Political Randomness

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue May 01, 2018 1:51 pm

Moliere wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:27 pm I like that one of her jabs is about places like CNN not being about news. Almost every show on every news network is about entertainment, not delivering news. Seriously, why do they all insist on having panels of guests interrupt each other in order to deliver their 30 second sound bite?

Her joke about breaking news was amazing. That was something we make fun of at work. If it isn't missing planes it is "breaking news" (which it isn't nearly every time). They are terrible and fuck their autoplaying videos on every page as a random aside.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue May 01, 2018 2:02 pm

Defiant wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:29 pm At a rally to end divisive politics in D.C., speaker calls lawmaker a ‘fake Jew’

FTFA:

The event, which attracted about 25 people, was fairly low key until Abdul Khadir Muhammad, a Mid-Atlantic representative for Farrakhan, spoke.

That's not a rally, its people jabbering on a random streetcorner.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue May 01, 2018 4:43 pm

malchior wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:51 pm
Moliere wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:27 pm I like that one of her jabs is about places like CNN not being about news. Almost every show on every news network is about entertainment, not delivering news. Seriously, why do they all insist on having panels of guests interrupt each other in order to deliver their 30 second sound bite?
Her joke about breaking news was amazing. That was something we make fun of at work. If it isn't missing planes it is "breaking news" (which it isn't nearly every time). They are terrible and fuck their autoplaying videos on every page as a random aside.

CNN's website does more to make me hate CNN than anything Trump could say.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue May 01, 2018 5:03 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 4:43 pm
malchior wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:51 pm
Moliere wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 1:27 pm I like that one of her jabs is about places like CNN not being about news. Almost every show on every news network is about entertainment, not delivering news. Seriously, why do they all insist on having panels of guests interrupt each other in order to deliver their 30 second sound bite?
Her joke about breaking news was amazing. That was something we make fun of at work. If it isn't missing planes it is "breaking news" (which it isn't nearly every time). They are terrible and fuck their autoplaying videos on every page as a random aside.
CNN's website does more to make me hate CNN than anything Trump could say.

Oh, their panelist segments are a million times worse than anything on their website.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Tue May 01, 2018 5:17 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue May 01, 2018 5:03 pm Oh, their panelist segments are a million times worse than anything on their website.

For $100k I would happily sit on a panel and interrupt the other guests to explain why Trump is bad/good.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:11 pm

So tonight #metoo looks to have taken down NY AG Schneiderman after four women accuse him of physical abuse.

Cuomo has ordered an investigation but has suggested that Schneiderman resign for the good of the office. Seems reasonable considering the stakes here.

Now to the even more random randomness. Schneiderman has figured prominently in the Louise Mensch narratives about how the NYAG will take down Trump. She is not taking this well.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:22 pm

Mensch is totally nuts or totally playing a game, so she can be forgotten.

Schneiderman's shame will probably seem like bad news for some partisans who've looked to him as heroic Trump opponent, but they'll have to get over it. It looks like Schneiderman did awful things, and he's out.

The investigation doesn't depend on him. It's justice, not politics, and justice isn't about personalities.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:47 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 9:22 pm It's justice, not politics, and justice isn't about personalities.

Oh, how I wish I believed that.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon May 07, 2018 9:59 pm

And Schneiderman is gone - just resigned.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon May 07, 2018 10:03 pm

Is it just me, or are people really quick to rush to judgement, calling for his resignation within hours of the accusations coming out? I mean, calling for him to temporarily step aside, sure, but shouldn't they at least investigate the allegations before calling for his resignation?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 07, 2018 10:06 pm

malchior wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 9:59 pm And Schneiderman is gone - just resigned.

If the allegations are true, then it's good he's gone.

Makes it all the more infuriating that the orange shitbag gets to keep his office and simply sit back and gloat while accused of similar things himself.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon May 07, 2018 10:10 pm

Defiant wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:03 pm Is it just me, or are people really quick to rush to judgement, calling for his resignation within hours of the accusations coming out? I mean, calling for him to temporarily step aside, sure, but shouldn't they at least investigate the allegations before calling for his resignation?

Normally I'd say yes - but the AG is too a bit too high up the chain for these types of allegations. He can't be an effective agent for the law with this sort of cloud hanging over him.

Edit: As an aside - I have been seeing this rush to judgement in several forums and it disturbs me a bit. For instance, there were a few incidents in the roller derby community recently. One was where a person made allegations of bullying/racism against a team they were once a member of. People were screaming about a lack of response (we are talking under 12 hours)...despite the team being accused largely consisting of folks in Australia and the public post about the allegations was made during the day in the United States. It was completely unreasonable to expect that people running a niche sport team to be ready to respond to accusations at any time of the day. And there were several other incidents of this type and with expectations of immediate response. It certainly feels like it is instant justice that some people want instead of actual justice. I don't see that as being the same here though.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon May 07, 2018 10:20 pm

I think the frequency of these accusations makes it all the more vital that we observe due process and investigate as thoroughly as possible before destroying someone’s life. All it takes is one false claim to muddy the waters for anyone with a valid one.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 pm

Defiant wrote:Is it just me, or are people really quick to rush to judgement, calling for his resignation within hours of the accusations coming out? I mean, calling for him to temporarily step aside, sure, but shouldn't they at least investigate the allegations before calling for his resignation?

As with Roy Moore, the article seemed to have a lot of strongly vetted information.

Fighting it would also be u-g-l-y ugly - he said /she said (with multiple partners) about whether the violence in the bedroom was consensual.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon May 07, 2018 11:11 pm

Perhaps there truly is a Trump tweet for every occasion.

Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue May 08, 2018 1:04 am

Moliere wrote: ↑Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:26 pm Cynthia Nixon Is Gaining on Andrew Cuomo

For weeks now, New York politicos have been jazzed about former Sex and the City co-star Cynthia Nixon’s insurgent campaign for New York governor. The incumbent, Andrew Cuomo, has become a villain on the party’s left even as he reportedly draws up plans to join the throng of Democrats likely to run for the presidency in 2020. Nixon, speaking stridently on topics like wealth inequality and mass incarceration, has directed her pitch squarely at those disgruntled progressives. As the New York Times reported Tuesday, she’s gained 16 points worth of ground against Cuomo in the past month, although he still holds a healthy lead, 58 percent to 27. Cuomo’s approval rating has also slipped beneath 50 percent for the first time since 2015.

Cynthia Nixon ignites outrage for saying marijuana could be ‘form of reparations’ in black neighborhoods

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Tue May 08, 2018 2:59 am

Defiant wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 1:04 am Cynthia Nixon ignites outrage for saying marijuana could be ‘form of reparations’ in black neighborhoods

Poor choice of words, but her point is valid: Those who risked prosecution to provide a wanted service should get first crack at cashing in legally. Equating that with race is awkward and unnecessary, and "reparations" is a loaded word.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue May 08, 2018 3:15 am

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:32 pm
Defiant wrote:Is it just me, or are people really quick to rush to judgement, calling for his resignation within hours of the accusations coming out? I mean, calling for him to temporarily step aside, sure, but shouldn't they at least investigate the allegations before calling for his resignation?
As with Roy Moore, the article seemed to have a lot of strongly vetted information.

This.

It's not an announcement that several women have accused him, it's an article detailing the abuse.

No one is calling for him to be hanged, or even arrested. Losing your job as the AG of NY? I think that's a reasonable outcome to the situation.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue May 08, 2018 3:19 am

Rip wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:11 pm Perhaps there truly is a Trump tweet for every occasion.

Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner

A broken clock and all that.

He probably had inside information because...he was an active participant when it happened. This is like Weinstein tweeting about Drumpf being guilty of assault. Sure, it might be true, but one scumbag calling out another scumbag doesn't redeem the first scumbag.

In this case, Drumpf is the first scumbag.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 08, 2018 6:09 am

Hillary Clinton for NY AG?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 08, 2018 6:17 am

Defiant wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 10:03 pm Is it just me, or are people really quick to rush to judgement, calling for his resignation within hours of the accusations coming out? I mean, calling for him to temporarily step aside, sure, but shouldn't they at least investigate the allegations before calling for his resignation?

In retrospect, it's very possible that Schneiderman had already told him he was resigning when he made the tweet. The New Yorker's lawyers had probably provided Schneiderman with the article before it went public.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Tue May 08, 2018 6:34 am

Check the date on that tweet.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 am

Chaz wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:34 am Check the date on that tweet.

Defiant and I aren't talking about Trump. We're talking about Gov. Cuomo's statement last night. He called for Schneiderman to resign very soon after the news broke.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue May 08, 2018 7:57 am

Kistening to NPR while taking a shower it was all about DC. That kinda stuff will cause you to lose IQ.

1. Yesterday the first lady announces her platform of children. Today Trump says he will take 7 billion from childrens health care to help with his 1.3 trillion spending.

2. So important guy has 4 women come forward and accuse him of physical abuse. He says hey dont worry about that it doesn't affect my job ability.

3. Some pundit speaks about the Gov withdrawing aid to Iran with the sanctions. So you sanction someone then give them food medicine and money anyways Why bother?? "Hey buddy we're taking away that $100 bill to hurt you. But heres 100 $1 bills to help you"

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue May 08, 2018 8:39 am

malchior wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 9:11 pm So tonight #metoo looks to have taken down NY AG Schneiderman after four women accuse him of physical abuse.

Cuomo has ordered an investigation but has suggested that Schneiderman resign for the good of the office. Seems reasonable considering the stakes here.

Now to the even more random randomness. Schneiderman has figured prominently in the Louise Mensch narratives about how the NYAG will take down Trump. She is not taking this well.

*Mensch tweets removed*

She's gone even more off the deep end about Schneiderman this morning. Insisting that he's the reason why Donald Trump is under sealed indictment. That he decided to resign effective today rather than last night so he can do more work against Trump. That Cyrus Vance (DA in Manhattan) is a Russian stooge. Retweeted someone who said a WWIII proxy war is literally being played out in the courts. Claimed what Schneiderman is being accused of was all consensual (because that's what Schneiderman himself said). Called the whole thing a victory for Putin. She's even more unhinged than usual.

Icing on the cake:

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue May 08, 2018 8:40 am

Holman wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 7:32 am
Chaz wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:34 am Check the date on that tweet.
Defiant and I aren't talking about Trump. We're talking about Gov. Cuomo's statement last night. He called for Schneiderman to resign very soon after the news broke.

I think he was talking to GreenGoo about Rip's tweet?

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue May 08, 2018 9:29 am

Chaz wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 6:34 am Check the date on that tweet.

I saw it.

Presumably the AG's transgressions happened over a number of years. It's not too far fetched that Drumpf, a denizen of NYC, had knowledge of the AG's closet skeletons back in 2013.

Or perhaps the tweets were about something else? Given Drumpf's pattern of behaviour, his tweet could have been referring to a complete fabrication that only existed in his head.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue May 08, 2018 9:45 am

Rip wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 11:11 pm Perhaps there truly is a Trump tweet for every occasion.

Weiner is gone, Spitzer is gone - next will be lightweight A.G. Eric Schneiderman. Is he a crook? Wait and see, worse than Spitzer or Weiner

Have you noticed no one defends someone on the like this when there is common belief there is problem when it comes to the left and yet all the right do is circle wagons when it's their guy and gloat that the collapse when it's not. You are beacon! Every time your light is shone, you warn us to stay away. You shine with most importance when there is fog, not to guide us the proper way but rather to serve caution against drowning in a wreckage on what is the inhospitable hidden rocks of destruction you consider a wonderful maritime home.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue May 08, 2018 9:55 am

And Eric Greitens is still governor of Missouri....

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue May 08, 2018 10:00 am

So what you are saying is you see me like a lighthouse of life?

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue May 08, 2018 10:21 am

Rip wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:00 am So what you are saying is you see me like a lighthouse of life?

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Tue May 08, 2018 10:38 am

The light comes from a dumpster fire, so don't count on it for the long term.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue May 08, 2018 10:40 am

Zarathud wrote: ↑Tue May 08, 2018 10:38 am The light comes from a dumpster fire, so don't count on it for the long term.

I dunno, it seems to shine brightest when the weather is at its worst.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu May 10, 2018 9:16 pm

YK, do you miss him yet?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat May 12, 2018 8:19 pm

Texas Tech:

A new program out of Texas Tech University helps "transitioning" men on their "vocal presentation" so that they can sound more feminine.

After working with professional speech pathologists, the transgender men should be able to leave the program with a pitch and vocal quality that better corresponds to their newly-selected gender. Speech therapists Angela Van Sickle and James Dembowski lead the program.
...
Though the class offers assistance to both spectrums of transgenders, mostly male-to-female students attend.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sat May 12, 2018 9:02 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 8:19 pm Texas Tech:

A new program out of Texas Tech University helps "transitioning" men on their "vocal presentation" so that they can sound more feminine.

After working with professional speech pathologists, the transgender men should be able to leave the program with a pitch and vocal quality that better corresponds to their newly-selected gender. Speech therapists Angela Van Sickle and James Dembowski lead the program.
...
Though the class offers assistance to both spectrums of transgenders, mostly male-to-female students attend.

The fundamental flaw with that article is that transgender men would generally want to sound more masculine, not more feminine. If they're going to toss around cool buzz words, the author or editor should at least make the effort to learn what they mean.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat May 12, 2018 9:13 pm

Given other areas of the site, I doubt they're overly concerned with such things.

Wiki

The Daily Wire is an American conservative news and opinion website founded in 2015 by political commentator Ben Shapiro

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sat May 12, 2018 9:51 pm

Ah, well then...

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Sat May 12, 2018 11:08 pm

Fox13 Memphis wrote:Teen stabbed with scissors after pulling student's dress up at Memphis school, police say

That's a weird way to say "Sexual assault victim uses self-defense to escape her attacker"

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat May 12, 2018 11:24 pm

According to the police report, a student pulled up a girl's dress inside of a classroom at Central High School. The victim then grabbed a pair of scissors. She tried multiple times to stab the student before she connected.
...
The male student told police that he was only playing and never exposed the victim, the police report said.

The male student was issued a juvenile summons for sexual battery. The female student was issued a juvenile summons for aggravated assault.

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