Why would you let a midget with dry scalp get in the way of your sex life?Brian wrote:Oh no, we were both ready to go the first night.
However, there was an issue that needed sorting out before we could do so.
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Subway Jared in trouble?
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He won. Period.
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I would think that might have something to do with being an overweight social outcast one moment then a couple years later being the cool kid everyone wants to talk to.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks. Talking to a reporter, he just casually mentions how hot young schoolgirls are; discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
He has to be something of a sociapath in addition to a pedophile, for christ's sake.
I feel a little sad for him really. This is probably all a product of the emotional damage he took from being a fat social reject and the secret fantasies he couldn't fulfill. Suddenly he could fulfill them but it was no longer socially acceptable. His mind was still stuck on the girls he couldn't get at puberty.
Hope he gets some help himself.
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If you read one of the articles linked from this one, he was banging the franchisee lady.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks... discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
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So he liked the Cougars and the Cubs?The Meal wrote:If you read one of the articles linked from this one, he was banging the franchisee lady.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks... discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
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I thought that was another franchise worker. In any case, still not something I'd consider pillow talk...unless the pillow talk turned that dark, that is. In which case, I have to wonder what she brought to the table to make Jared think it was okay to mention he was a pedophile.The Meal wrote:If you read one of the articles linked from this one, he was banging the franchisee lady.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks... discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
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It certainly seems that he didn't have much understanding that what he felt about young girls was wrong, and that acting on it was illegal (even in Thailand). I'm not sure that makes him a sociopath (maybe he was) but it does make him strangely unaware of how society feels about the whole thing.hepcat wrote:He has to be something of a sociapath in addition to a pedophile, for christ's sake.
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I can't see how you can be an independent adult with TV and Internet and unaware that your attraction is taboo to the point of inciting violence among most of the population/unaware of legal problemsGreenGoo wrote:It certainly seems that he didn't have much understanding that what he felt about young girls was wrong, and that acting on it was illegal (even in Thailand). I'm not sure that makes him a sociopath (maybe he was) but it does make him strangely unaware of how society feels about the whole thing.
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Beats me. Maybe hepcat is right and he's a sociopath.LordMortis wrote:I can't see how you can be an independent adult with TV and Internet and unaware that your attraction is taboo to the point of inciting violence among most of the population/unaware of legal problemsGreenGoo wrote:It certainly seems that he didn't have much understanding that what he felt about young girls was wrong, and that acting on it was illegal (even in Thailand). I'm not sure that makes him a sociopath (maybe he was) but it does make him strangely unaware of how society feels about the whole thing.
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So he was gettin free sammiches?The Meal wrote:If you read one of the articles linked from this one, he was banging the franchisee lady.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks... discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
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Yeah but he asked the franchisee lady to set him up with her underage cousin. At what point in an affair does something like that become fair game?The Meal wrote:If you read one of the articles linked from this one, he was banging the franchisee lady.hepcat wrote:I find it odd that the topic of having sex with children was something Jared seemed comfortable with just casually mentioning to some folks... discussing the future of the footlong with a branch manager at Subway, he just casually mentions he was in Thailand having sex with children recently.
And apparently she went to the Subway executives with this info so it's possible that Subway is tainted after all.
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Perhaps he was delusional and thought he was as big enough star to get buy with sleeping with barely teenage girls.
Like Jimmy Page.
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Or Ted Nugent.
But at least Ol' Uncle Ted had the respect to buy that girl from her parents...
But at least Ol' Uncle Ted had the respect to buy that girl from her parents...
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You think?Rip wrote:Perhaps he was delusional
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Paying out with a quickness:
Former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle has paid a total of $1.1 million to 11 of his 14 victims in advance of his sentencing next month on federal charges of child pornography and having sex with minors.
The 11 victims each received $100,000, and the three remaining victims are each due to get the same amount. In total, Fogle is expected to pay $1.4 million before his November 19th court date, at which he has agreed to plead guilty to charges against him, Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven DeBrota tells PEOPLE.
Fogle's 14 victims ranged in age from 10 to 17 when the crimes occurred, and four are now adults, DeBrota says.
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People who pay restitution early in the process may be trying to show an acceptance of responsibility for their actions, says Brandon Garrett, a law professor at the University of Virginia School of Law. "The hope, I think, is to obtain leniency in sentencing," he tells PEOPLE.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Prosecutors seek 12 years
Federal prosecutors asked a judge to sentence former Subway spokesman Jared Fogle to 12 years and seven months in prison next week because it would send a strong message to others who exploit children.
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In a sentencing memorandum filed Thursday, prosecutors also asked Judge Tanya Walton Pratt to put Fogle on supervised probation for the rest of his life and order him to register as a sex offender in any state where he lives or works.
As part of the plea deal, Fogle agreed not to seek a term of less than five years in his own sentencing memorandum.
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According to the memorandum, Fogle committed some criminal acts of his own, but his biggest role was as a co-conspirator with Russell Taylor, former executive director of Fogle’s Jared Foundation charity.
Prosecutors said about 5.6 terabytes of pornographic videos and images of children as young as age 9 — some of them depicting explicit sexual conduct — were secretly produced using multiple hidden cameras set up in Taylor’s residences from March 2011 and April 2015. That’s the equivalent of 56 100-gigabyte hard drives.
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But what's a gigabyte?That’s the equivalent of 56 100-gigabyte hard drives.
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Jeebus, this has grown beyond anything I imagined it would. He really is an awful, evil human being that needs to be put away for as long as possible, if the growing amounts of evidence is to be believed.
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Taylor is going to try for the plead-guilty-leniency thing.
Taylor faces 15 to 35 years in prison and a $250,000 fine after admitting to 13 counts of sexual exploitation of a child and distribution and receipt of child pornography and a related conspiracy charge, according to the U.S. Attorney's office in Indianapolis. Taylor also must pay restitution, but the amount has not been determined.
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In addition to prison time, Taylor faces supervised release for the rest of his life, cannot possess any pornography, must get sexual disorders treatment, cannot have unsupervised contact with minors and must register as a sex offender, according to the terms of the plea agreement.
[Taylor's attorney, Brad] Banks said that if Taylor, who is now in federal custody in Kentucky, had been convicted in court instead of voluntarily pleading guilty, "he most certainly would have faced life in prison."
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Fogle this week sued Taylor and his wife, Angela Taylor, in a loan repayment dispute. Fogle claimed he is still owed most of the $191,000 he loaned Taylor to buy an Indianapolis house. That home is where Taylor made some of the child porn, according to prosecutors.
Banks tells PEOPLE that Taylor has transferred ownership of the property to his wife, Angela Taylor, who also is named in the suit.
"My client does not believe he was limited in transferring the property to his wife," Banks tells PEOPLE. "My understanding is she is the current property owner … he no longer has ownership interest in it."
Taylor and Fogle are no longer friends, Banks said.
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HAH! Ya think?Taylor and Fogle are no longer friends, Banks said.
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I swear, the stories on this one have some gem lines. Between the hard drive lines and the no longer friends, this topic is a gold mine of odd statements.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Is the wife getting looked at for anything? She lived in (and now owns) a house that was basically child porn studio/terror dungeon.
BTW, how isn't the house being seized? I guess because it isn't a drug offense?
BTW, how isn't the house being seized? I guess because it isn't a drug offense?
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They have to wait for the civil lawsuits by the victims. Jared is going to be in a long line of other creditors, and should have asked for security lien on the title.
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Double jeopardy.
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That seems to be about a hundred years too short, IMHO.Fogle has been sentenced to 15 years and eight months in prison, the AP reports
Maybe next year, maybe no go
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I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
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If that's the entire sentence, how long until he walks out on parole?GreenGoo wrote:I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
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Damn, that's harsh.Fogle cried during his statement before sentencing, saying his wife and children would never get over this.
"You gave your wife $7 million, she'll be okay," Pratt responded.
One thing I don't get, the 'keep away from porn' command. ALL porn? That's bit unrealistic. Why order him to do something you can't enforce? If anything, access to porn may be enough for him, to keep him out of trouble. I'm talking legal porn of course. If it was up to me I'd say he's welcome to all the legal porn he wants but if he's caught with even one illegal porn file(I know porn when I see it) then it's an immediate life in prison sentence. Then it's up to him if he wants to chance it. This assumes he survives prison and eventually comes out.
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15 years, 8 months federal is 15 years, 8 months.Jeff V wrote:If that's the entire sentence, how long until he walks out on parole?GreenGoo wrote:I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
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Considering how popular pedophiles are in prison, I doubt he'll live out the first year, let alone his term.Jeff V wrote:If that's the entire sentence, how long until he walks out on parole?GreenGoo wrote:I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
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It can also drive the desire for more for someone with problems.gameoverman wrote:Damn, that's harsh.Fogle cried during his statement before sentencing, saying his wife and children would never get over this.
"You gave your wife $7 million, she'll be okay," Pratt responded.
One thing I don't get, the 'keep away from porn' command. ALL porn? That's bit unrealistic. Why order him to do something you can't enforce? If anything, access to porn may be enough for him, to keep him out of trouble. I'm talking legal porn of course. If it was up to me I'd say he's welcome to all the legal porn he wants but if he's caught with even one illegal porn file(I know porn when I see it) then it's an immediate life in prison sentence. Then it's up to him if he wants to chance it. This assumes he survives prison and eventually comes out.
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He'll also be a sex offender who has to register for the rest of his life, I think.Cortilian wrote:15 years, 8 months federal is 15 years, 8 months.Jeff V wrote:If that's the entire sentence, how long until he walks out on parole?GreenGoo wrote:I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
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OK, you made me look it up and the feds claim otherwise.Cortilian wrote:15 years, 8 months federal is 15 years, 8 months.Jeff V wrote:If that's the entire sentence, how long until he walks out on parole?GreenGoo wrote:I managed to avoid most of the details. What I did read, I think 15 years was about right, and a helluva lot more than any celebrity or politically connected person could expect to receive.
There could be more, but honestly, I'll just stick my head in the sand on this one.
So he can walk about the time my wife's new car is paid off.Federal Department of Justice wrote:How does the Commission determine if someone is eligible for Parole?
The process begins at sentencing. Unless the court has specified a minimum time for the offender to serve, or has imposed an "indeterminate" type of sentence, parole eligibility occurs upon completion of one-third of the term. If an offender is serving a life sentence or a term or terms of 30 years or more he or she will become eligible for parole after 10 years.
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Nah, he'll be a target, but that will be taken into account by the prison. If every pedophile that walked into a prison was murdered the way some people think, it would be the top story on every news site. It is a possibility, but not likely. On the other hand, the next few years are going to be a living hell for him. Imagine being bullied. Now imagine being locked in a room with 100+ bullies. He won't have a friend. He won't have a possession that won't get lost or mysteriously break. He won't spend a night in a bed that doesn't smell like someone else's piss. He'll 'trip and fall' and somehow find a doorknob to walk into on a fairly regular basis. He'll discover the legend that is the Lock-in-a-Sock. I'd also be surprised if he goes very long before he gets to play Little Girl himself.tgb wrote: Considering how popular pedophiles are in prison, I doubt he'll live out the first year, let alone his term.
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And all that assumes they don't just dump him into protective custody as a high-profile target.
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What if they put him in a country club prison like they typically do for wealthy criminals?Blackhawk wrote:And all that assumes they don't just dump him into protective custody as a high-profile target.
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That's more for white-collar crimes, tax evasion and the like. I doubt this would apply.Jeff V wrote:What if they put him in a country club prison like they typically do for wealthy criminals?Blackhawk wrote:And all that assumes they don't just dump him into protective custody as a high-profile target.
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Yeah, those prisons are more about what you did rather than how much you're worth. Money and celebrity applies on the front end, if at all, in avoiding prosecution or reducing sentences.tgb wrote:That's more for white-collar crimes, tax evasion and the like. I doubt this would apply.Jeff V wrote:What if they put him in a country club prison like they typically do for wealthy criminals?Blackhawk wrote:And all that assumes they don't just dump him into protective custody as a high-profile target.
Exceptions are if you can prove some kind of medical/mental condition that gets you into a treatment center. Money helps there.
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I think if anything he'd be more of a target because he's famous rather than for being a pedo. Some guy who wants to make a name for himself will be tempted to use Jared for that.
So he's probably going to be in with the snitches, molesters, and other segregated inmates. I don't think he'll be in one of those '23 hours a day in your cell' sections, but he's not going to be in general pop either.
So he's probably going to be in with the snitches, molesters, and other segregated inmates. I don't think he'll be in one of those '23 hours a day in your cell' sections, but he's not going to be in general pop either.
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Will he be going to a "federal, pound me in the ass" prison?