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We much prefer LOTRs timer to Mansion of Madness. MoM has a timer, but its hidden and you only get vague warnings like "the chanting is getting louder, the ritual is nearing completion". Too many of our games ended abruptly with a simple "uh oh, you took too long" message.

LOTRs timer is in the open, and barring a few surprises (a good thing so the timer is slightly unpredictable) and players doing things they shouldn't like revealing new terrain at the end of their turn, it's largely predictable.

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I didn't notice any kind of timer display in my first two scenarios of LotR:JiME. It just did what Descent has done to me in past games, which is throw more and more baddies at me until I finally died because I couldn't keep up. It did tell me in one scenario how to stop (or at least slow) the oncoming wave, but it still didn't tell me how turns I had in any way.

MoM does have a rather obscure timer system in that it has story elements and finales that trigger off an unseen countdown. That can be maddening, but it's a Lovecraft game so it makes perfect sense to me.
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Not a literal timer, but the Threat Bar. Large horizontal bar along the top of the app? At the start of a scenario it shows something like 0/40 (target number varies per scenario) and fills up per turn based on the number of players, unresolved Threat Tokens, etc. If you don't fulfill the scenario before the bar fills up, you lose. Doing or not doing certain things will sometimes add or subtract threat so it's not completely accurate.

Main difference being, in MoM you get a warning but have no idea if that means you have 2 turns left, or 5, or anything. LOTR you can look at the Threat Bar and generally be able to say "OK we have 2 turns to do XYZ".

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Ah, i forgot about the threat bar. So THAT'S what that does. Thanks!
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Gloomhaven has been sitting on top of my bookshelf for quite a while now. I had plans to run the campaign with my usual suspects but covid-19 has cancelled that. I am not travelling for work so I think I'm going to kick off a run through it tomorrow or over the weekend.

I've watched the gameplay and campaign videos online and I'm thinking I'll run it w/ 3 characters. Any tips / gotcha I should watch out for? Has anyone even gone this route? I've tried searching the thread but Gloomhaven gets talked about a lot and a lot of it is the digital edition. :)

FWIW I had read long ago about the horrific setup/teardown and bought the Broken Token Organizer and glued it together awhile back so I'm all set there. We'll see if that helps.

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I can only say to use the apps to help manage everything. It was like night and day for me to try and play. I'm normally anti-app but it feels like in this case it's necessary. Way too many bits to try and keep track of otherwise, IMHO. With the apps, you can focus on the game play and not have the 37 chits per character/monster/NPC get in the way.

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I still don’t understand the complaints about the set up and tear down times. Compared to most dungeon crawlers it’s not bad at all.
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I still don’t understand the complaints about the set up and tear down times. Compared to most dungeon crawlers it’s not bad at all.
It can't be worse than finding a dozen bat tokens when playing House on Haunted Hill. That said the organizer was super nice so I don't feel bad about the extreme cost/time spent on it.

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Oh don’t get me wrong. I love a good organizer. You won’t hear me saying it was a bad buy.
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malchior wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:26 pm
Gloomhaven has been sitting on top of my bookshelf for quite a while now. I had plans to run the campaign with my usual suspects but covid-19 has cancelled that. I am not travelling for work so I think I'm going to kick off a run through it tomorrow or over the weekend.

I've watched the gameplay and campaign videos online and I'm thinking I'll run it w/ 3 characters. Any tips / gotcha I should watch out for? Has anyone even gone this route? I've tried searching the thread but Gloomhaven gets talked about a lot and a lot of it is the digital edition. :)

FWIW I had read long ago about the horrific setup/teardown and bought the Broken Token Organizer and glued it together awhile back so I'm all set there. We'll see if that helps.
I've only played Gloomhaven solo, and I had a difficult time with 3 characters at first. I played with 2 characters until I felt I had the basics down, then expanded to 3 characters (and occasionally 4). I still played with 2 from time to time, when I wanted to give my brain a bit of a rest. Nothing is particularly difficult, but there's a LOT that pulls you focus when you play 3 or 4 characters. Luckily, the game easily adapts to playing whatever number you feel like on any given day.

I also highly recommend some of the recommended apps, as they speed up play tremendously. Just the fact an app kept track of wounds on monsters was a godsend, as I grew terribly weary of moving wound tokens around on the many critters I had to face.
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malchior wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:26 pm
Gloomhaven has been sitting on top of my bookshelf for quite a while now. I had plans to run the campaign with my usual suspects but covid-19 has cancelled that. I am not travelling for work so I think I'm going to kick off a run through it tomorrow or over the weekend.

I've watched the gameplay and campaign videos online and I'm thinking I'll run it w/ 3 characters. Any tips / gotcha I should watch out for? Has anyone even gone this route? I've tried searching the thread but Gloomhaven gets talked about a lot and a lot of it is the digital edition. :)

FWIW I had read long ago about the horrific setup/teardown and bought the Broken Token Organizer and glued it together awhile back so I'm all set there. We'll see if that helps.
For the beginning, I recommend not using the solo difficulty bump. My game is in transit to my new state of residence, so I can't remember exactly what it's called. There's enough to keep track of as is.

FWIW I didn't use any of the apps. I liked moving the pieces around. It makes it actually feel like a board game. That said, I may switch to using the apps when I get it laid out at my new house.

Also, try to find a table where you can leave it set up if needed. I used a standard sized card table and a folding TV tray table. It was enough, but barely.

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Fishbelly wrote:
Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:26 pm
I've only played Gloomhaven solo, and I had a difficult time with 3 characters at first. I played with 2 characters until I felt I had the basics down, then expanded to 3 characters (and occasionally 4). I still played with 2 from time to time, when I wanted to give my brain a bit of a rest. Nothing is particularly difficult, but there's a LOT that pulls you focus when you play 3 or 4 characters. Luckily, the game easily adapts to playing whatever number you feel like on any give day.
Gotcha - that tracks. I saw (via video) that the game scales the scenario out by number of players.
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FWIW I didn't use any of the apps. I liked moving the pieces around. It makes it actually feel like a board game. That said, I may switch to using the apps when I get it laid out at my new house.
My plan is to use the app after I get a few games in. I want to understand how the mechanics work and no better way than to do the 'calculations' by hand. When it gets annoying I'll switch.
Also, try to find a table where you can leave it set up if needed. I used a standard sized card table and a folding TV tray table. It was enough, but barely.
I plunked down cash on a geek chiq Hoplite years ago so that's the plan. It's coffee table height right now (pending some custom furniture lifts coming this weekend) but I can set it up and seal up the table top to keep the cats away.

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I ended up playing my first game - it probably took a lot longer than it should have and I made mistakes but sorted them out. For instance, I thought I was getting too much gold and after a re-read on looting I was. You don't pick them up like 'Sonic the Hedgehog'. :lol: I cut that down significantly.

I get why people rave about it. It's simple to run once you get the hang of it but hard to optimize. I went Brute/Spellweaver and the Brute was down to next to nothing with one guy left and I had him make a desperate run to open the Treasure Tile while the Spellweaver blasted him. I ended up playing at the recommended difficulty for the scenario despite the advice above. But only for one reason, the road event provided me a fairly fortuitous item that changed my outlook on it.
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So on past Target runs I've been seeing Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion on the shelves. Even held it in my hands. I actually have Gloomhaven but after trying to organize the parts I just showed it aside. I'm going to Target again and between now and my arrival feel free to convince or discourage me from buying it...if I even see it of course.

Estimated arrival time is 20 minutes.
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$iljanus wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:36 am
So on past Target runs I've been seeing Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion on the shelves. Even held it in my hands. I actually have Gloomhaven but after trying to organize the parts I just showed it aside. I'm going to Target again and between now and my arrival feel free to convince or discourage me from buying it...if I even see it of course.

Estimated arrival time is 20 minutes.
Lol. FWIW with the Broken Token organizer the time to go from boxed to ready for scenario set up was 2 minutes (I timed it). I didn't time scenario set up but it wasn't more than another 10 minutes. That was unboxing the tuck boxes with the monsters, shuffling cards, building the map, etc.

On another note, scenario 2 is a real bitch. I didn't even come close to beating it but I had a *lot* of bad beat attack modifier draws. Like got the big bad to 1 HP left and then drew a curse card on the killing blow.
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He then threw open another door and unleashed even more baddies on me and that was all she wrote.
Back to town for some re-supply I suppose before taking a 2nd whack at it.

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$iljanus wrote:
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Estimated arrival time is 20 minutes.
Bird in hand has value, but if for some reason it's OOS at your local Target, GameNerdz is offering it for $39.99 with free shipping if you use the coupon code SAVE20. Link here.

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The board game shelves had all sorts of interesting games. D&D starter sets, not one but two different Bob Ross games, the Villianous games, that Pan Am game that I think Lorini mentioned which looks cool and appeals to my memories of actually flying Pan Am, Top Gun, The Shining, Jaws, Pandemic but alas no Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion.

Like the Pon Farr however the feverish desire for the game has passed and instead I spent a bunch of cash on really boring domestic items. But the cellar will be more organized than my Gloomhaven game by the end of the weekend!
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The board game shelves had all sorts of interesting games. D&D starter sets, not one but two different Bob Ross games, the Villianous games, that Pan Am game that I think Lorini mentioned which looks cool and appeals to my memories of actually flying Pan Am, Top Gun, The Shining, Jaws, Pandemic but alas no Gloomhaven Jaws of the Lion.

Like the Pon Farr however the feverish desire for the game has passed and instead I spent a bunch of cash on really boring domestic items. But the cellar will be more organized than my Gloomhaven game by the end of the weekend!
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I hadn't heard of it that Bob Ross game but it looks really intriguing. I could see putting on an episode in the background and have a happy little game.

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I found PANDEMIC: RAPID RESPONSE on the clearance shelf at Target today for $12 so I grabbed it. I know it's not the best-reviewed of the Pandemic titles, but for the price I figured it was worth throwing in the collection. I'm not a big-fan of real-time games as they stress me out, but I'm such a fan of the series that I have a rule to pick up any Pandemic title I don't own whenever I see it at a historic low.

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$iljanus wrote:
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Like the Pon Farr however the feverish desire for the game has passed and instead I spent a bunch of cash on really boring domestic items.
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Played another neat little solo puzzler tonight in a GenCon demo called UNDER FALLING SKIES.

Alien ships are coming down from the top of a 5-column board Galaga/Space Invaders style, and you're tasked with completing a research track before 1) your base takes too much damage or 2) the alien mothership descends all the way down.

Each turn you roll 5 6-sided dice, 3 gray and 2 white. You then place these dice on action spots in your base which will trigger different things at the end of the turn. Orange spots scramble fighter jets, which will blow up ships that have reached explosion spaces on the board, as long as you have dice in those spots equal to or above the value of the explosion. Green spots generate research points which move the research tracker up and allow you to win the game. And yellow spots generate power, which is used to pay the cost of scrambling jets or generating research. A final "placeholder" spot at the top of your base gives you no actions, but does reduce the number of spaces an alien ship will move by 1.

Only one die can be placed per column, and placing a die will automatically move the alien ship in its column down the same value as the die. One other catch - your base is underground, and at the beginning of the game only a few action "rooms" are available. To unlock more rooms, you'll also have to move your digger through the base excavating more spots. This also costs a die and energy.

The aspect of the game I really enjoyed is that die placement not only affects what you do each turn, but also what the enemy does. So every placement is a balancing act of maximizing your opportunity while simultaneously minimizing the enemy's opportunity. In addition, the order you place the dice can also be crucial. White dice ALWAYS trigger a re-roll of all remaining dice. So you'll have to decide when you can afford to take a chance on getting new values on your remaining dice pool.

There are lots of other things going on here that I didn't touch on - the mothership descends a row every round, which can trigger effects like causing cave-ins (which move your digger backwards), energy loss, or even spawn extra alien ships. There are also spaces on the board which, if an alien ship enters, may cause it to switch columns, or trigger the mothership to descend a row immediately.

I REALLY enjoyed this one but it is quite a brain burner and SUPER puzzly. However, I don't mind my solo games being puzzly as I enjoy the challenge. The game releases in Q4 to retail, and the guy said it would be in all the big box stores (Amazon, B&N, etc.) He also mentioned that the retail game will have a campaign mode, and ships with multiple reversible tiles so you'll get different base configurations, different research tracks, different alien ship boards, etc. Looked like a lot of replayability. Neat game and I'll definitely be adding it to my wish list later this year.

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hepcat wrote:
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Like the Pon Farr however the feverish desire for the game has passed and instead I spent a bunch of cash on really boring domestic items.
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YellowKing wrote:
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Played another neat little solo puzzler tonight in a GenCon demo called UNDER FALLING SKIES.
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I REALLY enjoyed this one but it is quite a brain burner and SUPER puzzly. However, I don't mind my solo games being puzzly as I enjoy the challenge. The game releases in Q4 to retail, and the guy said it would be in all the big box stores (Amazon, B&N, etc.) He also mentioned that the retail game will have a campaign mode, and ships with multiple reversible tiles so you'll get different base configurations, different research tracks, different alien ship boards, etc. Looked like a lot of replayability. Neat game and I'll definitely be adding it to my wish list later this year.
Thanks for the impressions. Just recently I saw it getting some praise in a solo boardgaming subreddit as well. Sounds overly puzzly for my personal tastes, but I'll have to keep an eye on it.

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YellowKing wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:16 pm
Played another neat little solo puzzler tonight in a GenCon demo called UNDER FALLING SKIES.
Saw it on BGG the other day. It did look pretty cool. I wishlisted it to remind me when it comes out.

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