Right, but the thing is that I'm not disagreeing with that part (the "do anything that works" part). I'm saying that if "people" (and the fixing thereof) were a part of the problem, you would need to account for why mass shooting rates are disproportionately high in the United States. Presumably either there is something uniquely problematic about people in the United States, or the problem is disproportionately about access to guns rather than "people".LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:53 amYou could have included the next sentence:El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:23 amYeah, all we need to do is fix people. In any event, the bigger issue with the "it's a problem with people argument" is that it doesn't really explain the vast differences in frequency of mass shootings between nations (and really, between the United States and most nations), unless you think there is something uniquely American about shooting a lot of people.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:02 am Normal people don't go shoot other people. Just possessing a gun doesn't make normal people go shoot other people. It's a people problem.
LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:02 am Granted you can fix access much easier than fixing people so ultimately we probably need to work on both.
But again, all for any combination of things that works.