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Re: Russia influences election

Post by gbasden » Sat Aug 04, 2018 6:46 pm

em2nought wrote:
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I’ve been really busy this week, and have mostly ignored the derp-o-sphere.

Are we back to the “3 million illegal Mexican voters” thing again?
Of course. It fits right in with QAnon, Pizzagate and other right wing nutjob "theories".
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Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:01 pm

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Microsoft has uncovered new hacking attempts by Russia targeting U.S. political groups ahead of the midterm elections.

The company said Tuesday that a group tied to the Russian government created fake websites that appeared to spoof two American conservative organizations: the Hudson Institute and the International Republican Institute. Three other fake sites were designed to look as if they belonged to the U.S. Senate.

Microsoft didn’t offer any further description of the fake sites, and the Russian officials dismissed its claims as unfounded.
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Microsoft calls the hacking group Strontium; others call it Fancy Bear or APT28. An indictment from U.S. special counsel Robert Mueller has tied it to Russian’s main intelligence agency, known as the GRU, and to the 2016 email hacking of both the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign.
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Microsoft has waged a legal battle with Strontium since suing it in a Virginia federal court in summer 2016. The company obtained court approval last year allowing it to seize certain fake domains created by the group. It has so far used the courts to shut down 84 fake websites created by the group, including the most recent six announced Tuesday.

Microsoft has argued in court that by setting up fake but realistic-looking domains, the hackers were misusing Microsoft trademarks and services to hack into targeted computer networks, install malware and steal sensitive emails and other data.

Smith also announced Tuesday that the company is offering free cybersecurity protection to all U.S. political candidates, campaigns and other political organizations, at least so long as they’re already using Microsoft’s Office 365 productivity software. Facebook and Google have also promoted similar tools to combat campaign interference.
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Reality Winner, 26, had faced up to 10 years in prison, but this was reduced to 63 months under a plea deal.
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Her sentence is reported to be the longest given for passing confidential material to a media outlet.
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Re: Russia influences election

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Post by Skinypupy » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:20 pm

Interesting tonal shift from DHS this morning
Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen on Wednesday called out Russian President Vladimir Putin by name for interfering in the 2016 US election, calling it a "direct attack" on US democracy.

"At Vladimir Putin's direction, Moscow launched a brazen, multi-faceted influence campaign to undermine public faith in our democratic process and to distort our presidential election," Nielsen said at George Washington University in Washington. "Although no actual ballots were altered by this campaign, make no mistake: This was a direct attack on our democracy."

Nielsen continued that the administration "will not tolerate" such interference nor "let it happen again."
My guess is that she makes this statement so the administration can say "See, we're tough on Russia!" without having to actually, you know, do anything.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:27 pm

With elections coming up, it helps to make the right noises in public.

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Post by hepcat » Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:37 pm

Don't worry. Trump will soon tweet again that it was really China behind it all. He won't do anything that might see those pee pee tapes released.
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Re: Russia influences election

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Don't worry, Barron is after him.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:13 pm

Of course, we don’t actually know that no ballots were changed.

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Post by Paingod » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:27 pm

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Of course, we don’t actually know that no ballots were changed.
Are you saying that Russia didn't directly alter a ballot, or that they didn't sway a voter? I'm not sure they compromised a vote once it had been cast, but they certainly played a role in everything up to that point.
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Post by Ralph-Wiggum » Wed Sep 05, 2018 5:56 pm

We have no way of knowing whether Russia manipulated votes after they were cast because most states didn't do audits and some states can't do audits b/c no paper trail. We do know that Russia hacked or tried to hack into the computer election systems of many states. What if anything they accomplished, we don't and likely will never know because of the above two issues. So my point is that it is incorrect to say that Russia didn't change vote totals because we can't be sure whether they did or not.

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Post by Zarathud » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:33 am

Why hasn't Trump been confronted with this approach:

Liberals may hack the voting system to depress Trump votes. We need to improve our voting systems to make them impenetrable in response.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by Paingod » Thu Sep 06, 2018 9:13 am

Because deep down, he really wants Putin to turn more of those 3.6 million fake votes into real votes for him. Putin can't do that if we start locking the screen door he used last time.
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Post by Pyperkub » Thu Sep 13, 2018 6:51 pm

Manafort and Mueller may have come to a plea deal:
Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort has tentatively agreed to a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller that will head off his upcoming trial, sources familiar with the negotiations tell ABC News.

The deal is expected to be announced in court Friday, but it remains unclear whether Manafort has agreed to cooperate with prosecutors or is simply conceding to a guilty plea, which would allow him to avoid the stress and expense of trial, according to three sources with knowledge of the discussions.
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Re: Russia influences election

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*tweet storm inbound*

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by em2nought » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:15 am

Surely the left leaning tech giants can come up with some "algorithms" to curtail the Ruskies? They've been honing their skills by blocking/hiding/banning/demonetizing actual American "conservatives", or anyone who says something they don't like. :naughty:
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:29 am

Has any verified the Em2 is not a bot? It feels like he's a bot.

It's nothing but memes and alt-facts from weird corners of the internet, 24/7.

...and russian propaganda.

Edit: Like, none of that is true, and has been easily refuted.

Why on earth would a human being feel the need to repeat Jones conspiracy theories if they weren't getting paid?

For the lulz? Because it's fun to fuck with people? Where I come from that just makes you an asshole. This can't be what 40% of America has become.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by hepcat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:38 am

em2nought wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:15 am
Surely the left leaning tech giants can come up with some "algorithms" to curtail the Ruskies? They've been honing their skills by blocking/hiding/banning/demonetizing actual American "conservatives", or anyone who says something they don't like. :naughty:
Too bad everyone on the right is so friggin' stupid that they can't build their own social media platforms, and instead have to constantly whine and beg the left to let them use theirs. :lol:

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by em2nought » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:06 am

hepcat wrote:
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Too bad everyone on the right is so friggin' stupid that they can't build their own social media platforms
If it wasn't for all that leftist indoctrination during university... Maybe when you purge your tech giants of suspected conservatives, we'll find some talent. :think:

I guess I should be happy that we at least have one media outlet, even though they're a bit soft.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:09 am

em2nought wrote:
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Too bad everyone on the right is so friggin' stupid that they can't build their own social media platforms
If it wasn't for all that leftist indoctrination during university... Maybe when you purge your tech giants of suspected conservatives, we'll find some talent. :think:

I guess I should be happy that we at least have one media outlet, even though they're a bit soft.
I've recently been made aware that a majority of post secondary learning stablishments are for-profit in the US. So now all I hear is you complaining about capitalism. You're not really a big fan of your country, are you? Make sure you throw a monkey wrench into the gears before you abandon it.

Holy crap, nothing your fault is it, ya big snowflake.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by hepcat » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:11 am

You know who gets indoctrinated that easily? Weak minded people.

And purging conservatives from tech giants will only result in you guys getting even dumber IT support. Stop whining about not getting fair coverage (which is a lie anyway, but hey...you saw it on Fox so it must be true!) and go build your own damn social media platform. The rest of us are tired of doing everything for you.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by LordMortis » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:40 am

No red blooded American says "during university"

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:07 am

LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:40 am
No red blooded American says "during university"
Lol, awesome.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by LordMortis » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:20 am

GreenGoo wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:07 am
LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:40 am
No red blooded American says "during university"
Lol, awesome.
It's true, during university / at university are socialistic expressions. Ask any Canadian or European. IN AMERICA we go to college. We graduate from College. We we're done, we will have spent our time in college and earned our college degree and will have attended college. Our high school is for college prep. We label degrees Bachelor's and higher from a University (That and the toon degree). But that's it. Everything else, unless you are referring to University by name. College.

Round here, if you say "during university" you may as well say "It was boot the time I got my ring in engineering."

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Post by Freyland » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:02 pm

"boot".

Teehee :lol:
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by em2nought » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:13 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:20 am
GreenGoo wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:07 am
LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:40 am
No red blooded American says "during university"
Lol, awesome.
It's true, during university / at university are socialistic expressions. Ask any Canadian or European. IN AMERICA we go to college. We graduate from College. We we're done, we will have spent our time in college and earned our college degree and will have attended college. Our high school is for college prep. We label degrees Bachelor's and higher from a University (That and the toon degree). But that's it. Everything else, unless you are referring to University by name. College.

Round here, if you say "during university" you may as well say "It was boot the time I got my ring in engineering."
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by Jeff V » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm

LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:20 am

Round here, if you say "during university" you may as well say "It was boot the time I got my ring in engineering."
Wait a second...in America, we say "Around." Only the queen's cabana boys use "round" when they mean "around." IMPOSTER!!!!

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:48 pm

Freyland wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:02 pm
"boot".

Teehee :lol:

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by LordMortis » Fri Sep 14, 2018 2:45 pm

Jeff V wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:11 pm
LordMortis wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:20 am

Round here, if you say "during university" you may as well say "It was boot the time I got my ring in engineering."
Wait a second...in America, we say "Around." Only the queen's cabana boys use "round" when they mean "around." IMPOSTER!!!!
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Post by Pyperkub » Tue Oct 09, 2018 1:59 pm

Troll factory in St Pete firebombed last night:
The office of Russia’s infamous troll factory believed to be at the vanguard of Russia’s information war has been set on fire in St. Petersburg overnight...

...The Fontanka.ru news website cited police as saying that an unknown suspect broke the agency’s ground-floor window and threw a Molotov cocktail inside at around 3 a.m. on Tuesday.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Kind of heavy handed for clandestine work if it is (pretty big if), but I like it.

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What's Russian for Reichstag?
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by El Guapo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:31 pm

Assorted news items on where the Russia investigation may be going.

Here's my favorite part, though:
“I think we’ll be treated very fairly,” President Trump told reporters yesterday, after meeting with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. “Everybody understands there was no collusion, there’s no Russia. It was all made up by the Democrats.”
Now Trump really has Mueller over a barrel. Mueller got so excited over various possible misdeeds between Trump and Russia, he *forgot to check whether Russia is a country*. Since there's no Russia, there's nothing for Trump to collude with, and the investigation must be shut down.

Seems airtight.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by LawBeefaroni » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:37 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
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What's Russian for Reichstag?
Pretty sure it's "Reichstag."

Anyway, I think this fire was small and contained.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by Isgrimnur » Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:43 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote:
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What's Russian for Reichstag?
Pretty sure it's "Reichstag."

Anyway, I think this fire was small and contained.
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Re: Russia influences election

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GreenGoo wrote:
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Kind of heavy handed for clandestine work if it is (pretty big if), but I like it.
What's more clandestine than making it look like it's not clandestine? :ninja:

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by Holman » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:01 pm

Putin is experiencing a rare and real drop in popularity because Russia's pension system is collapsing.

A sudden internal-security crisis seems pretty convenient.
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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:10 pm

Alefroth wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:59 pm
GreenGoo wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 2:35 pm
Kind of heavy handed for clandestine work if it is (pretty big if), but I like it.
What's more clandestine than making it look like it's not clandestine? :ninja:
Maybe. But by that argument, assassinating someone by shooting them in the face in the middle of a crowded intersection is as clandestine as it gets.

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Re: Russia influences election

Post by GreenGoo » Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:11 pm

Holman wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:01 pm
Putin is experiencing a rare and real drop in popularity because Russia's pension system is collapsing.
I feel for the average Russian, but I'm still :dance: about the whole thing.

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