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Also, it's not perfect, but here's the latest version of DF with the last mayday graphics mod added in if anyone would like it:
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New stuffBug fixes
- World activation! There are a few things that aren't active, like megabeast invasions, but lots of world gen actions made it into the game. Birth, death (to the extent it wasn't handled before), marriages, site foundation as well as reclaims, basic succession and appointments/etc., invasions, as well as some more detail beyond world gen, like patrols, banditry and animal population handling. We still don't have army battles -- the invasions are all successful right now, unless they are locally interfered with by you.
- The game advances two weeks before each play -- the calendar there still moves slowly when there's a lot of action, as there is in larger worlds, but there are quite a few things I can do soon to speed that up. Due to the speed of the calendar, new forts in particular also get just two weeks. This'll probably cause some shenanigans with the caravan (or you'll just have to wait a year in an autumn fort for your first one) until we sort it out.
- Fortresses can be retired and unretired. Losing is still fun but if it doesn't happen when you want, you can put it off for a while. Retired forts can be conquered (much more easily than they would be if you still controlled them), so don't be surprised if you have to reclaim instead of being able to unretire sometimes. You can reclaim forts that didn't make it through world generation.
- Site maps for dwarves, elves and goblins. These are very basic, but they are there, anyway.
- Multi-tile trees and lots of new plants. Fruit and flowers. Leaves that fall in little clouds. I had to put off dwarf mode tree harvesting, but we should get to that before long.
- Megabeasts/forgotten beasts can attack, destroy and then reside within world gen sites like dwarf fortresses.
- Various movement changes. Climbing/jumping/sprinting in both modes, though invaders still require a line of site to use them. Adventure mode has a stealth rewrite, and some elements of that are present in dwarf mode (it is generally easier to spot thieves and ambushers, and I'll probably need to make them smarter about finding cover). Movement and combat are separate now. Startled people climb up the walls of their homes a little too often.
- Tracking information in adventure mode. You can pull up a little window and see tracks (capital K), and you can also have it describe the freshest track that isn't yours to more easily stay on a trail (alt K). Tracks are also part of the regular look command.
- Different levels of conflict -- your opponents in adventure mode will be listed with the current status (non-lethal, lethal, no quarter, etc.).
- Combat moves take place over a period of time now, and you can do things like catching an opponent's attack -- you have to do that by targeting a grab at the offending part now (reactions used to have a menu, but that was before combat got more smeared out). You can get information about what attacks your opponent is doing in the attack menu -- the quality of the information depends on your situational awareness skill. You can add adjective modifiers to your attacks (quick/heavy/etc.) and you can perform more than one attack at a time for a significant penalty to its force. It might make sense with two adamantine swords or something, twirling them about.
- Rumors of incidents can be spread, and the rumors need to be spread before you gain reputation (good or bad). Killing all of the witnesses to an event will effectively remove it from play if you don't let them get off the screen. People are a little psychic as it regards ongoing conflicts, so that they can make decisions non-stupidly. Your liaison can share rumors with your fort, but I still need to set up the screen for reviewing them after you've seen them the first time... not that you can do much with the information.
- You can travel through tunnels.
- You can get a guide to travel with you to a faraway place -- it still ended up being too cumbersome, so locals continue to be able to tell you the location of sites, but only within a certain distance of their home town.
- In general, conversations have been redone. They no longer have their own screen, but run along with other actions, and there are many more options.
- The mind has been rewritten quite a bit -- people now experience emotions according to different circumstances (lots of awkward monologues there), and they consider actions differently. The main outstanding issue is that I didn't get around to converting existing dwarf mode thoughts, so they sort of exist concurrently with the new emotions and that needs to be changed. I'll get to that before job priorities (which was one of the main shorter-term reasons for the rewrite). Some dwarves have life-long dreams and it is possible for them to recognize that they've accomplished the ones relating to skills and family. They cannot yet realize their dreams of taking over the world.
- The paragraph at the beginning of adventure mode was marginally more useful, but that slipped a bit at the end as things were tweaked. I think it'll still describe certain invasions and abductions, but it needs to be redone.
- Lots of new arena options -- not just the conflict state, but you can set the temperature etc. to all sorts of extremes.
- Some experiments with procedural items, though the new demon-type sites are still quite un-fun now. The knowledge on the slab at the bottom can be used, but it is probably not worth the trouble.
The stuff I forgot
I'm sure several old bugs were "fixed" as large portions of the code was rewritten/removed, but I haven't tried to track exactly which ones. Bug fixes will commence in earnest now, and everything will be handled over at the bug tracker.
Just be wary, the Lazy Newb Pack/Starter Pack is still not fully compatible with the new version. I'm sticking with the old version until some of the kinks are worked out and until Dwarf Therapist works properly!Holman wrote:Strike the Earth!
I was just starting to think about Dwarf Fortress again, and here it is.
EzeKieL wrote:Ah well, a man can dream that one day a game will be able to combine both perfectly.
Yeah, I heard about stonesense, but last time I checked it just showed you a status of your fortress. You didn't seem to be able to play it real time, or maybe I just did it wrong?Zurai wrote:EzeKieL wrote:Ah well, a man can dream that one day a game will be able to combine both perfectly.
The good news: That isn't a mockup, that's actually Stonesense graphics in Dwarf Fortress proper (the weird text in the main view is someone not configuring it right).
The bad news: It only works on the old version. It will probably take months to get working in the new version.
Does that mean no Dwarf Therapist? Once you play with Dwarf Therapist, you can never go back, even more than you can never go back after you've played with decent tile set.Zurai wrote:Like I said, that's Stonesense being used as the graphics engine for DF. As in it's displayed in the DF window in real-time.
It's a very recent development, part of the DFHack toolset, which again only works for the old version.
Give them a few weeks, they tend to update pretty well. The LNP is what you want to watch, as the guy who puts that together tends to be pretty on the ball.LordMortis wrote:Does that mean no Dwarf Therapist? Once you play with Dwarf Therapist, you can never go back, even more than you can never go back after you've played with decent tile set.Zurai wrote:Like I said, that's Stonesense being used as the graphics engine for DF. As in it's displayed in the DF window in real-time.
It's a very recent development, part of the DFHack toolset, which again only works for the old version.
One time that was described as Dwarf The-rapist and now I can never call it anything else.LordMortis wrote: Does that mean no Dwarf Therapist? Once you play with Dwarf Therapist, you can never go back, even more than you can never go back after you've played with decent tile set.
Your name is Neo isn't it, and you can read the Matrix?!Holman wrote:I don't recommend it to anyone else, but I've been playing DF with the default graphics from the beginning. I've never used Therapist or other tools. Somehow I just stuck with it until the awkward, clunky interface clicked for me, and now I can just sort of see through it.
A prayer answered.baelthazar wrote:Your name is Neo isn't it, and you can read the Matrix?!Holman wrote:I don't recommend it to anyone else, but I've been playing DF with the default graphics from the beginning. I've never used Therapist or other tools. Somehow I just stuck with it until the awkward, clunky interface clicked for me, and now I can just sort of see through it.
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I used to disdain graphics packs, but got hooked on Mayday after a few months of playing. I never used the tools until late in the game, when my time available to play dwindled to a much lower level.
I've heard of a new mod coming out though. It is a mix between Dwarf Therapist and Dwarf Analyst. I think they are calling it Dwarf Analrapist...![]()
+2Lorini wrote:I'm 1000% behind you, I'd do the same thing.
My kids have already "consumed" more video game content than I've seen in my life time. Sure, most of it was watching other people play it, but they still recognize it and understand where it came from, most of the time.hitbyambulance wrote:+2Lorini wrote:I'm 1000% behind you, I'd do the same thing.
maybe you just need to restart his gameducation with arcade coin-ops - ones with no ending and inevitable failure
The previous version's Lazy Newbie Pack makes things a lot better. It'll take time for the pack to catch up with the newest version though.Holman wrote:The biggest barrier to entry is the opacity of the interface. DF is surely the most intricate in-game world ever created, but telling the game what to do feels like 1977.