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Re: Ghost Recon Breakpoint - 10/4/2019

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Nice video from IGN that in less than three minutes encapsulates the new Immersive Mode changes.

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So, I didn't play this initially and just picked it up. I played for a few hours last night, made it through the intro with no issues and got to Erewhon. I took the first mission and headed to the north, and all hell broke loose. Drones keep seeing me from the sky, leading endless groups on enemies to me that I can't evade and I get killed. Over and over. Am I doing something very wrong?

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Go prone to avoid being spotted by the flyover drones.

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gbasden wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:32 pm
So, I didn't play this initially and just picked it up. I played for a few hours last night, made it through the intro with no issues and got to Erewhon. I took the first mission and headed to the north, and all hell broke loose. Drones keep seeing me from the sky, leading endless groups on enemies to me that I can't evade and I get killed. Over and over. Am I doing something very wrong?
You have to go prone and then use the "A" key, or what ever key it is for you, to get into camo mode. Once you go prone you should see the prompt on your screen for this action. Be aware that this prompt occurs only if you are lying on dirt or mud or grass or even snow. If you are on asphalt or concrete or rock or anything you can't roll around on and get "dirty" you won't be able to get camouflaged. If you don't get into camo mode you will likely be seen by the Azreal drone (the big jet thing), but if you do go into camo mode you will not be seen. You can practice this at any time just to be sure.
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So I put in five hours last night using the new Immersive Mode. I opted to go full Ghost with the default settings (click to enlarge):
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I really wished they had this mode at first release. By turning off Gear Level I wouldn't have wasted hours constantly swapping out guns, boots, gloves, etc just to keep tweaking gear score and small changes in attributes. Now all non-gun gear are cosmetic only, they have no gameplay effects. And while you can improve your gun with attachments, and a tiny bit with upgrades, there is no need to dump a lower level gun you love for higher level one just to bring up your gear score.

I went "Restricted" on Social and Bivouacs so unless I'm at Erewhon the only way to replenish my consumables is using Crafting. This make Crafting a lot more important than before. Also I don't have a garage at bivouacs so no getting a magical helicopter when you want one :ninja:. Instead you need to get what you need, guns included, from Sentinel, which makes it feel much more Ghost-like. The exception is if you have a blueprint for a gun, but I play by my own house rule that I can't swap out weapons unless I'm at Erewhon. This drove me to actually go to an enemy base so I could kill a sniper to get his gun. Very immersive :D

Let's see, what else... oh, I've gone to the Minimal Interface setting, which removes the minimap, loot markers and most importantly enemy indicators. So no magically seeing bad guys hunting you. OK, I have to admit, occasionally I've switched to the Light Interface setting, since with the Minimal you really can't see where the enemy bodies and loot are unless you wander through the tall grass :roll:. It is nice that you can change it at any time.

I've also implemented the Tactical Difficulty that limit the bandages I can carry, how quickly I get fatigued when I run and a few other things. Each of those is individually tweakable.

I'm very happy with what Ubisoft has done to give the game a whole new way to be played. Sadly I'm playing missions I've played before, so it isn't as much fun, but I'll probably avoid the Big Missions and just Ghost around doing side missions, at least for awhile.
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So I keep getting told about dismantling weapons. I'm also playing in immersive mode - is there a way or a need to dismantle weapons if you are playing that way? I've tried to do it with weapons I've found on enemies and can't figure out how, if it is a thing.

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gbasden wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:47 pm
So I keep getting told about dismantling weapons. I'm also playing in immersive mode - is there a way or a need to dismantle weapons if you are playing that way? I've tried to do it with weapons I've found on enemies and can't figure out how, if it is a thing.

Thanks for answering my noob questions!
I'm not sure if there is a way dismantle weapons in immersive mode. I was wondering about that myself, since you can still upgrade weapons and that requires the parts you get from dismantling them, but I haven't taken the time to look into it.
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Max Peck wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:04 pm
gbasden wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:47 pm
So I keep getting told about dismantling weapons. I'm also playing in immersive mode - is there a way or a need to dismantle weapons if you are playing that way? I've tried to do it with weapons I've found on enemies and can't figure out how, if it is a thing.

Thanks for answering my noob questions!
I'm not sure if there is a way dismantle weapons in immersive mode. I was wondering about that myself, since you can still upgrade weapons and that requires the parts you get from dismantling them, but I haven't taken the time to look into it.
Apparently you can't disassemble weapons in Immersive Mode. You will still get random parts from chests and destroyed drones. In five hours I've gotten a few parts that helped, but the actual upgrade value you get isn't that much anyway.

I think this is just one of the compromises they had to make to have both modes in the game. I imagine you can switch the setting Gear Level on, disassemble the weapon to get parts, then switch Gear Level back off again.
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jztemple2 wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:12 pm
gbasden wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:32 pm
So, I didn't play this initially and just picked it up. I played for a few hours last night, made it through the intro with no issues and got to Erewhon. I took the first mission and headed to the north, and all hell broke loose. Drones keep seeing me from the sky, leading endless groups on enemies to me that I can't evade and I get killed. Over and over. Am I doing something very wrong?
You have to go prone and then use the "A" key, or what ever key it is for you, to get into camo mode. Once you go prone you should see the prompt on your screen for this action. Be aware that this prompt occurs only if you are lying on dirt or mud or grass or even snow. If you are on asphalt or concrete or rock or anything you can't roll around on and get "dirty" you won't be able to get camouflaged. If you don't get into camo mode you will likely be seen by the Azreal drone (the big jet thing), but if you do go into camo mode you will not be seen. You can practice this at any time just to be sure.
It is called "Prone Camo" in the game, I just checked.

Regarding switching to Gear Level On, I just tried this and it works. Of course, I was only carrying two weapons :wink: so I had to unequip one of them, but then I can disassemble it. So this might be useful if you are next to one or more dropped weapons; switch to Gear Level On and *if* the game doesn't respawn you somewhere else (possible) you can then pick up the other weapons, disassemble them for parts, swap back to your preferred weapon and switch Gear Level Off. Somewhat clumsy, but maybe it will be patched later on to give an option to disassemble a weapon you find rather than swapping or equipping it. As I mentioned, the bonus you get it pretty small anyway.

Please, anyone who has questions, post them, I'm happy to try things out to see.

UPDATE: I forgot to mention, you can now Craft anytime, not just at Bivouacs.
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Yeah, I've got hundreds of some types of parts from playing through the game and my favorite weapons are fully upgraded anyway, but I was curious as to how it was supposed to work in the immersive mode. The obvious solution would be the ability to strip a looted weapon for parts instead of either leaving it or swapping it out to replace one of your current weapons, but didn't see an option for that.
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Max Peck wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:18 pm
Yeah, I've got hundreds of some types of parts from playing through the game and my favorite weapons are fully upgraded anyway, but I was curious as to how it was supposed to work in the immersive mode. The obvious solution would be the ability to strip a looted weapon for parts instead of either leaving it or swapping it out to replace one of your current weapons, but didn't see an option for that.
No, it doesn't appear that there is a way to disassemble a weapon. However, I just finished a side mission and I got an assault rifle part and several advanced weapon parts so that is apparently the way you can get these parts. I've also found them in crates too.

Something that I found worked for me, if you come up to a crate and the swap dialog shows it to be a weapon you don't want, swap it out anyway and then grab your original weapon back. Otherwise the crate will continue to show up on your map and on your HUD, if you are at any Interface setting above Minimalist. And if it is there after a while you may not remember if you checked it out already, if you are like me :roll:
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Hopefully some of these idiosyncrasies can be sorted out with additional quality of life enhancements down the road. I just hope that the devs aren't stuck in crunch mode while the real world is collapsing around them.
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I may give it a shot this weekend.

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"I know you left the game installed, but your access to it ended with your subscription. Here, have a 15.65 GB update!"

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Isgrimnur wrote:
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"I know you left the game installed, but your access to it ended with your subscription. Here, have a 15.65 GB update!"
It's quite an update, isn't it? :D

As of this afternoon I've put in ten hours of Immersive Mode and I'm still enjoying it. I'm playing the Episode 2 Deep State content so now I'm seeing new stuff. While I've had to up the interface setting from Minimalist to Light, I'm really trying to keep myself in the Ghost mindset. I've gotten to Level 8 on the Echelon class and now have switched to the Engineer Class and am at level 6 in that. Playing as a Ghost, I'm preferring the Echelon class buffs and challenges.
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Logged in, assaulted a base, died, then caught in a respawn-death loop four times before I Alt-F4ed.

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I would love it if they would make a mode that suits a solo player. I haven't played since the fall because it was the world against you and you can tell this game was built for the co-op experience.
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naednek wrote:
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I would love it if they would make a mode that suits a solo player. I haven't played since the fall because it was the world against you and you can tell this game was built for the co-op experience.
AI teammates are coming. It is totally playable solo though some fights are going to be rough without another distraction and the behemoths are seriously rough solo (pretty damn rough for a duo too).
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Logged in, assaulted a base, died, then caught in a respawn-death loop four times before I Alt-F4ed.
Ouch, enemies at the bivouac? I've never had that happen though I've only played like 30 minutes since the latest update. Just enough to get to Erewhon in immersive mode.
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naednek wrote:
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I would love it if they would make a mode that suits a solo player. I haven't played since the fall because it was the world against you and you can tell this game was built for the co-op experience.
I've put in 152 hours, all solo, and it hasn't been a problem. I completed all the side missions and Episode 1 main mission, now I've restarted in Immersive Mode with a new character and after getting in some basic missions I'm doing the Episode 2 missions. Turns out that turning off Gear Level means I don't have to keep checking to see if I'm facing enemies that are too high a level for me. Wolves are still tough though because, dammit, they know how to flank me :roll:
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coopasonic wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:10 pm
Isgrimnur wrote:
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Logged in, assaulted a base, died, then caught in a respawn-death loop four times before I Alt-F4ed.
Ouch, enemies at the bivouac? I've never had that happen though I've only played like 30 minutes since the latest update. Just enough to get to Erewhon in immersive mode.
No. Literally death as soon as I came out of the loading screen. The world didn't even have time to render.

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Isgrimnur wrote:
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Thu Mar 26, 2020 10:10 pm
Isgrimnur wrote:
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Logged in, assaulted a base, died, then caught in a respawn-death loop four times before I Alt-F4ed.
Ouch, enemies at the bivouac? I've never had that happen though I've only played like 30 minutes since the latest update. Just enough to get to Erewhon in immersive mode.
No. Literally death as soon as I came out of the loading screen. The world didn't even have time to render.
Is this still happening? Are you really far in that character? You can create a new one if the problem doesn't go away. I've never had that happen so I'm wondering if there is a problem with the installation of the game on your rig. Good luck!
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I've been playing the new Engineer Class and it was interesting, what with the armed drone like The Division and a reload tool, but to advance past level 7 I need to destroy a Behemoth. While I know that in the main campaign at one point I do have to kill one, having to do so just to advance in a class seems a bit much. I've switched back to the Echelon class as I'm learning to truly appreciate using a handgun :D
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I've decided a couple of things. One, I'm going to not display the requirements to get to the next class level once I've gotten to the first level. Trying to play in full Ghost roleplaying mode I shouldn't be trying to achieve things like "Kill 3 Sentinel soldiers on a Tuesday with a Slingshot" :D

Also, I'm going full Minimalist on the Interface setting. Even at the Light setting I'm getting too many clues, like ammo drops and chests. I thought I'd be struggling to not use too much ammo, but since even with the Light setting I'm hoovering up ammo everywhere by seeing the icons, small as they might be, I'm going to instead just go old school and search for bodies and chests. Whether I'll stick with it... :roll:
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Sheesh! :doh: I wonder if you are being spawned inside of terrain or something, it seems too fast for being shot. Were you able to start a new character or do some other workaround? I'm really feeling bad for you, this seems like such a sucky thing to happen. Have you posted to the GRB Player Support forum? That video alone will attract some interest :roll:

In my game, I've given up the Minimalist interface setting. I went through a whole mission in a cave then when I came out I found I had missed no less than five collectables :doh:. So I changed the Interface setting to Light, went back in and yup, I had simply walked by all five at some point during the mission :roll:
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jztemple2 wrote:
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Also, I'm going full Minimalist on the Interface setting. Even at the Light setting I'm getting too many clues, like ammo drops and chests. I thought I'd be struggling to not use too much ammo, but since even with the Light setting I'm hoovering up ammo everywhere by seeing the icons, small as they might be, I'm going to instead just go old school and search for bodies and chests. Whether I'll stick with it... :roll:
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In my game, I've given up the Minimalist interface setting. I went through a whole mission in a cave then when I came out I found I had missed no less than five collectables :doh:. So I changed the Interface setting to Light, went back in and yup, I had simply walked by all five at some point during the mission :roll:
You lasted 42 minutes on minimalist. Not bad. :D
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coopasonic wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 7:07 pm
jztemple2 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:43 pm
Also, I'm going full Minimalist on the Interface setting. Even at the Light setting I'm getting too many clues, like ammo drops and chests. I thought I'd be struggling to not use too much ammo, but since even with the Light setting I'm hoovering up ammo everywhere by seeing the icons, small as they might be, I'm going to instead just go old school and search for bodies and chests. Whether I'll stick with it... :roll:
jztemple2 wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:25 pm
In my game, I've given up the Minimalist interface setting. I went through a whole mission in a cave then when I came out I found I had missed no less than five collectables :doh:. So I changed the Interface setting to Light, went back in and yup, I had simply walked by all five at some point during the mission :roll:
You lasted 42 minutes on minimalist. Not bad. :D
What can I say? I'm weak :oops:
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