Rip]

JOIPLAII IPOing right now, get in while it is cheap!!!

[Rumpy]

Here's an observation. Currently, the factory icon is a bunch of gears, which reminds me too much of the settings button. Would it be possible to change that to a factory to better fit the rest of the icons?

[Matrix]

JOIPLAII IPOing right now, get in while it is cheap!!!

Joi already has 1 plantation company, why get second one?

Also whats good way to scale mining, i dont want to go the normal energy route since it seems energy is pretty cheap as is, and too much commodity. I am thinking focusing on some of the metal ores could be good. What you think?

[Rip]

JOIPLAII IPOing right now, get in while it is cheap!!!

Joi already has 1 plantation company, why get second one?

Also whats good way to scale mining, i dont want to go the normal energy route since it seems energy is pretty cheap as is, and too much commodity. I am thinking focusing on some of the metal ores could be good. What you think?

Half the plantation products in each. Or almost half.

I scale for my mines to produce just enough nat gas and water to keep the power plants going. On the side I produce a little petroleum with the water well when I can and research that. Make plastic and water bottles for JOI Water.

Ask RJ if he has anything he need that you could easily produce and he would by all of. He may need Petroleum or plastic. If nothing else I would produce gasoline. I expect that market is going to grow a lot to justify gas stations

Rip

[stessier]

Andrew Wiggen has just taken over Third Chance, Inc. from his family and is looking to continue the family tradition of Orange growing. We shall see how long it takes me to drive the business into the ground. I've never played a game like this before, so it shouldn't take long at all.

[Vorret]

Darn... my new quests requires me to provide baseball bats and aquariums... none of those are on the market and I'm producing meat, not sure why I got such a random quest.

[Rip]

Darn... my new quests requires me to provide baseball bats and aquariums... none of those are on the market and I'm producing meat, not sure why I got such a random quest.

To make you lose all your money doing something ridiculous.

I grab quests that are not far out of my way, but I don't pursue many of them.

What is the reward?

[Vorret]

Nothing really interesting, both are exacly the same, only the item is different :

Objective: Supply a batch of . Supply Quest Items

Progress: 240 more needed.

Reward: $46,800.00 984

Time Left: 189:38:15 (Expires on April 11, 2012, 3:59 AM)

[Vorret]

The best one was this :

Objective: Research to improve its quality to 9 or above.

Reward: $51.59 351

Completed on: April 1, 2012, 1:50 PM

51$? Really? lol

[Vorret]

I also don't get the Marketing stuff...

ie:

Current Marketing Power: 31.0 M
Current Effect: +74.65%
Estimated New Power: 31.0 M
Estimated New Effect: +74.65%


How does this affect my sales?