Viva Le Pen
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Re: Viva Le Pen
Whoopsie. Not even close, thank goodness.Rip wrote:Might as well have a thread for the next big win.
The Austrians, Dutch, and French have all now rejected the far-right candidate in their elections. Perhaps Trump was a wake up call to these nations, though the fact that these candidates are legit contenders means that we can't assume the tide has completely turned. Still, a 30 point trouncing today is a nice relief.
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Re: Viva Le Pen
A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.
I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.
I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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The mainstream right-leaning party in France had enough sense to reject Le Pen. Here, the GOP embraced Trump and adopted Trumpism as the platform of the Republican Party. I don't know how they retreat from that now, at least until it starts costing them elections. We'll see if that happens.Holman wrote:A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.
I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.
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No evangellically motivated tribal hate towards moderates does help.Captain Caveman wrote:The mainstream right-leaning party in France had enough sense to reject Le Pen. Here, the GOP embraced Trump and adopted Trumpism as the platform of the Republican Party. I don't know how they retreat from that now, at least until it starts costing them elections. We'll see if that happens.Holman wrote:A divided France with serious concerns nevertheless stood and resisted the siren call of fear, hate, and fascism.
I wish we had been strong enough and wise enough to do the same.
Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!
Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
Also: There are three ways to not tell the truth: lies, damned lies, and statistics.
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Re: Viva Le Pen
Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.
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Keep on drinkinggbasden wrote:Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.
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gbasden wrote:Nice to see that not every country is dumb enough to fall for Putin's dirty tricks.
You're just trying to make Putin feel better after he wasted all that money, aren't you.em2nought wrote:
Keep on drinking
He won. Period.
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And I'm certain you think it's all just another inexplicable coincidence that the candidate most hostile to Russia's interest just happened to get hacked. P. T. Barnum would be proud of you!em2nought wrote:
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At this point none of that matters.
The only thing that does is the number and severity of terror attacks under his watch.
That will determine if his stay in power lasts.
I predict France will become even more of a powder keg than it has been, we shall see.
The only thing that does is the number and severity of terror attacks under his watch.
That will determine if his stay in power lasts.
I predict France will become even more of a powder keg than it has been, we shall see.
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It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.
President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
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I believe Dubbya was referring to the lifestyle of fat cats in Washington D.C. not changing, and he was correct.Zarathud wrote:President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
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If anything, corruption has become even more common place in Washington with the Mangerine in power.
Thanks Putin!
Thanks Putin!
He won. Period.
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em2nought wrote:I believe Dubbya was referring to the lifestyle of fat cats in Washington D.C. not changing, and he was correct.Zarathud wrote:President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
Hodor.
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While I agree that his sentiment was better the Patriot act proved it a lie. Our way of life changed substantially.Zarathud wrote:It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.
President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Viva Le Pen
Trump just replaced it with nepotism (Ivanka/Jared), direct sales of government access (Mar a Lago/Kushner family visa sales) and direct control of government by billionaires, oil industry and Wall Street. He's upgraded to even fatter cats--and Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan seem pretty comfortable too.
But that has nothing to do with the French being on the front lines of fighting Russian and terrorist influence while maintaining a multicultural democracy. They didn't surrender -- but America did.
But that has nothing to do with the French being on the front lines of fighting Russian and terrorist influence while maintaining a multicultural democracy. They didn't surrender -- but America did.
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
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What? Did they put Macron in office? I am outraged, outraged I tell you.Zarathud wrote:It's so comforting to know that Rip is ok with letting the terrorists and Russia decide democratic elections around the world.
President W. Bush at least said terrorists were not going to change our way of life.
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You realize that Macron's was the victim of an email hack, just like Hillary Clinton was (an hour after the release of the infamous Trump p@%#y grabbing tape, oddly enough), right? Putin has favorites. Macron is not one of them. Neither was Hillary. He likes candidates who he feels might weaken NATO and destabilize countries/regions he sees as threats. So he seeks to embarrass and damage them via these methods.
Congratulations, Comrade! You serve a new master...and you're probably not even aware of it.
Congratulations, Comrade! You serve a new master...and you're probably not even aware of it.
He won. Period.
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Sorry, I can't get too worked up by hackers exposing people's dirty laundry.
Also not convinced Putin is behind it. There are tons of hacking(and government) groups that enjoying doing these things.
Also not convinced Putin is behind it. There are tons of hacking(and government) groups that enjoying doing these things.
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So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.
But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!
You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?
But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!
You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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You were so "not worked up" that you posted links to alt-right propaganda about fake news dirty laundry within 36 hours.Rip wrote:Sorry, I can't get too worked up by hackers exposing people's dirty laundry.
The forensic evidence proves what you deny. Bury your head in the sand, but your blind lies are Hurting America.
"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
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Proven to be fakes? Source?Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.
But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!
You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?
The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.
http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear
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Dude. "animeright.news"? Your number one source for up-to-date legitimate tentacle rape news? AWESOME!
Black Lives Matter
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Rip's already got his Russian uniform picked out. Quit raining on his parade!
He won. Period.
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I could link straight to 4chan if you prefer.
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Or you could look to reputable news sites for your information instead of rabid alt-right sites and porn boards.
But hey, whatever tells you what you want to hear, amirite?
But hey, whatever tells you what you want to hear, amirite?
He won. Period.
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When you're a star, they let you tentacle rape them.NickAragua wrote:Dude. "animeright.news"? Your number one source for up-to-date legitimate tentacle rape news? AWESOME!
Black Lives Matter.
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What happens between two sentient beings with assorted appendages is their own business.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Plus, I mean - "news" is right there in the URL. How much more legitimate can you get?
Black Lives Matter.
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Macron Won, But The French Polls Were Way Off
Emmanuel Macron’s 32-percentage-point victory in France’s presidential election runoff may end up being touted as a triumph for French pollsters, who consistently gave him a huge advantage. But it shouldn’t be. The polls leading up to the contest between the centrist Macron and his far-right opponent were the least predictive in French history, underestimating Macron’s support, rather than Marine Le Pen’s, to the surprise of some.
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Here's an article from France24, a genuine news source, which details the release of the docs and the rumor-mongering around them.Rip wrote:Proven to be fakes? Source?Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.
But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!
You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?
The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.
http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear
Macron's campaign has launched a highly public lawsuit, which seems like the wrong thing to do if you've got easily verifiable bank accounts (complete with alleged docs and account numbers) you're trying to keep hidden.
I'll continue watching the story to see what truths come out. In fact I can think of other public figures whose tax information deserves very close inspection. Can't you?
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Come on man, animeright.news is far more credible. I know, I saw a video by a guy who runs an Inuyasha fan blog on myspace!
Black Lives Matter
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Their recreation of the Iran nuclear deal using characters from Ranma 1/2 was both thought provoking and funny.
He won. Period.
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All of the debunking in that article come down to the pdf having some blurred images. Which I say again isn't an issue now that image scans are out and they DO NOT have the blurs in question. The only thing they use beyond that to "debunk" is badmouthing the source.Holman wrote:Here's an article from France24, a genuine news source, which details the release of the docs and the rumor-mongering around them.Rip wrote:Proven to be fakes? Source?Holman wrote:So far I haven't heard of any genuinely dirty laundry revealed by the Macron hacks. The tax evasion docs your conspiracy site was touting are being shown to be fakes.
But it does turn out that *someone* didn't fully clean up after themselves: some of the dumped docs appear to contain metadata tags in Cyrillic. Quelle coincidence!
You're fine with that, though, right Rip? Attempts to undermine democracy are good when they're intended to help your side?
The only debunking I saw was on the .pdf files, but once better scans were released the inconsistencies of the sig and such was shown to be due to crappy conversion not doc altering.
http://animeright.news/zanting/new-high ... nts-appear
Macron's campaign has launched a highly public lawsuit, which seems like the wrong thing to do if you've got easily verifiable bank accounts (complete with alleged docs and account numbers) you're trying to keep hidden.
I'll continue watching the story to see what truths come out. In fact I can think of other public figures whose tax information deserves very close inspection. Can't you?
Far too much bunk in the debunking.
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So nothing from you about whether Russian interference in western elections is bad?
Or are you sticking to the "180kg guy in Marseille" version?
Or are you sticking to the "180kg guy in Marseille" version?
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Sure it is bad but it isn't new or very effective.
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It isn't new, but why do you say it isn't effective?Rip wrote:Sure it is bad but it isn't new or very effective.
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