FUCK THEM
A quote that one of them sent out via twitter:
Shirley Phelps-Roper @DearShirley 14h
Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.
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Shirley Phelps-Roper @DearShirley 14h
Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.
Normally I ignore them, but I can only imagine how the parents and family of these kids will feel when they have to ride past all of their hurtful signs on the way to bury their babies.silverjon wrote:Of course they are.
And that's how they want you to react.
Television (media) thinks everyone is an idiot. I mean, you'd be surprised at how many people think that what they see on television is actually true and not simply a staged event (outside of factual news). I've asked many people if they thought these so-called reality shows were true, and almost everyone thought that they were. I think I was 16 when I quit watching television and the news. I typically get my news from the radio and print media.Blackhawk wrote:It is, but I don't think it is sad. We are fragile creatures living fragile lives. Tragedy, death and destruction fascinate us because we are all subject to them, yet unable to truly comprehend them. We have the psychological need to understand them, but cannot unless it happening to us (and often not even then.) It is both natural and reasonable for us to be drawn to such things in an attempt (even if it is subconscious) to understand ourselves and our own existence.Odin wrote: Sadly, I think it's human nature to watch tragedies like this with rapt attention.
Now, the media using that natural need to sell sensationalism is sad.
msduncan wrote:Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket at the funerals of the victims:
FUCK THEM
A quote that one of them sent out via twitter:
Shirley Phelps-Roper @DearShirley 14h
Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.
Not sure. There has been a ton of conflicting info in this one. I saw a story yesterday and specifically said he only took hand guns into the school with him and left the high powered rifle in the car. Then today I read a story that says all of the shootings were done with a high powered rifle.Pyperkub wrote:I've seen stories that say the killer was wearing "a military vest". Does anyone know what that means? An early report said it was bulletproof, but I haven't seen anything to that effect since. My guess is that it was not a protective vest but more military utilitarian. Is that about right?
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AwesomePyperkub wrote:msduncan wrote:Westboro Baptist Church is planning to picket at the funerals of the victims:
FUCK THEM
A quote that one of them sent out via twitter:
Shirley Phelps-Roper @DearShirley 14h
Westboro will picket Sandy Hook Elementary School to sing praise to God for the glory of his work in executing his judgment.
Apparently Anonymous has doxxed Westboro Baptist and published their personal information (so people can picket them?)...
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There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
This makes me happy. They deserve what's coming to them.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
More importantly, here's the link to the petition.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
Is that the same petition? Because it only seems to have about 14k signatures, rather than 55k.Jag wrote:More importantly, here's the link to the petition.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
Not sure. It was the one linked in that article.Odin wrote:Is that the same petition? Because it only seems to have about 14k signatures, rather than 55k.Jag wrote:More importantly, here's the link to the petition.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
Martyrdom requires followers. All of Westboro's followers are in Westboro.rshetts2 wrote:Ive heard people say bringing down Westboro will just make them martyrs, well so be it. Lets make them martyrs.
They will be considered martyrs by other hate groups and extremists. And as Jean Luc Picard says, Make it so!Blackhawk wrote:Martyrdom requires followers. All of Westboro's followers are in Westboro.rshetts2 wrote:Ive heard people say bringing down Westboro will just make them martyrs, well so be it. Lets make them martyrs.
Will have to double check. I saw one linked that had 55k, but it may have been from another article. Note that I only believe that they should be publicly held accountable for their hate speech with more speech as a result of this doxxing, as Fed would say.Odin wrote:Is that the same petition? Because it only seems to have about 14k signatures, rather than 55k.Jag wrote:More importantly, here's the link to the petition.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
If thats in reference to my comments regarding martyrdom, please understand I am not advocating vigilante justice. I am referring to ending the Westboro Baptist Church group, as a functioning organization. Removing their tax exempt status would certainly send a message. The martyrdom I am seeking is not directed towards individuals but towards an organization that continues to appall the majority of US citizens aware of their activities.Odin wrote:We shouldn't murder the WBC idiots for the idiotic, selfish, money-grubbing things they say because it's wrong. It's not how we operate in the US. We're civilized people, not a pack of vigilante assassins. If every cause they picketed raised tons of money for whomever they were picketing, that would be much sweeter and more just.
None of which isn't to say that I wouldn't probably, briefly, enjoy the opportunity to plug one of them in the head with a large-caliber projectile, but I'd feel awful about it afterwards and I'd know it was wrong.
This one has 70,000+ signatures.Pyperkub wrote:Will have to double check. I saw one linked that had 55k, but it may have been from another article. Note that I only believe that they should be publicly held accountable for their hate speech with more speech as a result of this doxxing, as Fed would say.Odin wrote:Is that the same petition? Because it only seems to have about 14k signatures, rather than 55k.Jag wrote:More importantly, here's the link to the petition.Pyperkub wrote:Here's the link:
There are also 55k signatures on the White house petition so far to recognize Westboro Baptist as a Hate Group (which would kill their tax-exempt status, at least...).Hacktivist group Anonymous published the personal information of members of the Westboro Baptist Church after the group announced on Saturday it would picket Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut where 26 children and adults were killed.
Anonymous published private email addresses, phone numbers and home addresses of various members, and teased the group about the hack on Twitter. Anonymous also posted a video condemning the group for "breeding hatred" and adding, "We will destroy you. We are coming.”
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Yeah. Me too.Friday and Saturday and Sunday, like Americans from one end to the other, I sat in front of the television and watched the unimaginable scene in Newtown, Connecticut. I spent the weekend on the brink of tears. I spent the weekend looking for that same thing I needed to find in Tucson. And when a woman who had lived in the town and worked at the school for years talked about Victoria Soto, the teacher who it is being reported tried to hide her students and literally died tried to shield them, I finally broke down. But it was not what I needed.
"Daddy," the 7-year-old, Katie, says as she barges into the room. "My stomach hurts."
"Mine too, sweetheart," I say, and I kiss her on the forehead and hug her too tight. And I can't think of anything else to say.
Yeah that's the sad thing. The school had decent security protocols in place. Not a fortress mind you but much better than any school I have ever gone to has had.Sabassis wrote:I saw on 60 minutes that the school was locked. The shooter actually shot out a window and made entrance into the school. If someone is truly crazy, there is no way to stop them.
I do wonder how people would react to them being martyred for their... "cause?". Would there be the typical positive response or would most everyone just secretly be happy about it and publically admit that they had it coming?rshetts2 wrote:If thats in reference to my comments regarding martyrdom, please understand I am not advocating vigilante justice. I am referring to ending the Westboro Baptist Church group, as a functioning organization. Removing their tax exempt status would certainly send a message. The martyrdom I am seeking is not directed towards individuals but towards an organization that continues to appall the majority of US citizens aware of their activities.
Same with my 12 year old. He pretty much absorbed it all from the various floating news sources that our wired world pumps out daily by the time we watched Obama last night.Odin wrote:My kids are aware of it. The two older kids were around while I was watching the news on Friday. They're fairly mature and rational for their ages (except when they're being immature and irrational, but that's part of being a kid) and they didn't seem particularly disturbed by it, other than the typical "that's horrible. Those poor people" reaction you'd expect from people of any age.