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The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Holman » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:53 pm

Kim in currently in Russia on a state visit, demonstrating his love for Putin and giving the West the finger by implication. Relations between NK and other nations were very much constrained when the world still thought US wishes were important.

A propos, NK last week insulted both Mike Pompeo and John Bolton personally in public statements.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by GreenGoo » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:11 pm

Holman wrote:
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A propos, NK last week insulted both Mike Pompeo and John Bolton personally in public statements.
What bugs me about that is not that it happened, but that drumpf immediately started looking (I'm guessing, but you don't have to be Kreskin) for someone to replace them that Kim won't insult.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by $iljanus » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:19 pm

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So Trump agreed to pay a ransom demand to get him back. :coffee:
Worse, imo. Drumpf agreed to pay for the outcome of torturing an American.

That said, it's not even a drop in America's bucket and one of it's citizens will come home.

That said, America has nukes, air force and economic power. NK should get it's teeth kicked in if it wants to start trying to embarrass America on the world stage. There's defiance. There's yipping like a dog who's bark is too big for it's bite, then there's this sort of humiliation.

For all the redneck tough guys and war hawks in America, they are just going to stand back and eat this humiliation on the world stage? MAGA indeed.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Holman » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:24 pm

GreenGoo wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:11 pm
Holman wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:53 pm
A propos, NK last week insulted both Mike Pompeo and John Bolton personally in public statements.
What bugs me about that is not that it happened, but that drumpf immediately started looking (I'm guessing, but you don't have to be Kreskin) for someone to replace them that Kim won't insult.
Dennis Rodman just might be available.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:45 pm

And seriously here, that is not entirely out of the realm of possibilities, at all.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by pr0ner » Fri Apr 26, 2019 7:41 am



In case he deletes this:
“President Donald J. Trump is the greatest hostage negotiator that I know of in the history of the United States. 20 hostages, many in impossible circumstances, have been released in last two years. No money was paid.” Cheif Hostage Negotiator, USA!
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:15 am

So, he seems to be quoting the "Cheif (sic) Hostage Negotiator, USA" ??

I mean, misspelling aside - what's whit the quoting - or is he quoting himself... I mean - that's weird shit.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by GreenGoo » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am

Wait.

So he admits NK took the kid hostage?

So why is he playing nice with NK/Kim?

Talk about moral compass in the middle of a (magnetic) storm.

Take that, Lib-tards!
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:16 am

OK... I'm reading:
The most likely explanation would be that Gary Noesner, a former chief of the FBI's Crisis Negotiation Unit, made one of his occasional TV appearances and said something nice about Trump.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Holman » Sat May 04, 2019 9:39 pm

Here's Trump's response to NK's missile launch tests today:



Meanwhile, NK has announced that it will continue to negotiate with the US, but only if Pompeo and Bolton are not involved. They want to deal with Donald alone.

What could go wrong?
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Sat May 04, 2019 9:46 pm

Clearly Trump has communicated he is the only agent that is on board with them, and they have communicated that they agree.



The only thing I sit hear and wonder about is this: How does this all resonate with the disenfranchices poor white families of rural America and how they frame 'the Greatness' of America. i.e. how fucking stupid are they?

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Holman » Sun May 05, 2019 12:05 pm



OMG, stay for the whole clip. What kind of person dismisses executions with a stupid smile like this?
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Post by Jaymann » Sun May 05, 2019 12:24 pm

Yes, but Benghazi.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Isgrimnur » Thu May 09, 2019 3:42 pm

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WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. government says it has seized North Korean ship used to transport coal in violation of sanctions.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Holman » Thu May 30, 2019 9:03 pm



Love letters between Trump and Kim just got *fucking hot!*
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by hepcat » Thu May 30, 2019 9:29 pm

This would bother a decent human being.

It gives Trump a hard on.
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Post by Kraken » Thu May 30, 2019 9:43 pm

Bolton better watch his back.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:43 am

Holman wrote:
Thu May 30, 2019 9:03 pm


Love letters between Trump and Kim just got *fucking hot!*
purged official reanimated:

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Max Peck » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:45 am

There were two different officials who had been reported as having been purged. The one that seems to have resurfaced (Kim Yong-chol) was said to have been sent to a labour camp, while the one who was said to have been executed (Kim Hyok-chol) is not being reported as not dead yet so far as I know.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Unagi » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:06 am

Ah, OK - I didn't realize there were two.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Max Peck » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:22 am

While Trump and Kim Talk, North Korea Appears to Expand Its Nuclear Arsenal
Over the past year, there have been handshakes, compliments and extravagant photo-ops—in Singapore, in Hanoi and even at the demilitarized zone separating the two Koreas.

President Trump’s summit diplomacy has raised hopes around the world: Is North Korea now willing to surrender its nuclear arsenal?

Analysts who pore over satellite images of the isolated country paint a different picture: North Korea’s scientists have ramped up production of long-range missiles and the fissile material used in nuclear weapons.

Shipping containers, trucks and crowds of people moving materials and instruments at North Korea’s key weapons facilities like the Yongbyon Nuclear Scientific Research Center and the Sanum-dong missile production site, suggest North Korea has continued producing fissile material and intercontinental ballistic missiles, according to analysts Jenny Town, a fellow at the Stimson Center, a think tank specialized on security issues, and Jeffrey Lewis, a researcher at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies, a research center analyzing the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

Analysts at the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency say North Korea’s scientists may have produced 12 nuclear weapons since the first Trump-Kim meeting in Singapore last year. In total, Pyongyang could currently possess between 20 and 60 nuclear bombs, according to estimates by various security analysts.

President Trump has played down evidence gathered by security analysts that North Korea is continuing its nuclear operations, saying in a recent televised interview that Kim “promised he wouldn’t do it.” And Pyongyang has remained silent on the status of its nuclear and missile programs.
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Post by hepcat » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:37 am

When Kim Jong Un is the smartest guy in the room, it’s time to re-evaluate your leaders.
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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Isgrimnur » Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:33 pm

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Shortly before midnight on Thursday, a South Korean thermal observation device identified a mysterious heat spot floating down the Imjin River on the North Korean border.

The soldiers monitoring the foggy scene thought it was flotsam, perhaps a small ball. It turned out to be a defecting North Korean soldier. "The North Korean soldier came down the river with only his head above the water," Seoul's Joint Chiefs of Staff explained on Thursday, according to the South Korean Ministry of Defense.
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The soldier was taken into custody in the central front line of the DMZ and "expressed the intent for defection." South Korean authorities are now trying to confirm the identity of the soldier.
Looks like he had a better plan than the last guy.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Max Peck » Thu Oct 03, 2019 4:21 pm

North Korea tests submarine-capable missile fired from sea
North Korea has confirmed it test-fired a new type of a ballistic missile, a significant escalation from the short-range tests it has conducted since May.

The missile - which was able to carry a nuclear weapon - was the North's 11th test this year.

But this one, fired from a platform at sea, was capable of being launched from a submarine.

Being submarine-capable is important as it means North Korea could launch missiles far outside its territory.

According to South Korean officials, the missile flew about 450km (280 miles) and reached an altitude of 910km before landing in the sea.

That means the missile flew twice as high as the International Space Station, but previous North Korean tests have gone higher.

It came down in the Sea of Japan, also known in South Korea as the East Sea. Japan said it landed in its exclusive economic zone - a band of 200km around Japanese territory.

The test came hours after North Korea said nuclear talks with the US would resume.
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Post by Daehawk » Thu Oct 03, 2019 5:09 pm

Cant do anything it seems but its a shame to just let places like NK and Iran simply build up to nuclear weapons while you just stand twiddling thumbs. Sites should be bombed and taken out. So much shit both ways. Im glad Ill be dead and off this planet before it totally goes to shit..if Im lucky.
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Cant do anything it seems but its a shame to just let places like NK and Iran simply build up to nuclear weapons while you just stand twiddling thumbs. Sites should be bombed and taken out. So much shit both ways. Im glad Ill be dead and off this planet before it totally goes to shit..if Im lucky.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:44 pm

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The US has denied that its day of nuclear talks with North Korea ended in failure, insisting that "good discussions" were had.

Earlier, North Korea said the meeting had broken down, because the US brought "nothing to the negotiation table".

Officials from the two countries met in Sweden on Saturday, in the hope of breaking their stalemate.
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On Saturday evening, North Korea's top nuclear envoy Kim Myong Gil spoke to reporters outside the embassy, saying "the negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off".

"The US raised expectations by offering suggestions like a flexible approach, new method and creative solutions, but they have disappointed us greatly," he added.

He said "the US would not give up their old viewpoint and attitude".

However, shortly afterwards, the US State Department released a contradictory statement from spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

"The early comments from the DPRK [North Korean] delegation do not reflect the content or the spirit of today's 8.5-hour discussion," it read. "The US brought creative ideas and had good discussions with its DPRK counterparts."
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Isgrimnur wrote:
Sat Oct 05, 2019 10:44 pm
BBC
The US has denied that its day of nuclear talks with North Korea ended in failure, insisting that "good discussions" were had.

Earlier, North Korea said the meeting had broken down, because the US brought "nothing to the negotiation table".

Officials from the two countries met in Sweden on Saturday, in the hope of breaking their stalemate.
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On Saturday evening, North Korea's top nuclear envoy Kim Myong Gil spoke to reporters outside the embassy, saying "the negotiations have not fulfilled our expectation and finally broke off".

"The US raised expectations by offering suggestions like a flexible approach, new method and creative solutions, but they have disappointed us greatly," he added.

He said "the US would not give up their old viewpoint and attitude".

However, shortly afterwards, the US State Department released a contradictory statement from spokeswoman Morgan Ortagus.

"The early comments from the DPRK [North Korean] delegation do not reflect the content or the spirit of today's 8.5-hour discussion," it read. "The US brought creative ideas and had good discussions with its DPRK counterparts."
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It's bad that both statements show NK operating from a position of strength and the US being the weaker.
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Post by Holman » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:38 pm

It'll be fine when we trade SSBN's for proof that Warren is totally Juche.
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Post by hepcat » Sun Oct 06, 2019 8:41 pm

Kim really has made Trump his little puppy, hasn’t he? Roll over Trumpie..good boy Trumpie.
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Post by Kraken » Fri Dec 06, 2019 1:20 am

It's time for season 2 of Rocket Man and the Dotard!

Everything Trump does is about him and his reelection, so why is he reviving NK as an enemy? Foreign enemies are good? No, he has Iran for that. Setting up for another peacemaker show? Maybe. Plain old blundering? Probably.

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Post by Holman » Fri Dec 06, 2019 11:03 am

Kraken wrote:
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It's time for season 2 of Rocket Man and the Dotard!

Everything Trump does is about him and his reelection, so why is he reviving NK as an enemy? Foreign enemies are good? No, he has Iran for that. Setting up for another peacemaker show? Maybe. Plain old blundering? Probably.
Seems like Kim is running this one. Trump is just falling for it again.

NK is probably getting ready for another test launch, which they'll then play for another "summit" that shows Kim on co-equal ground with the US.
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Post by Isgrimnur » Sat Dec 07, 2019 10:29 pm

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Denuclearization is off the table in negotiations with the United States, North Korea's ambassador to the United Nations said in a statement Saturday.

In the statement, the ambassador, Kim Song, said the United States' pursuit of "sustained and substantial dialogue" was a "time-saving trick" to benefit a "domestic political agenda."

"We do not need to have lengthy talks with the US now and the denuclearization is already gone out of the negotiation table," he said.

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Re: The Dear Loser comes into his own. (North Korea)

Post by Kraken » Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:51 pm

Radio said something about NK having a Christmas present for the US, so I presume we're going back to brinksmanship unless Trump has some more gifts for Kim.

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