noxiousdog wrote:One of the Houston Dynamo players wears a padded helmet for protective purposes.
Won't somebody think of the children?
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I thought once again, I'd resurrect this thread where I got derided and even mocked about concerns about soccer and concussions. It seems that there are issues:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/285 ... m=referral
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Re: Won't somebody think of the children?
I refereed world championships for Junior Rollerderby this summer (JRDA). One mandatory part of our training is CDC Heads Up training. We have to watch for signs for concussion and any hard hits to the head or falls require clearance from an EMT. These kids wear very protective helmets and still they occasionally will get concussions.Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:11 pm I thought once again, I'd resurrect this thread where I got derided and even mocked about concerns about soccer and concussions. It seems that there are issues:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/285 ... m=referral
Hits to the head are important to consider but hard falls/tripping can be very impactful as well. I had a colleague who fell at a tournament onto his tailbone and had a massive concussion that took the better part of a year to "recover" from.
Anyway, there is no completely safe activity and I think we are at least just starting to get to a point where we are narrowing down what activities bring the most risk. That is probably the only way to work this but it is going to be controversial for a long time.
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I don't think concerns were the issue. It was the idea of wearing helmets to eliminate issues. Helmets won't do anything to protect against repetitive impact damage. The brain hits the inside of the skull and a helmet doesn't prevent that. Not for something like headers. Other head injuries are rare enough that helmets would be overkill and may actually encourage more reckless play.Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 10, 2019 5:11 pm I thought once again, I'd resurrect this thread where I got derided and even mocked about concerns about soccer and concussions. It seems that there are issues:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/285 ... m=referral
So what to do? Some or all of these maybe?
Ban headers (completely or before a certain age/level)
Issue penalties for reckless play/rules changes
Pad goalposts
Don't play
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That was our choice too, but nothing to do with headers. More to do with awful Texas weather.
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In my son's case, he must have been channeling my own thoughts when I asked if he wanted to join again, he replied, "no daddy, soccer is super boring." Honestly, I never made such a suggestion out loud to him!coopasonic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:15 pmThat was our choice too, but nothing to do with headers. More to do with awful Texas weather.
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