Octopus Overlords

by **noxiousdog** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:08 pm

LordMortis wrote:
stessier wrote:Scroll up a bit and join ND's forum so you can tell us all your strategies!

I've joined. I'm waiting for him to let me in. When I look at the forum I see a board index with no forums. So it's not just super secret. It's super duper secret.

Mortis and mold maker added.

by **Rip** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:33 pm

Victoria Raverna wrote:Anyone able to make good profit with the current market demand?

Based on the current tick sales, I'll not be able to make profit. 24 hours revenue minus the upkeep is less than 64000. So I am really losing money because I don't have enough leftover to restock.

I think the import and sell model is tougher now.

I went with importing just a min amount and went right to producing and selling retail.

Slow going but my little Dairy is profitable so far.

by **LordMortis** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:38 pm

Rip wrote:I think the import and sell model is tougher now.

Then I could be in trouble.

by **Madmarcus** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:12 pm

It does seem tougher to import and sell. Its making my start sort of rough until I can churn out some product.

by **Rip** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:40 pm

Madmarcus wrote:It does seem tougher to import and sell. Its making my start sort of rough until I can churn out some product.

I am at seven produced products. If there was artificial vanilla available I could produce nine. I sill have an open factory slot and two retails so I am expanding on what I have until I need to use them. Not making a lot, but have a positive cashflow which IMHO is crucial in the early game. My costs were almost $500k last night so am trying to maintain $600k+

by **noxiousdog** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:47 pm

Check your welfare and quests!

by **Rip** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:49 pm

noxiousdog wrote:Check your welfare and quests!

Yea, I bought just enough water to get one. Only needed to be like $6000, so some are stupid easy. Of course the rewards aren't awesome but you have to start somewhere. Also now is when you have low q items that many of them are only worthwhile when your q is crap.

by **stessier** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:53 pm

I am at 7 produced as well. For one of them, I have to buy/import a raw material to complete it. That is my biggest challenge at the moment. I can actually go to 8 products, I just need to get a consistent supply of the raw material first.

by **LordMortis** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:56 pm

I'm going try the utilities game though if there aren't that many players it's probably doomed to failure. We'll see what happens.

by **Rip** » Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:03 pm

I am up to $17k a tick.

by **Rip** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:04 pm

Time running out to get in before the Beta tester handouts at the end of the day Friday.

by **stessier** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:34 pm

Rip wrote:I am up to $17k a tick.

Ha-ha! My last tick was $21k.

Of course, with the current demand models, I have no idea how long that will last. It's been everywhere from 11k-21k/tick today and I haven't changed the products stocked at all.

by **Rip** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:59 pm

stessier wrote:
Rip wrote:I am up to $17k a tick.

Ha-ha! My last tick was $21k.

Of course, with the current demand models, I have no idea how long that will last. It's been everywhere from 11k-21k/tick today and I haven't changed the products stocked at all.

Doing a little over $25 now, I have only borrowed $11k in addition to the initial $4M. Will be spending all my cash before rollover tonight. Now that I know I am solvent it is time to crank up the growth machine. Looking forward to the beta tester bonus so I can start looking at enough products to fill two store types.

by **stessier** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:28 pm

Impressive. I guess I'm just doing it wrong as my networth is still less than my loan, so there's no way I can borrow more. Ah well - growing at a snail's pace is still growing.

by **Rip** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:36 pm

stessier wrote:Impressive. I guess I'm just doing it wrong as my networth is still less than my loan, so there's no way I can borrow more. Ah well - growing at a snail's pace is still growing.

Spend all your money before rollover. It costs you a 5% fee but it will always loan you what you need to pay the days costs. Should be about $500k a day early on.

by **stessier** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:47 pm

Rip wrote:
stessier wrote:Impressive. I guess I'm just doing it wrong as my networth is still less than my loan, so there's no way I can borrow more. Ah well - growing at a snail's pace is still growing.

Spend all your money before rollover. It costs you a 5% fee but it will always loan you what you need to pay the days costs. Should be about $500k a day early on.

Sadly, that requires me to be awake at 2am. Since I'm usually in bed by 8pm, this leads enough of a build up that I always end up paying the full amount for my S/M/I. Kind of a bummer.

by **Rip** » Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:58 pm

stessier wrote:
Rip wrote:
stessier wrote:Impressive. I guess I'm just doing it wrong as my networth is still less than my loan, so there's no way I can borrow more. Ah well - growing at a snail's pace is still growing.

Spend all your money before rollover. It costs you a 5% fee but it will always loan you what you need to pay the days costs. Should be about $500k a day early on.

Sadly, that requires me to be awake at 2am. Since I'm usually in bed by 8pm, this leads enough of a build up that I always end up paying the full amount for my S/M/I. Kind of a bummer.

Sounds like you need a night manager.

:wink:

by **LordMortis** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:48 am

Utilities weren't the way to go. Either RJ is going to supplement them or people are only ever going to b2b a serious amount of extras. People selling at 1.3 profit just doesn't make sense to me when overhead is so high. I'm currently over 5 Mil in debt for a company that's worth under 900k. But the good news is that I don't have to babysit. I'll continue to accumulate debt and lose value until my company implodes. It will be interesting to see how long it takes. After that I'll probably check out again. Not that there's anything wrong with the game. I like the format much better now for what it is. I'm just not in a position to coddle a companies growth all day long every day.

by **Matrix** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:56 pm

wasn't able to join this session. The start up i been working on had been picking up speed, and currently eats up all my attention, even my normal business is on the back burner.

by **Kraken** » Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:59 pm

I started a company and played for a few days, then lost interest. There's nothing wrong with the game design -- I enjoy the early bootstrap process more than running an established conglomerate. I guess I just wasn't in the mood for it. It felt like a chore. Maybe I'll restart again later.

by **Fitzy** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:20 am

Ran out of electricity and none on the B2B. This may be the end of my company. I was running on the edge as it was.

by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:30 am

Fitzy wrote:Ran out of electricity and none on the B2B. This may be the end of my company. I was running on the edge as it was.

I was worried about that. I tried to do the utilities game but I was losing about 200k a day while still having a hard time selling my wares and I got out. I assume other electric providers finally did the same thing. (providers who were insisting at selling at .11 a unit or less. Electricity that cost $.05 or more make was going for $.08 and to sell 1,000,000 a day requires a 100,000k per day infrastructure easy)

When I go to buy electric and it's not there I'll probably just retire. Four false starts is just too many.

by **stessier** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:54 am

There's 3M electricity up there now at 0.10.

by **LordMortis** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:59 am

I've checked every few minutes. It must have come and gone almost instantly. And that's the problem. 10 cent electricity wasn't worth selling. Right now the only reason to sell it is out of charity of over production for your own internal use.

by **stessier** » Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:13 am

For those not producing their own Electricity, I would imagine Scott will have the computer throw some up at a substantial markup. I doubt he'll just let the game die.

by **stessier** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:49 am

Hey ND, I posted the job. Do you want the one on Ratjoy as well?

by **noxiousdog** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:30 am

stessier wrote:Hey ND, I posted the job. Do you want the one on Ratjoy as well?

Absolutely not. One is enough.

by **stessier** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:36 am

noxiousdog wrote:
stessier wrote:Hey ND, I posted the job. Do you want the one on Ratjoy as well?

Absolutely not. One is enough.

Fair enough.

Does anyone want a company on Ratjoy? One free factory space (purchased but empty) 2B in cash and a market value of 9B. It is private, so I could either make you manager or I could take it public, drive down the price, and you could buy a controlling share.

Edit: ND, You're in charge of Big T Lumber - enjoy!

by **noxiousdog** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:41 am

stessier wrote:Edit: ND, You're in charge of Big T Lumber - enjoy!

Thanks!

by **Victoria Raverna** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:42 am

Got into top 10 for personal NW at the new server.

by **LordMortis** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:40 pm

How did this ever turn out?

by **GreenGoo** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:44 pm

LordMortis wrote:How did this ever turn out?

I was just talking to some co-workers about business sims/stock market games. Timely.

by **Fitzy** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:21 pm

Died. Or at least it was a couple months ago. Creator disappeared.

by **GreenGoo** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:32 pm

Fitzy wrote:Died. Or at least it was a couple months ago. Creator disappeared.

Ah well. I give him props for getting as far as he did. Who hasn't come up with game ideas and even done some design work but never made it to a prototype, let alone production. The game had its moments.

by **LordMortis** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:33 pm

Fitzy wrote:Died. Or at least it was a couple months ago. Creator disappeared.

Too bad. I liked the premise. The execution went drastically wrong and he never recovered in time (and strong enough) for my interest to hold but I was hopeful that an interesting sim would come out of this.

by **noxiousdog** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:47 pm

It's still going. i play every day.

by **LordMortis** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:51 pm

noxiousdog wrote:It's still going. i play every day.

Do tell.

by **noxiousdog** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:12 pm

LordMortis wrote:
noxiousdog wrote:It's still going. i play every day.

Do tell.

It hasn't changed much. There's no stock market. I get messages from other players every once in a while.

I'm running an auto company as a main, with support behind it (metal company (steel), petrochem (rubber, arti leather), and mining). I just started jewelry, but I'm not sure how well that's going to go. margins aren't as good as I had expected, but it's a useful downstream to pair with my mining operation.

by **GreenGoo** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:40 pm

noxiousdog wrote:It's still going. i play every day.

That is some crazy impressive dedication.

Nice. And congrats to the author for making something that keeps people at it.

by **Fitzy** » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:37 pm

I don't know if it would appeal to anyone, but there is a new stand alone expansion for Capitalism 2. The developers are going to keep developing assuming decent sales. However it does have always on DRM.

I'm surprised the game discussed in this thread is still going. Did the developer ever come back?

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