Give it up Dude.Scoop20906 wrote:This is exactly what I warned against. Lying!!!!
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Give it up Dude.Scoop20906 wrote:This is exactly what I warned against. Lying!!!!
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He has been lying this whole game. He is fascist!stessier wrote:Just marveling at the math....if Vorret has been telling the truth, the chances of F F F are remarkably low.
Additionally I can't be Hitler, as that would have been a winHolman wrote:Chaosraven, we can use veto to skip this policy. We both have to agree, and of course I agree to it right now.Veto Power
If five Fascist Policies are enacted, then the Chancellor gains a veto over the pair of policies provided secretly by the President: rather than have to enact one of them, the Chancellor may-- only with the President's concurrence-- reject them both and do nothing. If this happens, the game proceeds as normal but the count of failed elections increases by 1.
I drew F-F-F. (Grund tells me that a reshuffle occurred in the midst of the draw because we got down to 2 cards.) I had no choice but to pass F-F to CR, but the veto cancels it.
Incidentally, if CR and I agree to the veto, that's new information: everyone now has 100% confirmation that we are good (and bb2112 and El G are bad); if either of us were bad, he would decline the veto.
If he were, he wouldn't agree to the Veto and the Fascists would win. So no, he's not.Scoop20906 wrote:He has been lying this whole game. He is fascist!stessier wrote:Just marveling at the math....if Vorret has been telling the truth, the chances of F F F are remarkably low.
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Oh, you mean Vorret. Certainly possible.stessier wrote:If he were, he wouldn't agree to the Veto and the Fascists would win. So no, he's not.Scoop20906 wrote:He has been lying this whole game. He is fascist!stessier wrote:Just marveling at the math....if Vorret has been telling the truth, the chances of F F F are remarkably low.
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This is extremely non-kosher. We do not discuss private communications from the moderator.Holman wrote:(Grund tells me that a reshuffle occurred in the midst of the draw because we got down to 2 cards.)
That doesn't follow, does it?Incidentally, if CR and I agree to the veto, that's new information: everyone now has 100% confirmation that we are good (and bb2112 and El G are bad); if either of us were bad, he would decline the veto.
Grundbegriff wrote:Rules (assuming more than 5 players)
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At no time should the actual PMs from or to the moderator be disclosed in the game thread; however, players may mislead others about the contents of those communications.
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I'm not objecting to knowledge of the reshuffle--obviously, since I confirmed it.Holman wrote:Grund, I am sorry.
But I assumed that a card shuffle was public info since (a) anyone bothering to count the deck would know it was coming, and (b) in a tabletop game it would of course be completely visible. It just didn't seem like something that could possibly be private info.
We can't assume it, but we're down to our last strike so I'm assuming it.Holman wrote:Man, I've got the worst luck with draws. I have drawn F-F-F *twice* in this game. Has anyone else?
Moving forward, the voting is certainly interesting...
[Proven Fascist] bb2112 ABSENT
[Proven Liberal] Chaosraven YES
[Proven Fascist] El Guapo NO
[Proven Liberal] Holman YES
Molière YES
Remus West YES
Scoop20906 NO
stessier YES
Vorret NO
Now it's certainly possible that a Fascist might have voted YES there, just in case the game weren't actually ending. We can't assume that Scoop and Vorret are the remaining bads here.
However... Vorret, if you turn out to be a baddie after all of this, I salute your play. I was ready to trust you.
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Code: Select all
1. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & El Guapo
2. LIBERAL POLICY, bb2112 & Holman
3. FASCIST POLICY, Chaosraven & El Guapo
4. rejected slate, El Guapo & Holman
5. FASCIST POLICY, Holman & Vorret
6. FASCIST POLICY, Moliere & Scoop20906
7. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & Holman
8. rejected slate, Remus West & Chaosraven
9. rejected slate, Scoop20906 & Chaosraven
10a. rejected slate, stessier & El Guapo
10b. FASCIST POLICY autoenacted.
11. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & Holman
12. rejected slate, bb2112 & Moliere
13. rejected slate, Chaosraven & Remus West
14a. rejected slate, El Guapo & Moliere
14b. FASCIST POLICY autoenacted.
15. VETO, Holman & Chaosraven
I exploit a loophole one time....Chaosraven wrote:Yeah, using the actual term "Villager" versus whatever the flavor of the game was. We ended up having to post the "You are a Human/Normal/Villager" in the text of the game.
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Really??? Veto doesn't disqualify members of the Administration??Grundbegriff wrote:Action on Moliere: Please nominate as chancellor anyone you wish. Everyone is eligible because of the auto-enactment.
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You can say whatever you want about what you were handed, though you must remain silent until after your action (whatever it may be).Chaosraven wrote:So I should have said VETO, rather than what I was handed?
A veto counts as a failed election. Disqualification applies to the last members of a government that enacted legislation. Auto-enactment resets all disqualifications. So we're coasting in a state where nobody is disqualified.stessier wrote:Really??? Veto doesn't disqualify members of the Administration??Grundbegriff wrote:Action on Moliere: Please nominate as chancellor anyone you wish. Everyone is eligible because of the auto-enactment.
uh?Chaosraven wrote:15. VETO, Vorret & Chaosraven
Scroll down in the "code" area. It's there.Chaosraven wrote:15. VETO, Vorret & Chaosraven
uh?Chaosraven wrote:15. VETO, Vorret & Chaosraven
Ja.Grundbegriff wrote:You can say whatever you want about what you were handed, though you must remain silent until after your action (whatever it may be).Chaosraven wrote:So I should have said VETO, rather than what I was handed?
The Rules say that you're supposed to say, "I wish to veto this agenda", but I don't see a reason to insist on that language. I prefer
VETO?
to which the president may respose
VETO!
or
NO!
Because it seems more... German.
???????????????????Chaosraven wrote:15. VETO, Vorret & Chaosraven
Not with a whimper, but a blotHolman wrote:Democracy always ends in paperwork.
Exactly. We adopted the practice of pre-writing all the mod messages and then posting them into the thread in advance, so that everyone could see their language and nobody could claim special awareness of it.Chaosraven wrote:Yeah, using the actual term "Villager" versus whatever the flavor of the game was. We ended up having to post the "You are a Human/Normal/Villager" in the text of the game.
Well okay then. Do we like Moliere or Remus? One or the other has to have an Administration. And they should nominate Chaos or Holman.Grundbegriff wrote:A veto counts as a failed election. Disqualification applies to the last members of a government that enacted legislation. Auto-enactment resets all disqualifications. So we're coasting in a state where nobody is disqualified.stessier wrote:Really??? Veto doesn't disqualify members of the Administration??Grundbegriff wrote:Action on Moliere: Please nominate as chancellor anyone you wish. Everyone is eligible because of the auto-enactment.
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Yes, that's better.Chaosraven wrote: Ja!