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I love that Kobach is involved, seeing as he's proven that he knows nothing about legal procedure.
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Alefroth wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 12:10 pm Color me surprised that the Gofundme dipshits are either incompetent or sleazy.
Oh come on...they can be both.
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Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
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What are you talking about? We're perfectly fine with them continuing to fleece your kind. :mrgreen:
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em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
Democrats invented zoning laws after all.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:24 pm
em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
Democrats invented zoning laws after all.
You've got me there, zoning laws are definitely more of a republican "thing".
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em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
God forbid they require such horribly unreasonable things like "actually get construction permits" and "allow inspectors to check the wall and make sure it isn't going to fall down and kill someone". The latter of which I would assume to be a significantly likely outcome, given the previous level of diligence and care this group of chucklefucks has put into this particular project.

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I was trying to find out more about the Mayor as that level of government isn't usually run by Democrats and Republicans (in my experience) - or at least it doesn't matter much in a town of 14k. Anyway, I found this very unbiased article from the Tennessee Star.

I particularly like the scare quotes around "independent" and leading off with the plan for an Amnesty Week. From the article, can you tell what the Amnesty was for? Or even guess?
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Sunland Park Mayor Javier Perea – an “independent” who supported Senator Bernie Sanders in 2016 (pictured above) – held a press conference about the border wall Tuesday afternoon.

Perea said the city learned about construction of the wall and tried to access the site last Thursday but were denied entry. He said that the property owner applied for a permit Friday but the documents are incomplete. The construction violates city ordinances, and the matter has been given over to city court, he said.

The mayor also cited safety concerns, saying the wall could block emergency response efforts in that area.

The Sunland Park City Council has been vocally in favor of immigration, both legal and illegal, according to documents on the city government’s website.

The council held a special meeting Tuesday evening to discuss the budget as well as pass a resolution declaring June 3-7 as Amnesty Week.

The council also has advocated the city as the site for a possible port of entry operation. The council commissioned a study for the proposed Camino Real de Tierra Adentro International Port of Entry (POE). The study is available here.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:24 pm
em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
Democrats invented zoning laws after all.
There's a way around it, it just requires one tiny tick mark on the design plans.

Old: The wall shall be 18' high.
New: The wall shall be 18" high.

Zoning problem solved and they can probably afford to buy a few hundred more yards of the stupid thing!
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Exactly, Smoove!
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:24 pm
em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
Democrats invented zoning laws after all.
Here's the article:
Kris Kobach, general counsel for We Build the Wall, said in a statement that building, development and rock wall permits had been filed, and that city inspectors had given the project a green light before Memorial Day weekend.
"We were then instructed by the same city officials that we were good to proceed with construction over the holiday weekend and that we would not have any issues being shut down," Kobach said.
City manager: 'We don't selectively enforce the law'
Sunland Park City Manager Julia Brown told CNN the city's "cease and desist" order has nothing to do with politics.
"There is no political motivation on the part of the city, simply our interest in having our code and ordinances complied with," she said.
"This applicant is not being treated any differently from any other applicant in that all applicants are expected to comply with the law. We don't selectively enforce the law, do not show favoritism or ignore our own laws."
I'm pretty sure that's the same Kris Kobach who was on the verge of having his law license suspended and ordered to take remedial legal classes in Kansas.
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Technically, he shouldn't be here.
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They built enough to fool the rubes they fleeced, so they don’t really care.
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https://theintercept.com/2019/06/11/pri ... mBK-GBkoJ0
WE BUILD THE WALL, the crowdfunded, ultra-right group that put up a multimillion-dollar border wall just west of El Paso in southern New Mexico, has said that it only builds on private land. But earlier this month, the group extended its wall onto government land — without asking first for government permission.
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Apparently under criminal investigation now as well:
Last month, this reporter sent Florida’s Department of Agriculture and Consumer Affairs a public-records request for “copies of any notices, subpoenas, or any other records pertinent to the investigation of WeBuildTheWall Inc.” The agency oversees Florida charities.

“Your public records request was forwarded to the Office of General Counsel for handling,” the department’s senior attorney Rob F. Summers wrote late last week. “The records you requested are exempt from disclosure pursuant to s. 119.071(2)(c)1., F.S. (Active Criminal Investigation).”
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You hate to see it.


Audrey Strauss, the Acting United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and Philip R. Bartlett, Inspector-in-Charge of the New York Field Office of the United States Postal Inspection Service (“USPIS”), announced the unsealing of an indictment charging BRIAN KOLFAGE, STEPHEN BANNON, ANDREW BADOLATO, and TIMOTHY SHEA for their roles in defrauding hundreds of thousands of donors in connection with an online crowdfunding campaign known as “We Build the Wall” that raised more than $25 million. The defendants were arrested this morning. KOLFAGE will be presented today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Hope T. Cannon in the Northern District of Florida. BANNON will be presented today in the Southern District of New York. BADOLATO will be presented today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Thomas Wilson in the Middle District of Florida. SHEA will be presented today before U.S. Magistrate Judge Kristen L. Mix in the District of Colorado. The case is assigned to U.S. District Judge Analisa Torres in the Southern District of New York.

Acting U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss said: “As alleged, the defendants defrauded hundreds of thousands of donors, capitalizing on their interest in funding a border wall to raise millions of dollars, under the false pretense that all of that money would be spent on construction. While repeatedly assuring donors that Brian Kolfage, the founder and public face of We Build the Wall, would not be paid a cent, the defendants secretly schemed to pass hundreds of thousands of dollars to Kolfage, which he used to fund his lavish lifestyle. We thank the USPIS for their partnership in investigating this case, and we remain dedicated to rooting out and prosecuting fraud wherever we find it.”
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Poor Steve Bannon. :violin:
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Is that Stephen Bannon the Stephen Bannon? Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
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stessier wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:53 am Is that Stephen Bannon the Stephen Bannon? Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
Indeed. Only the best people.
Former White House adviser Steve Bannon was arrested Thursday on charges that he and three others ripped off donors to an online fundraising scheme “We Build The Wall.”
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This is what happens when you don't cut in the boss. Amateurs.
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Trump: "Steve Bannon? Barely knew the guy."
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Apparently there may be a lot of interesting names associated with this case by the time it's all sorted out.

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One reporter just now challenged Trump in a presser. He rattled off ten names of people indicted...to paraphrase...what does this say about your judgement.

Response: Obama's administration was more lawless - they spied on my campaign.

Then he started rambling about how he knew this was showboating and it was going to be an inferior wall. LOL.
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Curt Schilling is such a tool. I would not be upset to see him getting a nice slap on the wrist. So many crappy people have really popped up out of their holes the last 3-4 years. :doh:
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This is pretty surreal but I can see how these six individuals would find common ground. I know this will probably go nowhere and I get people have different ideologies but these dudes seem like some pretty shitty human beings, based on things they have been quoted as saying in the past.
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em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
:lol:

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hepcat wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:07 pm
em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
:lol:

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Well... technically they were doing something. They were lying to their supporters and stealing their money.

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I wonder if the feds waited until Bannon was on a boat before arresting him to make it look that much worse? Nothing says "guilty of unfettered greed" than being led off a boat in handcuffs.
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TheMix wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:29 pm
hepcat wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:07 pm
em2nought wrote: Wed May 29, 2019 2:20 pm Color me surprised that democrats want to obstruct people actually "doing" something. :wink:
:lol:

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Well... technically they were doing something. They were lying to their supporters and stealing their money.
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Enough wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:48 pmWanna actually get rich? Well duh, be a con artist that sets up a network of websites preying on the first group of wannabe richies to buy your trinkets.
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hepcat wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:34 pm I wonder if the feds waited until Bannon was on a boat before arresting him to make it look that much worse? Nothing says "guilty of unfettered greed" than being led off a boat in handcuffs.
He's been on the sea for weeks working on deals with the Chinese apparently.
AH HERE WE GO: Neville Crichton, who owned that yacht Bannon was arrested on, got into bed with CHINA in the automobile industry way back in 2009.

Bingo.AH HERE WE GO: Neville Crichton, who owned that yacht Bannon was arrested on, got into bed with CHINA in the automobile industry way back in 2009.

Bingo.
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I wonder if this was one of the reasons that Barr wanted Berman gone? Right now it doesn't look like anyone really close to Trump has been fingered, but that may change.
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hepcat wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 3:34 pm I wonder if the feds waited until Bannon was on a boat before arresting him to make it look that much worse? Nothing says "guilty of unfettered greed" than being led off a boat in handcuffs.
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The massive yacht remained off West Beach in Westbrook early Thursday. The New York Times reported that the yacht belongs to exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:19 pmThe New York Times reported that the yacht belongs to exiled Chinese billionaire Guo Wengui.
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Guo has been perched in a $68 million apartment on the 18th floor of a Manhattan hotel.

The Chinese billionaire claims it’s a place of self-imposed exile.

Guo fled China at some point in 2014 amid murky circumstances. President Xi Jingping was imprisoning numerous officials on corruption charges, and attention on a political sponsor of Guo’s reportedly moved him to leave the country.

In September 2017, Guo applied for political asylum in the U.S., alleging persecution by Beijing for his increasingly outspoken opposition to the Communist Party.

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Guo formed a strategic relationship with none other than former Trump campaign chairman Steve Bannon in late 2017.

United by a professed disdain for the Chinese leadership, the two formed a New York nonprofit called the “Rule of Law Fund,” supposedly aimed at leveraging $100 million to help the Chinese people live “independent of the political system of the People’s Republic of China.”

Guo and Bannon have also begun to appear in bizarre, multi-hour YouTube videos together over the past several months.

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Strategic Vision has accused Guo and Bannon of attempting to move “large amounts of funding” into the Center for Security Policy, a far-right D.C. think tank that pursues a hawkish line with China.

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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:19 pm Bannon was arrested by inspectors from the U.S. Postal Service while cruising Long Island Sound near Westbrook in a $28 million mega yacht called Lady May.
That's going to cost them some sorting machines.
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FFS people, I posted that stuff above the post just before... tap... tap...
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Enough wrote:FFS people, I posted that stuff above the post just before... tap... tap...
Now, now there's enough graft, malfeasance, and thievery to go around for everyone!
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Enough wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2020 4:24 pm FFS people, I posted that stuff above the post just before... tap... tap...

BAM!
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