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Busy day @ work, went upstairs for lunch and my wife was watching the news. She'd been watching it for over an hour, I couldn't take more than 5 minutes... made her turn it off.
Just sick to my stomach.
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I was cringing as I opened The Onion page on this, but they were spot on.Skinypupy wrote:Brilliant.triggercut wrote:http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-e ... rts,30743/
Dude, sometimes you're pretty tonedeaf.Kraken wrote:...
+1 on both counts.Trent Steel wrote:I was cringing as I opened The Onion page on this, but they were spot on.Skinypupy wrote:Brilliant.triggercut wrote:http://www.theonion.com/articles/fuck-e ... rts,30743/
Also, Kraken's apathetic post is... just ick.
Enough wrote: Look for the helpers.
That's so awful. Nobody should lose a 5-year-old in kindergarten.Jag wrote:My cousin lives in Newtown (my dad's family is from CT). Her friend lost her 5 year old today. She also lost her next door neighbor, a teacher in the school.
Last place I would ever expect this.
Suffice it to say that I flunked compassion and should therefore steer clear of emotion-charged topics. I lack that frame of reference completely.triggercut wrote:Dude, sometimes you're pretty tonedeaf.Kraken wrote:...
I understand this most of the time, but how can you possibly not have compassion for 5 year olds?Kraken wrote:Suffice it to say that I flunked compassion and should therefore steer clear of emotion-charged topics. I lack that frame of reference completely.triggercut wrote:Dude, sometimes you're pretty tonedeaf.Kraken wrote:...
I'm guessing he has cognitive compassion but is a bit impaired on affective compassion. I don't mean that pejoratively, it's just how Kraken is wired.msduncan wrote:I understand this most of the time, but how can you possibly not have compassion for 5 year olds?Kraken wrote:Suffice it to say that I flunked compassion and should therefore steer clear of emotion-charged topics. I lack that frame of reference completely.triggercut wrote:Dude, sometimes you're pretty tonedeaf.Kraken wrote:...
Peace all my OO fellas and gals. Carpet, only peek through your fingers, you don't have to take your hand awayEnough wrote: “When I was a boy and I would see scary things in the news, my mother would say to me, “Look for the helpers. You will always find people who are helping.” To this day, especially in times of “disaster,” I remember my mother’s words and I am always comforted by realizing that there are still so many helpers – so many caring people in this world.”
— Fred Rogers (Mr. Rogers)
Look for the helpers.
Lacking an instinctive social response shouldn't prevent you from compensating with cognitive social responses. You can learn the rules even if they don't come naturally to you.Kraken wrote: Suffice it to say that I flunked compassion and should therefore steer clear of emotion-charged topics. I lack that frame of reference completely.
There is a victim that few people will recognize. He just lost his brother to suicide. He just lost his mother to murder. He has to come to terms with the fact that his brother did such a horrible thing. The impatient media named him as the suspect, even linked his Facebook page so that everyone could find him, even attack the pages of anything associated with him. Not only that, people will quite likely shun him for his relative's actions. Everybody else who lost loved ones today will receive love and sympathy. He'll likely just receive hatred.WarPig wrote:Now they are saying the gunman was positively identified as the brother of the guy they previously thought.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... -shooting/
Yep. Reminds me of this story about the Amish school shooting several years ago where the Amish community reached out to comfort the family of the man who killed their children. The families of the killers are victims too.Blackhawk wrote:There is a victim that few people will recognize. He just lost his brother to suicide. He just lost his mother to murder. He has to come to terms with the fact that his brother did such a horrible thing. The impatient media named him as the suspect, even linked his Facebook page so that everyone could find him, even attack the pages of anything associated with him. Not only that, people will quite likely shun him for his relative's actions. Everybody else who lost loved ones today will receive love and sympathy. He'll likely just receive hatred.WarPig wrote:Now they are saying the gunman was positively identified as the brother of the guy they previously thought.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2 ... -shooting/
Yeah, that nails it. I know how I'm supposed to feel, but the whole "feeling" thing is academic. I usually say appropriate things but I misjudged this time. Sorry to anyone who was offended (see what I did there?).Captain Caveman wrote:I'm guessing he has cognitive compassion but is a bit impaired on affective compassion. I don't mean that pejoratively, it's just how Kraken is wired.msduncan wrote:I understand this most of the time, but how can you possibly not have compassion for 5 year olds?Kraken wrote:Suffice it to say that I flunked compassion and should therefore steer clear of emotion-charged topics. I lack that frame of reference completely.triggercut wrote:Dude, sometimes you're pretty tonedeaf.Kraken wrote:...
Wasn't meant to be funny.Blackhawk wrote: Lacking an instinctive social response shouldn't prevent you from compensating with cognitive social responses. You can learn the rules even if they don't come naturally to you.
Here's one: When people are emotionally upset, humor rarely works, and usually has the opposite effect.
The only thing I can of do after this insanity is take inventory of my own life. And I am pretty damn lucky to have the family I that do.Inverarity wrote:A BUNCH OF LITTLE CHILDREN WERE SHOT AND KILLED TODAY, AS PART OF A PLANNED MASS SHOOTING SPREE.
This is all very true and very much a reality. But my question is why we must inundate ourselves with the details, the media seeming to repeat over and over the same details. We know what happen, and I think it is psychologically unhelpful to get swamped by all this. Is it not better to deal with this tragedy within ourselves or among our own family and friends, without the constant bombardment of images and explanations and the hypothetical.Inverarity wrote:Kraken, everyone knows you here. Don't sweat it. A bunch of little kids were shot and killed today, for no motherfucking reason whatsoever.
Let me repeat that.
A BUNCH OF LITTLE CHILDREN WERE SHOT AND KILLED TODAY, AS PART OF A PLANNED MASS SHOOTING SPREE.
There is no explanation for any of this.
There is no proper way to react to this.
I have no good way to end this post. I am at a loss for words. I suspect most of us are. Tomorrow it won't make any more sense, but maybe we'll begin to think about where we go from here.
Stop dissing the Ravens.Alan_Bernardo wrote:...except for sports.
I believe it does America not one damn bit a good to watch the same tragedy unfolding hundreds of times.
I'm from Cleveland. I would think the Browns and Indians have coined the term "woe".Grundbegriff wrote:Stop dissing the Ravens.Alan_Bernardo wrote:...except for sports.
I believe it does America not one damn bit a good to watch the same tragedy unfolding hundreds of times.
Wife just said the same thingOctavious wrote: heard of aside from 9/11. This actually on some (a lot?) of levels bothers me more.
It is, but I don't think it is sad. We are fragile creatures living fragile lives. Tragedy, death and destruction fascinate us because we are all subject to them, yet unable to truly comprehend them. We have the psychological need to understand them, but cannot unless it happening to us (and often not even then.) It is both natural and reasonable for us to be drawn to such things in an attempt (even if it is subconscious) to understand ourselves and our own existence.Odin wrote: Sadly, I think it's human nature to watch tragedies like this with rapt attention.
I feel like it bothers me more but I am ten years past 9/11 so I am unsure if my emotions have just faded.Octavious wrote:Someone shot 20 kids, young kids in a freaking school. It doesn't matter where it was everyone would still be covering it all over the place. I mean really... This is probably the worst thing I've ever heard of aside from 9/11. This actually on some (a lot?) of levels bothers me more.