OOWW: JLA ... GAME OVER!

[RMC]

My suspects, and I will be sticking to this list (in order)

Grund
Theohall (clearly...)
Austin ( )
Lagom
coop
-- -- -- --
RMC
Mr Bubbles
-- -- -- --
tru1cy (small)
Purge (loco lantern)
bb2112 (busted Grund)
Lassr (protect on the only night we currently think may have been conversion)
Isgrimnur ("proven" by Remus)
Remus ("proven" by attempt/desire/claim to be willing to shoot Superman)
El Guapo (smells like flowers)

I am not evil, and I disagree with your proven list.. We have no provens as far as I am concerned. And shooting Isg only proves that Remus says he shot someone.

Why Remus thought it was a good idea to keep one almost positive team evil guy alive for a night cycle is beyond me. I move Remus to the maybe converted to team evil, or always has been evil side.

But as I have seen in other games once you make a list it makes no difference, as you will not change your mind for anything. So let's see if we can work without you if someone other than Austin is on the chopping block.. <sigh>

[El Guapo]

Remus was acting pursuant to group talk and with lots of notice. He could be evil (that talk could be convenient cover), he could not be GA, but I don't take the shot as evidence evilitude.

But, moving on with things.

 Grundbegriff 
 

[Lagom Lite]

 Grundbegriff 
 


I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

[Unagi]

I am not evil

And I have you nearly at the bottom of my list, right?

and I disagree with your proven list.

Did I make a proven list?
I think I wrote the word 'proven' twice up there, and I put it in quotes.... We have all been through this, oh, about a million times.

Forgive me if I still find some value in the word, as I think it describes people that I currently feel are 'good' and 'why'.

And shooting Isg only proves that Remus says he shot someone.

If you read what I wrote - I actually put my faith in Remus because of what he was Prepared to do... not what he eventually did.
AND - to your Own Point - even had we SEEN HIM SHOOT, it still would not prove him. Right?

Why Remus thought it was a good idea to keep one almost positive team evil guy alive for a night cycle is beyond me.

Well, wow dude, If you are putting ANY FAITH in these two being bad guys, then you may as well put a little faith in Theohall being pretty damn harmless. Wouldn't you say?

I move Remus to the maybe converted to team evil, or always has been evil side.

Possibly converted, but I highly doubt he said he would shoot an arrow into Superman - if he didn't have a freaking arrow.

But as I have seen in other games once you make a list it makes no difference, as you will not change your mind for anything. So let's see if we can work without you if someone other than Austin is on the chopping block.. <sigh>

Huh? Where is this coming from? I list my evil candidates - and you decalare that Unagi is suddenly not playing if Austin isn't on the chopping block?

[purge]

Unagi, you said it yourself. BB could also be evil. You gonna leave a villain alive for how long? What risk does Grund pose, even if he's the joker? Do you honestly think the conversion hasn't happened yet?

Say Grund is Dr. Fate, and converted.

There is no more benefit to shooting him than shooting Theohall / Riddler.

But whatever.

Disabling Grund.

[Unagi]

I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

We get NO Results from the Shot (unless it's a villain.)

Who do YOU think we should have shot with it?

[Lagom Lite]

I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

We get NO Results from the Shot (unless it's a villain.)

Who do YOU think we should have shot with it?

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

[purge]

Done.

 Grundbegriff 
 

[coopasonic]

Yay action...

 Grundbegriff 
 

[purge]

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

WTF??? Shoot Grim today, who has no relation to BB being good or evil, and then shoot BB the next day?

Who's freakin' side are you on??

Here's a little reading for you:

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if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   GRUND   is   GOOD   THEOHALL   GOOD   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   GRUND   is   EVIL   THEOHALL   GOOD   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   GRUND   is   GOOD   THEOHALL   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   GRUND   is   EVIL   THEOHALL   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   GRUND   is   GOOD   THEOHALL   EVIL   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   GRUND   is   EVIL   THEOHALL   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   GRUND   is   GOOD   THEOHALL   EVIL   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   GRUND   is   EVIL   THEOHALL   EVIL   ?   TRUE
                                 
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   GRUND   GOOD   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   GRUND   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   GRUND   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   GRUND   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   GRUND   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   GRUND   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   GRUND   EVIL   ?   FALSE
if   BB2112   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   GRUND   EVIL   ?   TRUE
                                 
if   GRUND   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   BB2112   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   GRUND   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   BB2112   GOOD   ?   TRUE
if   GRUND   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   BB2112   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   GRUND   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   BB2112   GOOD   ?   FALSE
if   GRUND   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   BB2112   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   GRUND   is   EVIL   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   BB2112   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   GRUND   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   GOOD   BB2112   EVIL   ?   TRUE
if   GRUND   is   GOOD   AND   THEOHALL   is   EVIL   BB2112   EVIL   ?   FALSE


[El Guapo]

Wait, what? LL is not saying that we should've shot Isgrim today; that's his point. He's arguing that we should've lynched Grund today and then lynched either Theo (assuming Grund's a villain) or bb (if he came back good somehow).

Not to say that he's right, just that that's what he's arguing.

[coopasonic]

7 Grundbegriff - Mr Bubbles, bb2112, Unagi, El Guapo, Lagom Lite, purge, coopasonic
2 bb2112 - grundbegriff, theohall

1 purge - Isgrimnur
1 Unagi - Austin

No Vote: Remus West, , Lassr, RMC, , tru1cy,

15 Players remain, Majority is 8


I beleive Grund is at N-1.

[Unagi]

Unagi, you said it yourself. BB could also be evil.

I said he could be, I don't think that he is.
You understand that I am capable of talking about possible hypotheticals when I talk, right?

You gonna leave a villain alive for how long?

If you are talking about Theohall here, I am guessing we will lynch him tomorrow - unless we kill Grund as Villain and bb2112, in the morning, has some news of another more dastardly fella we should kill first.

What risk does Grund pose, even if he's the joker?

Purge There have been TWO CHANNELS that we have been playing against... and I won't be forced to defend them BOTH simultaniously.

1 - Conversion has happened on Night 1 (or can't happen)
2 - Conversion is still possible.

Please Recall that I was of the mind that we could MAYBE operate under Channel 1... Recall that I said "Hey, maybe we can just keep Superman Alive" Recall if I begged Remus if he could accept that risk. Recall that Remus said "No, I can't".

So, WE KILLED SUPERMAN.

WE PICKED CHANNEL 2. (I don't fully support it, but I will be damned if we killed Superman - but then Thumbed Our Nose at the potential CONVERSION from a Joker Grund)

Do you honestly think the conversion hasn't happened yet?

My honest thought is that I have sorta bought into Triggercut's idea that : Dr Fake was Dr Fate, and they wanted to see if anyone countered Bat Man to see if anyone would be able to tatle-tell on the Conversion.

However - Remus had us kill Superman, and that act is pointless unless we still at least serve the concern of the conversion.

Disabling Grund

Good.

[Lassr]

 Grundbegriff 
 

[purge]

Wait, what? LL is not saying that we should've shot Isgrim today; that's his point. He's arguing that we should've lynched Grund today and then lynched either Theo (assuming Grund's a villain) or bb (if he came back good somehow).

Not to say that he's right, just that that's what he's arguing.

I see what you mean.

If that's the case, then Theo frakked us up with the dumbest. move. ever.

[Unagi]

my god. Did I just type: "Bat Man" ?

[Lagom Lite]

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

WTF??? Shoot Grim today, (...) Who's freakin' side are you on??

Here's a little reading for you

Sweet, sweet irony!

[purge]

Mister Wonderwoman, sir,

you are concerned that I am a fake.

I urge you to protect me, so that I may disable our next lynch target.

Or, you know, find us another villain.

I'd be looking at LL, Austin, RMC or any one of the "humans" besides Isgrimnur.

[purge]

Unagi, your "we" in "WE KILLED SUPERMAN" ... well, I'm not in that we.

Also, since Superman is dead, the concern for conversion is seriously reduced since the insta-win isn't there anymore.

Welcome to WWVillage, population us.

I think I might have a use for my last charge... (click at your own risk)

Spoiler:

(click to embiggen)

[Lagom Lite]

Mister Wonderwoman, sir,

you are concerned that I am a fake.

I urge you to protect me, so that I may disable our next lynch target.

Or, you know, find us another villain.

I'd be looking at LL, Austin, RMC or any one of the "humans" besides Isgrimnur.

I'd urge bb2112 to target whomever he suspects is a villain. Don't waste a night on protecting anyone at this point - the only one worth protecting, after all, is bb2112.

That said, targeting purge isn't a terrible idea - I'm not at all certain he isn't a Villain. Though he's not by any means my first choice - I think I'd go for one of:

RMC
coopasonic
Mr Bubbles

[El Guapo]

You must be Green Lantern, since you seem to have spent most of the game to date compiling Green Lantern .jpgs

[Remus West]

Not sure where the vote count is but
 Grundbegriff 
 

[Isgrimnur]

Use the freaking bigimg tags and stop breaking the horizontal flow.

[coopasonic]

Not sure where the vote count is but
 Grundbegriff 
 

Should be N+1 by my count. CR must be working.

[bb2112]

I do have to give Purge a lot of credit for his images. Good or evil, they have been very entertaining.

And I think that is it on Mr. Grund.

[Lassr]

I do have to give Purge a lot of credit for his images. Good or evil, they have been very entertaining.

And I think that is it on Mr. Grund.

yeah and I don't remember that last image he used from any Saturday morning Superfriends cartoons.

[Austin]

 Grundbegriff 
 

[Unagi]

cute

[purge]

Use the freaking bigimg tags and stop breaking the horizontal flow.

Didn't know about the tag.

Edited to not throw off The Emperors New Groove.

[purge]

cute

assplain?

[purge]

You must be Green Lantern, since you seem to have had to sift through a frakk-ton of Ryan Reynolds Green Lantern .jpgs to find anything of quality.

FTFY.

[bb2112]

I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

We get NO Results from the Shot (unless it's a villain.)

Who do YOU think we should have shot with it?

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

This was my plan earlier! And we would have a bonus of a proven Purge in the deal.

Now we just have a half proven Isgrimnur, half proven Remus, and, dare I say, half proven Purge.

[Unagi]

proven to hold the power - not proven good.

la la.

[Unagi]

cute

assplain?

Austin had accused Theohall earlier with the
Now Grund with the Queen of Hearts...
Maybe the playing card is there for the Joker - that was my thought at least.

I put the 'hawk' symbol down, just cuz

[Unagi]

I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

We get NO Results from the Shot (unless it's a villain.)

Who do YOU think we should have shot with it?

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

This was my plan earlier! And we would have a bonus of a proven Purge in the deal.

Now we just have a half proven Isgrimnur, half proven Remus, and, dare I say, half proven Purge.

You have a Whole Lot of Complaints for a guy who is, Currently being taken Entirely On Faith.

dude.

[Austin]

cute

assplain?

Austin had accused Theohall earlier with the
Now Grund with the Queen of Hearts...
Maybe the playing card is there for the Joker - that was my thought at least.

I put the 'hawk' symbol down, just cuz

Was going for HQ, but if Grund is the Joker I'll claim awesomeness.

[bb2112]

proven to hold the power - not proven good.

la la.

As proven as you would be.

[Unagi]

proven to hold the power - not proven good.

la la.

As proven as you would be.

and what are you, EVEN IF/AFTER Grund turns up Evil.

proven?
11/12ths proven?
1/2 proven?

[bb2112]

I don't get the Isgrimnur shot. Waste of a shot imo.

We get NO Results from the Shot (unless it's a villain.)

Who do YOU think we should have shot with it?

We should have lynched Grundbegriff today, and shot theohall xor bb2112 tomorrow.

This was my plan earlier! And we would have a bonus of a proven Purge in the deal.

Now we just have a half proven Isgrimnur, half proven Remus, and, dare I say, half proven Purge.

You have a Whole Lot of Complaints for a guy who is, Currently being taken Entirely On Faith.

dude.

What's your point? I didn't like your plan to shoot Isgrimnur. You didn't like my plan to try and prove Purge.

I am going to complain. So lynch me.

[bb2112]

proven to hold the power - not proven good.

la la.

As proven as you would be.

and what are you, EVEN IF/AFTER Grund turns up Evil.

proven?
11/12ths proven?
1/2 proven?

Choose which ever one makes you happy. After I get killed by the evils, then you can revise it to 100%. If I don't get killed by the evils, and there is no kill at night, then revise it to 0%.